errrr is this real ?????

I think this might be the photo he's refering to.

www.crowdedskies.com...

Yes, you are right, and I am well aware and do not expect to just be believed either. Nobody should just believe something just because they hear it no matter what it is. But we have to keep sharing information and learning about it anyway.

It took time and experience for my husband and I to trust our alien contacts. We know them very well and have worked close with them for many years. In all our experience with them, nothing they have showed us or told us has ever come out to be harmful, misleading or false.

I suggest to others who have experiences to work within their own relationship with their contacts to build trust, and not to listen to what others say against them. People should always learn things for themselves.

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EarthSister, i'd be interested in hearing your story if you wish to share it. I'd also like your opinion on something i read a few mths ago. Thankyou


www.v-j-enterprises.com...

Sapphire

>>EarthSister, i'd be interested in hearing your story if you wish to share it. I'd also like your opinion on something i read a few mths ago. Thankyou <<

You can look at my website, addy in my sig, and I will answer any questions you have that I can. Chapter One of my first manuscript is on the Journals page.

I can review whatever information you heard and tell you what I can about it. If you have a web site for it that would be helpful.

Oh I see it. I will get back to you.

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Sapphire

>>EarthSister, i'd be interested in hearing your story if you wish to share it. I'd also like your opinion on something i read a few mths ago. Thankyou


www.v-j-enterprises.com... <<

Everything in this page is completely fabricated.

When humans experience anything that is beyond their understanding, we come up with ways to classify the information. You can read a normal pattern when humans do this. In other words, when humans are mistaken about something real, there is a normal way they sound. Or a normal range of thought and even belief.

The page I just read is not within a normal range at all. It is not mistaken. It is entirely fabricated and not even in an attempt to sound like what might be recognized as real by those who have true knowledge of other life from other life.

Thankyou for your response, about to take a look at your site now.

Next Questions would be:

Who are the Collective Blue? [just found your link nm ty]

What is God to You/Your Alien Contacts?




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Earth sister, I've looked at your site and this guys site and it seems to me that just because he states a different view, for you to say it is a fabrication makes no sense to me.

How is it that only your experiences are true and not this persons.

Your experience dictate your reality. It may be that you both are fabricating but it can't be that you are right and he is wrong.

His lack of evidence and your lack of evidence seem to be about the same.

If I am in contact with non reptile type aliens who contradict what yours are telling you, which one of us is the liar?

both?

Neither?

When you first started experiencing these things did you seek out a psychiatrist or psychologist? Or did you take everything these non-corporal visitors tell you at face value.

Spiderj

Sapphire

>>Who are the Collective Blue?<<

They are the race of people who live inside of Mars.

>>What is God to You/Your Alien Contacts? <<

God is the creator of all life in the known universes-- not a person like all of us people who live and die on our worlds, but the supreme spirit.

I see how both of us would be the same to you. We are only the same "to you in your own mind" because you do not know otherwise. However, I know because of my lifelong, extensive personal experience with the alien races. Everything I know about the alien races, I learn from the alien races. I do not collect material from any other source. My motivation is truth. This man may believe what he is saying in some way, but he did not even experience anything, but collected stories from others. That should tell you something important even if you still don't know what to believe. You know what is better to think about.



To other people who do not know anything about the subject, or who have heard all kinds of different conflicting material, you and I would be the same to them in their minds. They would have nothing to go on or nothing true to go on.

If you are in contact with any alien race that visits Earth, just ask them what you want to know and they will not contradict what I am telling you. You might get different information or understand it differently in your own perception. That is normal, such as when two people witness an event and then later tell the story and there are differences. If you see it again, you recall much more clearly. The more experience and higher degree of communication you have, the more exact and further you can know what is actual of what others claim. The more honest you are, the better of a reliable representative you are for the information and the more information the aliens will trust you with, so the more personal, firsthand knowledge and experience you will have.

Most people who have alien experiences only recall a small amount and do not get the great deal of teaching that I get from the aliens. Most people who have alien contact (or don't but say they do) still read an awful lot of bogus material and then believe and claim those things about the alien races for themselves. The more the liars talk and claim things, just like with any subject, the more apparent their lies are to people who really know the nature of the subject.

So in any case, you have to always consider the source and the intention. When you start to really learn about the aliens themselves, you start to get a good idea on your own of when somebody is fabricating the wild stories like are on that man's website. When you learn definite basic facts about alien life that do not change, you will be tipped off when people are not honest. The more you know, the easier it is to tell. These kinds of bogus stories sound a lot the same in structure, as well as the personalities of these people are a lot the same. Most people who claim to have experiences sound just like all the books, but nothing like the aliens.

This isnt a subject of evidence but rather a subject of confidence. If I was confident in you and trusted you I wouldnt need evidence. However since I dont, asking questions not disproving answers would be the best way to achieve confidence.

So a question, how do these "aliens" adapt to the earths unique enviroment? And, how do they travel?
Be specific.

The alien races do not adapt to any other environment, but they use technologies and natural abilities to in affect be in the same place at the same time as we are, and/or to get us to the same place at the same time they are.

They travel the way we travel, but faster and with different energies and methods of using them. They also travel greater distances with the additional use of dimensional technologies, which brings their speed (travel time) to many times greater than the speed of light. That is because other dimensions have different values of time.

Don't forget I am not a physicist so I can't explain this too much better in scientific terms.

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Do they have huge "star wars" like spaceships or the flying saucer kind?

So basically what you are saying Earthsister is that if I disagree with you I am ill informed and mis-lead.

Just because someone collects stories does not mean their information is less factual.

The statemenst you make are typical of people in the UFO field, as someone who has been studying the paranormal for going on 25 years I have to say that I am unfortunately used to this.

The main fact is, it does not matter if I have or have not been in contact with alien species. I could be a life long experiencer or I may not, the fact is you do not know.

You cannot say that just because someone disagrees with you that they are not informed. I've been around long enough to know that the burden of proof does not lay with me but with those who claim to know the truth.




I know the answer to my question of "How do you know this?" will be because that is what the aliens told you.

What you state is not fact, you have no way to back up your claims. If I don't believe then you feel justified in saying that there is something wrong with me or I am ill informed.

None, and I mean none of us truly know what is going on. By it's very nature this is an almost impossible task.

You do not do yourself a favor by stating opinion based on non-physical interaction with aliens who may or may not exist; as fact.

The fact is you do not know for certain whether anything lives under the surface of mars because you have never been there.

When I was a child my parents told me that Santa Claus, the tooth Fairy and the easter bunny were real, as I got older I realized this was not true because I experienced the truth for myself.

My parents meant no harm and they also didn't try to sell me a video to explain their point of view, not that I would have bought one from them.

The fact that you did not go to a group other than MUFON to validate your experience says a lot. How do you know that you are not suffering from a mental disorder or even worse (and heaven for bid) a tumor of some sort if you have not allowed yourself to get checked out.

A regular physical will not cover this. You must tell the doctor what you are experiencing.

I just think you will always have an excuse as to why your pov is true and someone elses is not.

that's it for now.

Spiderj

Both. They travel here in large crafts that they can live in while they are here. Each representative travels in their own crafts with their own crews. They all have smaller crafts that are used to shuttle down closer to the surface of our planet.

The largest craft here is the organization's community craft with quarters for each of the visiting races. It is a rectangle 2.6 miles x .52 miles.

Alien crafts are all shapes and sizes and designs.

RIght. Do you know of any real photos of
UFOs you can give a link to?

i dont know.....sounds pretty convinving but i still have my doubts. it's not like the government is just gonna give us this info. how the hell did this guy get it?!?!?!

I did not say that.



Of course it does.



No. If you do not have alien experiences, you are not studing the aliens. If you are studing the paranormal by collecting information, you are studying the humans.



Are you asking me to find out for you?



I am not talking about proof. I am talking about truth and how to recognize it. I am saying, the more you experience, the more you know yourself and the easier it is to tell when somebody else is lying or mistaken. You learn to see how it is they come up with the ideas they do.





I know this because that is what many of the aliens have told me and in different conversations about different things. I have no reason not to believe it, coming from them. I do not expect you to believe it coming from me. I would not believe it coming from you. I might say, well that might be true, but I would not just believe it from you. I would go and ask my aliens about it and see what they say.



I don't think there is anything wrong with you at all. I might just experience and know more than you do with the aliens. What I say is fact. A fact is a fact already, whether it is ever proven or not. Humans don't get to flip the switch up and down on the existence of other life in the universe being real or not real but what they believe. lol. If I have an opinion on something, I say that it's my opinion, and when I don't know the answer to something I say I don't know.



A few of us have a very good idea. Most importantly, a few have a true idea, as short as it might be compared to all the things the advanced races know about nature and life and the universe.



My experiences are also physical. When something happens that I am not sure enough of, I ask them to clarify it, or for more information to give me a broader view which often helps me further understand what I already know.



I know the aliens who are from Mars. I meet with them and talk with them. My husband and I have been to Mars. It's awesome inside. It's all carved out into cities with roadways and buildings and homes, rivers and parks.



You should always think for yourself.



Humans can't validate the aliens yet unless they have experiences together. A human group or doctor could not help me except to support me medically, and they do. I am in very good health mentally and physically. I have met thousands of other alien experiencers, and hundreds of investigators and scientists. I am in no lack of professionals should I need one for anything.

It is you who does not know that I am not suffering from an illness. I have been to doctors for regular physicals. My doctors know about my alien experiences.



Many other people are honest and telling about their experiences with alien life. Not everybody is having the same kind of experiences or amount of experiences or with the number of different alien races that my husband and I are.

If you mean to say that I will never deny what I know to be the truth from my own experiences, you are right. If you mean to say that I will never choose guidance about the aliens from humans over guidance from my alien contacts, you are right again.

Do you mean me?

If so, no.

I have a question for Earthsister. You stated that you have been to Mars. Are you talking physically or more mentally? Did you see any surface features that look like ruins or can you describe any bases etc. that you saw? What do the blue aliens on Mars look like? Just curious.

Another question, do you believe some aliens are abducting humans and doing experiments on them? Have any taken humans gone out of control and attacked the aliens?

Out of body, which is naturally or spiritually.



The surface of Mars is brown up close, rough and barren. The entrances to below are subtle or hidden.

I have a drawing of The Blue on my website.



No alien races are abducting any humans or conducting any experiments. The aliens know exactly what they are doing. They always take every opportunity they have to learn as much as they can about us, but they do not take us for that purpose.

I have not heard any specific instances from alien life, where a human attacked an alien person during a meeting. But I am told by the aliens that they prevent it, and I have seen how they do that. And I understand, knowing humans and our emotions and fears, that many of us would if we felt we needed to. It is natural to feel that need, the same as it is natural to assume we are abducted when we find ourselves on a craft, or remember it from a prior time, especially if we read about it somewhere or everywhere.

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