Originally posted by theendisnear69
Cops. Never met a good one
No wonder you get thrown down. You have an attitude and perspective begging for trouble.
I've been around cops all my life. I'm not a saint; there's a long list of the trouble I gotten myself into. But, as I said, I got myself into
all of it w/o help from "bad" cops.
Here's the key to these situations:
Police only need "reasonable suspicion" to believe a crime has been or is about to be committed to stop you, and ask for id. Our Courts have given
them this right. They can even conduct a "pat down" for safety. You can't win that one.
Remember, they have the guns and radios. You will lose if you challenge them. Instead, be cooperative. Ask them what is wrong in your neighborhood
that this is happening.
Sadly, same is true for busstops. There have been a series of busstop robberies just in the past 10 days in some parts of my city. Police are
actively patrolling them now. Cooperate, and maybe you'll find there really is something going on for cops to be suspicious. Then, you can take
whatever precautions you need to protect yourself, family, property. In Texas, that includes carrying a gun.
In your car, it's a different story. Police must have "probable cause" to arrest
before they can search you or your
vehicle/contents. Almost every cop who thinks he can get away with it will ask, "You mind if I look in the car?" Almost every driver, already
pissed or tense, will stammer, "Uh, okay."
If you give permission, you have given "consent to search." Again, thank our Courts.
The 4th Am. provides for freedom from "unreasonable search and seizure" for you and your stuff.
Again, cooperate. The cop has stopped you. He expects one or both of 2 things: you are pissed, and/or you are an armed criminal.
WAIT for him to come to you and tell you what to do. DO NOT reach for ANYTHING! 9 times out of 10, he wants to give you a ticket and get the hell
out out there. Why give him more to do? You are already stopped; get it over with. Cooperate.
If you are searched without permission and not incident to arrest, you have a civil rights claim. You can't bring it on the street, so don't try or
play your hand. Wait 'til you get home. There are attorneys and organizations slobbering on themselves (think ACLU) to do this for you.
Same goes for your home. If they do not have a warrant, they can't come in. UNLESS you (or someone else)invite(s) them. If you agree, see above.
If they search w/o arrest or warrant, see above again.
In many states, it is unlawful to consume alcohol or be intoxicated "in public." Outside, in your front yard is considered in most cities to be"in
public." Do one or the other, and you are inviting a neighbor or a cop to invite themselves to your party.
You don't have to fear cops. You have remedies.
If you and your neighbors are being harassed, select a spokesman, and approach the attorneys/orgs. mentioned above.
You don't need tapes, videos, or pictures. You have live witnesses and several police reports. Police dispatchers will provide you for $1 or so per
page a list of the calls to a street or address over any given period of time.
I've seen 'em and gotten 'em and used 'em. Verrrry Helpful. (You'll also see what's really going on in your neighborhood!)
You are not defenseless. There are remedies. But, an ounce of prevention... . Why pick a fight you can't win? Choose your 'battles'