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Military versus diplomatic responses to UFOs

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posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 05:15 PM
by Michael Salla, Ph.D., Honolulu Exopolitics Examiner

Capt. Thomas Mantell Intercepting UFO: Photo:WikimediaThe existence of UFOs has long been denied to be a national security concern by spokespersons of the U.S. military and its major allies. For example, a U.S. Air Force fact sheet updated in 2003 says: “No UFO reported, investigated and evaluated by the Air Force was ever an indication of threat to our national security.” Such a claim lacks credibility as evidence continues to emerge of secret shoot down orders issued to Air Force pilots who engage with UFOs.

The latest evidence comes from Nick Pope, a retired 22 years civil servant for Britain’s Ministry of Defense (MoD) who for three years headed its UFO desk. Pope has for the first time revealed that in the early 1980s, a highly classified directive had been issued for shooting down UFOs:

We know of cases where the order has been given to shoot down -- with little effect to the UFO.

Pope further revealed that the rules of engagement had been drawn up after dozens of encounters, and the attacks on UFOs were “not automatic but happen when something in our airspace is deemed to be a threat.”

Video: Nick Pope on RAF Shoot Down Orders

Pope’s revelation is consistent with the testimony of Milton Torres, a former USAF pilot, who was given shoot down orders by his superiors when he engaged with a UFO over British airspace on May 20, 1957. In October 2008, the British National Archives released his report which had been sent to British Military authorities at the time of the incident. Torres revealed how he was instructed by radio to intercept the UFO, “I then received the order to fire a full salvo of rockets at the UFO!” He revealed that the UFO “had the proportions of a flying aircraft carrier!” Just before he released his full salvo of 24 rockets, the UFO broke his radar lock and rapidly moved away.

British researcher Timothy Good, in Need to Know, revealed more cases where UFOs were actively targeted by different national Air Forces. He revealed that such orders were highly classified and U.S. military personnel were warned with the sternest consequences terms not to reveal what had occurred.

Pope’s and Torres testimonies point to secret coordination between the U.S. and its major allies in developing military responses to UFOs flying over national air space. Their testimonies reveal that UFOs are considered a national security threat by the U.S. and U.K. Air Forces whose pilots have received secret rules of engagement to shoot down UFOs. Given the USAF’s public position that UFOs are not a national security threat, then classified shoot down orders point to a major inconsistency between their actual and stated public position on UFOs.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has publicly questioned the merits of movie depictions of UFOs with an extraterrestrial origin as a national security threat. Her private efforts to learn about UFOs and subsequent public statements suggest that Clinton is interested in promoting diplomatic relations with extraterrestrial life. Furthermore, President Obama during his first full day of office on January 21announced that his administration “is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government.”

If President Obama and Secretary Clinton follow through on their respective public statements, then a first step to more Open Government would be to follow the British lead and declassify UFO documents. These will clearly reveal how U.S. and allied military forces have considered UFOs to be a national security threat. An informed public debate can then occur over whether a military or diplomatic response to UFOs violating national airspace is a proper response by national security authorities.

posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 05:24 PM
I can only hope that President Obama stays true to his statement of being more open to the public. A lot of citizens will try to disprove the existence of UFOs no matter how much evidence is revealed. The Government needs to just admit everything they know, so the nation can move forward on this issue. Thanks for the read, I enjoyed it.

posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 10:54 AM
They won't release anything. And this coming "disclosure" will never happen. You're all just grasping at straws here. I believe in UFO's, I believe there's a cover-up, but most likely nothing will ever come of anything.

posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 12:17 PM
The bigger question is why would the military pursue a military response vs. a diplomatic one...

Perhaps they know something more about their agenda than we do?

I'd imagine that a defensive posture is best when you don't know that agenda...but to order an attack, seems to imply an existing knowledge of a hostile intent... That's perhaps the bigger thing to take away from this...the military acknowledgement of the intruder as a hostile intent....

posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 12:22 PM
Lets not play dumb here...if these aliens in their extremely advanced craft were hostile, we would not be here. They would have taken care of OUR hostile nature a LONG time ago.


posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 12:52 PM
I have to agree with RFburns on this one. For as long as they have been around us if they wanted us gone they would have done it already. If we have nukes god knows what they have. I can't say thier intentions are good though. I've heard many reports on USAF and Brits being ordered to fire on the UFOs, however I've heard zero reports on the UFO firing back.

posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 03:06 PM

Lets not play dumb here...if these aliens in their extremely advanced craft were hostile, we would not be here. They would have taken care of OUR hostile nature a LONG time ago.

Maybe, maybe not... Without knowing details about their tech, we can't automatically assume some kind of godlike defensive capabilities... Just because they have advanced drives doesn't necessarily mean they have weapons that are equally as advanced. Besides, a caveman with a rock can still sneak up a soldier armed with the latest gear, and the end result is the same... The logistics may not allow them to wage war here for all we even our "primitive" weapons can keep them in check....Who can say for sure...???

posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 10:46 PM
Star for you RFBurns
I agree completely.

We are the hostile race, perhaps the governments don't wish to admit this, maybe they don't want to admit that they are the ones who engaged the visitors in attack mode, hence the super secrecy and cover up.

Let's hope that Obama's promise for transparency if fulfilled.

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