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Ahmadinejad says Obama must apologise to the Iranian people for Bush

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posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 06:55 AM

Ahmadinejad says Obama must apologise to the Iranian people for Bush

President Ahmadinejad of Iran has adopted a hardline stance in response to diplomatic overtures from the Obama Administration, insisting today that the US President needed to show a "fundamental” change in policy if he wants to improve relations with Iran.

Reacting to President Obama's call for the Iranians to "unclench their fist", Mr Ahmadinejad called for the United States to apologise to the Iranian people "and try to repair their past bad acts and the crimes they committed against Iran".

“We welcome change but on condition that change is fundamental and on the right track,” Mr Ahmadinejad told a rally in western Iran broadcast live on state television.

“When they say ’we want to make changes’, change can happen in two ways. First is a fundamental and effective change... The second ... is a change of tactics. It is very clear that, if the meaning of change is the second one, this will soon be revealed."
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posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 06:55 AM
Should I be surprised if Obama bows down to this man and the crazy mulahs in the future. Should I be surprised if they went to the Haj together either after becoming best friends.

Here's more of the article;

He added: “If someone wants to talk with us in the language that (President) Bush used ... even if he uses new words, our response will be the same that we gave to Bush during the past years."

The new Administration has said that Mr Obama will be breaking from his predecessor by pursuing direct talks with Tehran, while threatening to increase diplomatic pressure if it refuses to accept a UN Security Council demand to halt its disputed nuclear work.

In an interview on Monday with al-Arabiya television - his first with any major network since becoming president, Mr Obama promised to lay a framework for his policy towards Iran.

“As I said in my inauguration speech, if countries like Iran are willing to unclench their fist, they will find an extended hand from us," he said. “It is very important for us to make sure that we are using all the tools of US power, including diplomacy, in our relationship with Iran."

Also on Monday, Washington’s UN Ambassador, Susan Rice, pledged “direct” support to Tehran if it halts the nuclear programme.

The five permanent members of the UN Security Council – Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States – plus Germany have offered Tehran economic and energy incentives in exchange for halting its uranium enrichment programme. But Tehran is pressing on with the work, insisting that its nuclear programme is peaceful and solely geared toward electricity generation.

As proof of the desire for change, Mr Ahmadinejad said that the US should withdraw its troops from conflict zones around the world and “stop supporting the Zionists, outlaws and criminals."
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posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 07:11 AM
hmm well, to me this sounds like a power play. I don't see Iran changing anything soon. For those who follow politics closely it will be interesting to see what happens.

posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 07:22 AM
This script is so transparent it's laughable:

Get a black man in to the White House.

Make sure he is not tarnishing all Muslims with the terrorist brush.

Let him start forging relations with previous enemies.

Ooops...another massive terrorist attack on US soil/people.

I guess that's the last time we let a crazy, black, muslim-sympathising looney liberal in to the White House.

Let's get the big Military boys back in - we got any more Bush's we stick in power?

Martial Law anyone?

(For the record: Im happy with Obama, delighted that a black man is in the White House and ecstatic that the new President of the US does not think that Muslim=Terrorist!)

[edit on 28/1/2009 by skibtz]

posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 07:27 AM
Well that would have to be the most absurd thing ive ever heard.
How can Obama apologize for someone else?
And why would he need to apologize to Iran, anyway?

posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 07:29 AM
More loud mouth postering by the meglomaniac who likes to stomp his feet and say 'look at me dangit ... LOOK AT ME .. and if you don't pay attention to me I'll threaten someone just so you have to look at me ... I'm important ... really I am ... look at me ... I can demand the POTUS bow down to me ... '

posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 07:45 AM
So, will Ahmadinejad then also apologize to the U.S. for the past things iran has done to us? Such as the embassy takeover and holding the hostages for 444 days and for supplying the terrorists in iraq, lebanon and gaza with weapons and training.

Maybe he will also apologize to the world for trying to build nuclear weapons.

Yes, we welcome change from iran. But it has to be fundamental ...

[edit on 1/28/2009 by centurion1211]

posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 07:50 AM
reply to post by RedGolem

I agree,

Ahmadinejad doesnt want to be seen as if he's willing to just shake hands with the Americans, at the same time he knows full well Obama will not apologise for Bush, not becuase he backs him, but because there is that untold rule in the whitehouse you never dog on the man before you.

This is not the answer Obama, or people who hope want to hear, because it shows Iran really are willing to ignore what anyone says to get their way.

God forbin should Obama be a man of his word.

posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 07:53 AM
Ahmadinejad needs a boogyman. Bush fit the bill for him.

Now that Obama is trying to make some sort of peace, he might lose that boogyman he's used to try to keep his people in check.

Better to keep Obama the "enemy".

posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 08:07 AM


Anyone taking bets on how long it'll be before Iran's enrichment facilities have a sudden catastrophic "accident"?

I hear they're not too careful over there.

[edit on 28-1-2009 by lernmore]

posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 08:29 AM
All world leaders should be friends and listen to eachother. Practice tolerance and influence eachother. This whole war thing is getting old and it's not doing any good. It just brings more stubborness to all nations.
It breed's more terrorismn and oposal to "way of life" and makes people crazy. It's not just the soldiers going crazy. All over the planet people decide to take their lives, unhappy with the world. And life.

It might feel like your "losing face" or look weak if Obama does decide to apologize for Bush, but seriously it's in the right ethics. Why shouldn't he apologise for Bush seeing that this is all the nation of Iran is asking ? What Bush has done to Iran is highly ignorant and paranoid. It's crazy.
Having this attitude towards a nation you're supposed to be working together with is way more dangerous than just trying to use diplomacy for all misunderstandings.

Keep your friend close, but your enemies closer. Tolerance, humility, patience, openmindednes and friendlynes are your best tools to achieving peace and influence.

posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 08:47 AM
I keep wondering why Iran does all it can to cause antagonism between itself and others (most important - big and small satans as same person described them). I mean - from what i understand it should be Iran's wet dream to drive a wedge between USA and Israel and get new administration more close to Iran. Instead of that they go and demand something that puts the new administration into position of no choice. Even if Obama thought he should apologies - and i pretty sure he does not - now he will not be able to do it due to Iranian speech and its influence on US public.
What is reason for this weird behavior? We are behaving like crazy so nobody would think to mess with us? Or we are really crazy? I really do not know and it drives me crazy.

posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 08:53 AM

Originally posted by jerico65
Ahmadinejad needs a boogyman. Bush fit the bill for him.

There is much for which the United States should apologize -- there is no need to start, or stop, with the former President.

However, anyone expecting an actual statement that is phrased as an apology is fooling themselves.

Ahmadinejad is simply playing to his base, as all politicians do.

posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 09:07 AM
This statement is the embodiment of desperation. The mullahs thrive on an enemy or "great satan" and they've had it that easy with Bush that they really do not know what to do with a President that everybody loves to love. A popular US administration is a great burden to a regime that needs an enemy to justify its existence.

I'd like to think Obama is clever enough to rise above it and ignore the crazy ones latest incoherent blabber..

posted on Jan, 29 2009 @ 04:05 PM

This is a great example of the President’s ideals meeting reality. The President went into this believing if he were to extend a hand of peace it would be received and welcomed. I believe the President to be a genuinely sincere and nice person. Unfortunately he also appears to be truly naïve (it’s that whole “experience” thing McCain was on about). To a fault the President appears to believe that others are of the same mind. That is; kind, caring and wanting peace. In order for him to succeed he will need to come to terms with the fact that there are some genuinely evil people in this world. These people reject us, our values and our way of life. They are nothing like us. They cannot be reasoned with, bartered with, placated, bought or appeased. They will stop at nothing to destroy us. His kindness will be mistaken for weakness. Which is exactly what is happening here.

Years from now when he is at his wits end trying to make peace with those that want only to destroy us he might just sit back in his chair and think “Damn, Bush wasn’t so wrong”. I truly wish him the best.

Good luck with that Mr. President. I wish it were so simple.

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