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Obama's Bill hands ACORN $5.2 Billion

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posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 05:37 AM
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THIS STORY ALLEGES that Obama's faux-stimulus bill will hand ACORN $5.2 Billion.


I'm sure most of us remember ACORN. The group that Obama has such close ties to and that was exposed for massive voter registration fraud - in favor of the democrats. They are still under federal investigation for massive voter fraud.

Story Here

Obama has a long history with ACORN.
He worked for them.
He trained the staff in intimidation tactics.
Obama’s Bill Hands ACORN $5.2 Billion Bailout
That's a lot of Chicago style PAY FOR PLAY .. isn't it?
Corrupt ACORN works hard to get Obama elected.
Obama pushes through $5.2 Billion for them.
Our tax money is paying for his reelection in 2012.


Most of the money is secreted away under an item in the now $836 billion package titled “Neighborhood Stabilization Programs.”

The charges of partisan political payback appear to be resonating in part due to Obama’s longstanding association with partisan get-out-the-vote operations. He was endorsed by ACORN, and during the campaign paid an ACORN affiliate $832,600 to get-out-the-vote assistance. Early in his career, he led a voter drive for an ACORN-affiliated group called Project Vote.


Obama - in his own words - promising corrupt ACORN that they'd have a say in his White House.



So lets see if this story is right. Is Obama's faux-stimulus bill getting his corrupt buddies at ACORN $5.2 Billion?

Edited to add - Please note that I used the title of the story. That's not my title.


[edit on 1/28/2009 by FlyersFan]




posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 06:01 AM
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Chicago politics in all its glory. It gets better, give it a couple days.


“Although ACORN operatives usually get their hands on such funds only after they have first passed through the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development or state and local governments, the new spending bill largely eliminates these dawdling middle men, making it easier to get Uncle Sam's largess directly into the hands of the same people who run ACORN's various vote fraud and extortion rackets. And the legislative package provides these funds without the usual prohibition on using government money for lobbying or political activities.”


Obama’s Bill Hands ACORN $5.2 Billion Bailout



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 06:11 AM
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Cool. I hope Obama et al. will keep fleecing the American people.


two lines



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by eldard
Cool. I hope Obama et al. will keep fleecing the American people.



Oh it's not like the money will be leaving the country.
Admirable attempt though.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 08:08 AM
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Hey, Obama. Money to ACORN will stimulate the economy in what way???

Yeah, I thought so.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 08:10 AM
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reply to post by jerico65
 


that's why I call this a faux-stimulous bill. It won't. And as far as how it will stimulate ACORN - it'll be a big chunk of our tax money going to the democratic reelection in 2012.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 11:03 AM
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Do you have absolute solid proof that Obama worked for ACORN and not some internet propaganda?



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 11:17 AM
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Of course there's no proof because it's a lie. The GOP is lying and spreading lies.

The Recovery Plan does not mention ACORN.

Even in the OP's source, it says:



Republicans say voter registration and community groups like ACORN could be eligible for funding under the Democrats' economic stimulus bill.


Check the language...


Originally posted by FlyersFan
So lets see if this story is right.


Why wouldn't you check the actual recovery package to "get the story right" BEFORE you posted?? Especially when you KNOW it's just an allegation? :shk:

[edit on 28-1-2009 by Benevolent Heretic]



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 11:24 AM
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Rest assured, ACORN will get their share of the handouts. Whether it ends up as $1 billion or $1 dollar, they will scrap to get their "fair share".

$5 billion will buy plenty of cartons of cigarettes and Wendy's Frosty gift certificates. They have to stock up for 2012 you know.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 11:27 AM
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Most of the money is secreted away under an item in the now $836 billion package titled “Neighborhood Stabilization Programs.”


Quoted from the source. Neighborhood stabilization is what ACORN does best. Smoke em if you got em. Oh, nothing to smoke...Fill out this little card and I'll give you a free pack of Camels.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 11:49 AM
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Parroting GOP, Dittohead Limbaugh dutifully launches false ACORN attack



During the January 27 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh falsely claimed that "in the Obama stimulus package, $4.19 billion is going to ACORN [Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now]. Obama's community organizing -- you -- would somebody tell me what the stimulus is in that?" Limbaugh continued: "Oh, it's not called 'ACORN,' it's called 'neighborhood stabilization programs.' Now, would somebody explain to me what in the name of Sam Hill ... $4.19 billion to a voter-fraud organization has to do with stimulus?"


"Neighborhood" is not mentioned.
"Stabilization" is mentioned as "State Fiscal Stabilization Fund"

Can anyone find "neighborhood stabilization programs" in the Recovery Plan? Or is this just more parroting?



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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I think you can find the $4.19B they're talking about in "TITLE XII--TRANSPORTATION, AND HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT", of HR1. Go to thomas.loc.gov, search for bill number HR1, and you'll be able to jump to the text. It's under the heading "Community Planning and Development":


For a further additional amount for `Community Development Fund', $4,190,000,000, to be used for neighborhood stabilization activities related to emergency assistance for the redevelopment of abandoned and foreclosed homes as authorized under division B, title III of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 (Public Law 110-289), of which--

(1) not less than $3,440,000,000 shall be allocated by a competition for which eligible entities shall be States, units of general local government, and nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities: Provided, That the award criteria for such competition shall include grantee capacity, leveraging potential, targeted impact of foreclosure prevention, and any additional factors determined by the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Provided further, that the Secretary may establish a minimum grant size: Provided further, That amounts made available under this Section may be used to (A) establish financing mechanisms for purchase and redevelopment of foreclosed-upon homes and residential properties, including such mechanisms as soft-seconds, loan loss reserves, and shared-equity loans for low- and moderate-income homebuyers; (B) purchase and rehabilitate homes and residential properties that have been abandoned or foreclosed upon, in order to sell or rent such homes and properties; (C) establish and operate land banks for homes that have been foreclosed upon; (D) demolish foreclosed properties that have become blighted structures; and (E) redevelop demolished or vacant foreclosed properties in order to sell or rent such properties; and

(2) up to $750,000,000 shall be awarded by competition to nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities to provide community stabilization assistance by (A) accelerating state and local government and nonprofit productivity; (B) increasing the scale and efficiency of property transfers of foreclosed and vacant residential properties from financial institutions and government entities to qualified local housing providers in order to return the properties to productive affordable housing use; (C) building industry and property management capacity; and (D) partnering with private sector real estate developers and contractors and leveraging private sector capital...



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 12:10 PM
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not once did the article say that ACORN will get 5.2 billion dollars, not once did Obama say that ACORN will be getting 5.2 billion dollars so the O.P. has just lied and made up this story.

and after the bush white house gave 350 billion to the banks, i want that welfare money back. i want to know what each and every individual account that 350 billion went into, along with their names and associations. the american taxpayer should not put up with this crap. if the wealthy recieved any of this money for their own stupid mistakes, i want them thrown in prison for fraud and embezzlement of united states treasury funds.

[edit on 28-1-2009 by jimmyx]

[edit on 28-1-2009 by jimmyx]



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 12:17 PM
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funny, I read this in the OP article:


According to Matthew Vadum of the Capitol Research Center, the stimulus package now under consideration includes:

# $1 billion stashed away in Community Development Block Grant money that ACORN often vies for successfully.

# $10 million to develop or refurbish low-income housing, a specialty of ACORN’s.

# $4.19 billion to stave off foreclosures via the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. Vadum states the current version of the bill would allow nonprofits to compete with cities and states for $3.44 billion of the money. Some $750 million, however, would be exclusively reserved for nonprofits such as ACORN, which is actually an umbrella organization for over 100 progressive organizations.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by redhatty
reply to post by jimmyx
 


funny, I read this in the OP article:


According to Matthew Vadum of the Capitol Research Center, the stimulus package now under consideration includes:

# $1 billion stashed away in Community Development Block Grant money that ACORN often vies for successfully.

# $10 million to develop or refurbish low-income housing, a specialty of ACORN’s.

# $4.19 billion to stave off foreclosures via the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. Vadum states the current version of the bill would allow nonprofits to compete with cities and states for $3.44 billion of the money. Some $750 million, however, would be exclusively reserved for nonprofits such as ACORN, which is actually an umbrella organization for over 100 progressive organizations.


funny..that's the opinion of matthew vadum...could you tell me what position he holds in the Obama administration? and i still don't see even in his diatribe, where ACORN gets 5.2 billion...i guess what your both saying is that out of the thousands of nonprofits in the country, ONLY ACORN will get the 5.2 billion.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyx
so the O.P. has just lied and made up this story.

Uh .. WRONG. And before you go throwing around the 'lie' word, you really ought to be sure you are right.


The title of this thread is the EXACT title of the MSM story - and that's what we are supposed to do when posting one - ATS RULES SAY SO.


Originally posted by Frankidealist35
Do you have absolute solid proof that Obama worked for ACORN and not some internet propaganda?



Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Of course there's no proof because it's a lie. The GOP is lying and spreading lies.


:shk: Unbelievable. It's a FACT that Obama worked for ACORN.
He was their freak'n lawyer and he trained ACORN workers.
Read the damn articles.
Cleveland Newspaper
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze .... wake the hell up.

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Obama started building the base years before. For instance, ACORN noticed him when he was organizing on the far south side of the city with the Developing Communities Project. He was a very good organizer. When he returned from law school, we asked him to help us with a lawsuit to challenge the state of Illinois’ refusal to abide by the National Voting Rights Act, also known as motor voter. Allied only with the state of Mississippi, Illinois had been refusing to allow mass-based voter registration according to the new law. Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar (the name of the Republican governor at the time) and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5000 of them).

Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office. Thus, it was natural for many of us to be active volunteers in his first campaign for State Senate and then his failed bid for U.S. Congress in 1996. By the time he ran for U.S. Senate, we were old friends. And along about early March, we started to see that the African-American community had made its move: when Sen. Obama’s name was mentioned at our Southside Summit meeting with 700 people in attendance from three southside communities, the crowd went crazy. With about a week to go before the election, it was very clear how the African-American community would vote. But would they vote in high enough numbers?


Every year since 1992 until at least the winter of 2003, Obama taught a “session on power” for ACORN.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyx
the bush white house gave 350 billion to the banks, i want that welfare money back.

SO DO I.

NY Post - same title - stimulus money for ACORN

POlitical Machine - same type of title

Market Watch - same type of title


Originally posted by jimmyx
could you tell me what position he holds in the Obama administration?

Holding or not holding a position in the Obama administration has NOTHING TO DO with knowing or not knowing where the money tends to go.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 02:12 PM
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when reading the 'other sources' Quotes;


...Some $750 million, however, would be exclusively reserved for nonprofits such as ACORN, which is actually an umbrella organization for over 100 progressive organizations.



Other non-profit NGO's, might well include the 'United Way'
which most employees are arm twisted into making donations
by companies that want that magic 100% participation number...


Translation: make the employer 'Look Good' in the trade papers/community
[no matter that your slave wage of $7.00hr is a non-living wage]



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
The title of this thread is the EXACT title of the MSM story - and that's what we are supposed to do when posting one - ATS RULES SAY SO.


That's only in the Breaking News forums. (And when it's convenient for effect, of course.) Your other recent threads don't follow this "rule":

"Dems Against Rush"
Linked Article Title: "Democrats Launch Petition Against Rush Limbaugh After Firing Back at Obama"
"Obama's Faux-Stimulus Package"
Linked Article Title: "Obama Stimulus Package Really Socialism?"
"Obama Interview with Al-Arabiya"
Linked Article Title: "Obama Gives First TV Interview To Arabic Network"

What do you think about the OP now? Are you still claiming "Obama’s Bill Hands ACORN $5.2 Billion Bailout"? That's YOUR claim in the OP.



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