NASA at odds? Ares vs. Jupiter Direct, page 1
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reply posted on 27-1-2009 @ 11:21 PM by ngchunter
reply to post by Zarniwoop


Well if Obama goes through with his ideas, like mounting an orion capsule to be flown by a european launcher that isn't even man-rated yet, then I think we'll all be begging for Griffin to come back. The new director isn't even interested in space exploration. It's just a consolation prize. He probably couldn't really care what happens to Ares or manned space exploration in general. I say we just build one of these suckers and go to mars:




reply posted on 30-1-2009 @ 10:08 PM by djvexd
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You know you have a point...however the fact the each country...mostly US and Russia hold thier respective space programs over each others heads pollutes any chance of complete cooperation.I think along your same lines lets get everyone on board becasue this place is starting to suck...lol


reply posted on 31-1-2009 @ 07:30 AM by Pilas Odor
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NASA, ESA, and Russia, as far as i know are the only ones capable of achiving the 2030 deadeline to send a mission to mars. We all know that even now, years after the cold war, the relations between the USA and Russia are not stable, and there's still a climate of suspicious between the two superpowers. However, the US as excelent relations with Europe, and Europe knows how to deal with Russia since Russia is part of Europe itself (not the EU yet, but this is not a mere economic factor, and european countries tend to stick together). So a joint venture between the three agencies would be plausible. ESA has the tecnology, the funds, and can act as a diplomat between NASA and the Russians, and both of them have the tremendous experience and man power that ESA lacks. So we could really have a mars mission that would be highly reliable if we just can put all the political problems aside. Maybe Japan would eventualy chip in.

We have the International Space Station, why not an international mission to mars?

thanks for the reply, it's always nice to meet people who can actually set aside our internal diferences and see space exploration has it should be.


reply posted on 31-1-2009 @ 08:36 PM by djvexd
reply to post by RFBurns



Do you think that if NASA drops the ball on this, that maybe commercial interests might decide to not wait and lead the way?
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