Dennis Kucinich States His Intention To Put The Federal Reserve Under Government Control, page 1
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Topic started on 27-1-2009 @ 02:13 PM by tjeffersonsghost




Brought tears to my eyes. If he does introduce this our reps MUST hear from us. We cannot sit back and let this slide!!!!

"stop lending credit into circulation and instead of borrowing money from banks and creating debt, governement can spend the money into circulation."

Priceless. Our money would have intrinsic value at that point. Ill be watching this.


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reply posted on 27-1-2009 @ 02:48 PM by Maxmars
There is one wrinkle in the plan.

Our Legislators have terminated our control of the Treasury. They passed legislation, along with the initial so-called "bail-out" (I prefer to think of it as extortion) they passed 'executive' powers to the Treasury Czar, whose actions and policies are beyond legal challenge, even by that of the traditionally separate power, the Judiciary.

As long as the Treasury is free from accountability for it's actions, as it is now - thanks to them - we really don't have control. Putting the Fed under the Treasury is akin to the Fox guarding the hen-house.

The Treasury Czar is a POLITICAL appointee, and an INTIMATE associate of the Central Banking Cartel of which the Fed is a small (although significant) component. Since the Treasurer either comes directly from the 'financial' industry itself, or is in fact beholden to their machinations and agenda, we can no longer 'win' the struggle against economic tyranny by placing it under the Department of the Treasury. We are paying "our" treasurer to work for them.

The International ministers of finance and the "international' cartel itself are the singular well-spring our ALL our financial maladies. How much more self-evident this can be is beyond me.

Mr. Kucinich intention's, whether righteous or not, are doomed to an ineffectual result. We need to realize that financial doctrine appears to be a religious expression, and as such, such be entirely separate from the state. Unfortunately oversight is pointless without an avenue for redress. Which is precisely what the legislature demolished with the bailout on the 3rd of October 2008..


reply posted on 27-1-2009 @ 02:57 PM by disgustedbyhumanity
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The Treasury Czar is no longer. He was out the day Bush left and now we have Geithner in charge. Geithner has become a state's witness as well and will start testifying against the "Czar" adn the folks that abetted him.

As far as getting rid of the federal reserve, I believe that all the actions we have seen to date, lead to that conclusion. Before it is done all debt will be rolled into the Fed and then with one stroke of a pen and a few computer entries, we will be free of their financial tyranny for good.


reply posted on 27-1-2009 @ 03:33 PM by Maxmars
Originally posted by disgustedbyhumanity
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The Treasury Czar is no longer. He was out the day Bush left and now we have Geithner in charge. Geithner has become a state's witness as well and will start testifying against the "Czar" adn the folks that abetted him.



Are you certain? I can't recall seeing any legislatorial change in the scope and breadth of the position. Just because the faces change doesn't mean the position changed. Or might you have a link to share that I could research. The laws were formally changed in Oct. '08 by legislative action, I can;t believe I missed the change to the law, but if I did... boy that's good news.

Edit to add: Geithner? The former president (or was it CEO) of the New York branch of the Federal Reserve Bank? Uh. No disrespect intended, but I wouldn't put my eggs in that basket.

If he moves to create policy extinguishing his unchallengeable decision-making power, I might reconsider.

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reply posted on 28-1-2009 @ 02:02 PM by TheWayISeeIt
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Hi Max -

Can you link to the legislation you are referencing that was passed for the Treasury Czar? I know better than to doubt you, but I am having a hard time finding anything on it while I am in search of Geither's current status vis-a-vis that.

Thanks!


reply posted on 28-1-2009 @ 03:18 PM by Maxmars
Originally posted by TheWayISeeIt
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Hi Max -

Can you link to the legislation you are referencing that was passed for the Treasury Czar? I know better than to doubt you, but I am having a hard time finding anything on it while I am in search of Geither's current status vis-a-vis that.

Thanks!


Please - always doubt me - I prefer to be corrected than to have someone take my all-too-human memory's accuracy for granted!

It was entitled "Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008" and was put forth by Mr. Paulson of "Blueprint for a Modernized Financial Regulatory Reform" fame.

In section 8 of the proposed and subsequently passed legislation you will find: ""Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency."

Now I haven't reviewed the final version, but someone told me it had been removed. Knowing the nature and practices of our esteemed legislators, I'm certain the verbiage was probably couched differently to ensure the same redress-proofing. But I will be happy to be wrong. Essentially such authority was granted and set to expire on December 31st, 2009; but I am still reviewing the 451 page document (these things take time you know )

Here is the link to the law: Public Law 110-343 - www.house.gov...

sorry for the delay in responding
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