reply to post by Absum!
About those numbers you quoted. They are most obviously in error.
During the invasion of Iraq, tens of thousands of Iraqi soldiers and paramilitary personnel were killed. It was estimated that somewhere between
10,000 - 50,000 Iraqi soldiers were killed during the shootout in the desert when the American advance was stalled by a sandstorm. One US soldier was
quoted by the media that they were affraid that they would run out of ammunition before the Iraqis ran out of men to throw in front of them.
The other problem with the numbers is that the numbers of terrorists, members of al-Qaeda in Iraq are counted as civilians, since they are not members
of any military group. al-Qaeda in Iraq very clearly stated over 2 years ago that more than 16,000 of their number had been killed in action. I don't
see those numbers in the ones that you quoted.
Another fact is those numbers that you quoted don't differentiate between civilians killed by American action or al-Qaeda in Iraq. Do you think that
the mother of an Iraqi who was blown up by an al-Qaeda suicide bomber while he waited in line to join the Iraqi military blames the US? Somehow I
So, if these facts are taken into account it gives a very different read on those numbers.
I would also like to address a very common falacy that you repeated and that I see repeated in the media as if it were a fact. That is, that civilian
casualties generate more terrorists. The idea is that al-Qaeda's ranks are filled with grieving parents, widows, and orphans. That is simply not
true. Sure, they will use these types of individuals as cannon fodder, or as suicide bombers, but al-Qaeda wants true believers, people with sharp
minds, who can kill without emotion.
I would also point out that if civilian casualties automatically make more terrorists, then there would be hundreds of thousands of American
terrorists, generated by the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans killed by terrorists, or by fighting terrorists, over the past 40 years.
Also, the world would be soaked in blood from the angry Japanese terrorists generated by the civilians killed in WWII.
To say nothing of the German, French, and British terrorists generated by the millions of civilian deaths during WWII.
It just aint so that civilian casualties swell the ranks of terror groups. So please quit saying it.