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Topic started on 26-1-2009 @ 04:53 PM by Quantum_Squirrel

Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban

www.reuters.com

President Barack Obama's pledge to seek a worldwide ban on weapons in space marks a dramatic shift in U.S. policy while posing the tricky issue of defining whether a satellite can be a weapon.

Moments after Obama's inauguration last week, the White House website was updated to include policy statements on a range of issues, including a pledge to restore U.S. leadership on space issues and seek a worldwide ban on weapons that interfere with military and commercial satellites.

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reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 04:53 PM by Quantum_Squirrel

I tell you something, if Obama delivers on just half the promises and statements put out this week i will be suitably impressed.

Think Mr Greer has been having a word in his ear?

(not i am not a Greer fan, although the disclosure project was exciting in its time , and i don't think so many military personell speaking should not be ignored... just when i got to the part of his session to contact other beings. and to go on them you have to sign a Non-Disclosure form i mean wtf is that about, Hypocrisy!)

www.reuters.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 04:58 PM by bodrul

reply to post by Quantum_Squirrel

isnt space already Militarized?
we have satalites that can be controled to attack other satalites with projectiles and then we have the star wars defence system and so on.

reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 05:02 PM by Finn1916

Ok, I;m not a fan of this. I have been wanting a blaster and lightsaber since I was a small child, and Obama is screwing me out of tht chance.

reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 05:06 PM by tezzajw

So Obama is really saying that he wants a ban on the rest of the world putting weapons in space. He wants Team America World Police to be the only force with space weapons.

Maybe someone told him that they already have *cough* a couple *cough* of weapons already in orbit?

reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 05:07 PM by jam321

Considering how well the nuclear ban has been going, I am pretty sure this will be just be a few more words scratch on paper that don't mean a darn thing. Hell, we will probably be the first one to break such a ban.

reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 05:21 PM by Quantum_Squirrel

reply to post by bodrul

I think you could slam a sattelite into another but i am not sure we have any that shoot projectiles...

Also if the U.S had a working 'Star wars' project .. why the need for ground based missile defense shields?

the best i think you have is lasers mounted on planes and some ground based lasers that as of late are becoming more and more effective.

reply to post by tezzajw

We can track all the sattalites right? heck they have software that tracks all the garbage orbiting... if a U.S space based weapon was up there u think one of the other superpowers wouldn't know and wouldn't scream blue murder? unless they have them also .........

reply to post by jam321

A great point maybe we should concentrate on banning the world ending weapons on the ground first before tackling the space based ones .. although space based ban might be easier to pull off.

reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 05:38 PM by SGT Michael Grein

reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 05:44 PM by Hastobemoretolife

Two Words:

Black Budget.

So what Obama is going to do is try to push a ban on spaced based weapons meanwhile there are billions of dollars in black budget money that the gov't is unaccountable for and doesn't even know about.

What does Obama think, China, Russia, etc is going to let US to inspect everything they launch into space?

This dude is in way over his head.

reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 07:15 PM by RRconservative

Obama is all about weakening the Military. 1st closing Club Gitmo (even though that will not happen), now a space weapons ban. This is a slap in the face to Ronald Reagan, a man who actually cared about keeping Americans safe.

reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 09:19 PM by Majic

You Can Have My Orbital Kinetic Kill Vehicle When You Pry It From My Cold, Dead Fingers

Not only is such a ban likely to prove impractical and unenforceable for nations other than the U.S., it probably wouldn't stop space weapon programs in the U.S. either.

Pure political fluff, in my opinion.

YMMV

reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 09:24 PM by Mak Manto

Please, RR!

First off, I thought the Outer Space Treaty was already in effect, stating that it "bars States Parties to the Treaty from placing nuclear weapons or any other weapons of mass destruction in orbit of Earth, installing them on the Moon or any other celestial body, or to otherwise station them in outer space."

Well, I hope Obama is able to work it through.

As to you, RR, [ill-mannered comment removed]. The United States is not supposed to be a major powerhouse, especially as something as dangerous with weapons in space. We want a more peaceful world.

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reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 09:51 PM by Quantum_Squirrel

Originally posted by Majic
You Can Have My Orbital Kinetic Kill Vehicle When You Pry It From My Cold, Dead Fingers

Not only is such a ban likely to prove impractical and unenforceable for nations other than the U.S., it probably wouldn't stop space weapon programs in the U.S. either.

Pure political fluff, in my opinion.

YMMV

Although i respect you're right to the 'Orbital Kinetic Kill Vehicle ' i am worried that when you need it most it will fail... will the kinetic part of it work with no resistance to push against?

EDIT to ADD:

it appears you're orbital killing machine will actually work very well i sit corrected.

wiki states

Spacecraft use chemical energy to take off and gain considerable kinetic energy to reach orbital velocity. This kinetic energy gained during launch will remain constant while in orbit because there is almost no friction. However it becomes apparent at re-entry when the kinetic energy is converted to heat.

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reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 09:54 PM by asmeone2

Rhetorical Question.

How in the world do you enforce a no-space-weapons banned without having space weapons yourself?