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Look Out! Here Comes the Fairness Doctrine

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posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 03:03 PM
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Obama's recent comments about Rush Limbaugh are just the tip of the iceberg. I fear the worst is yet to come. Obama has played the centrist card and the unifier card for long enough. It would seem that his true liberal colors are slowly bleeding through.


Alexandria, VA - President Barack Obama took a shot at conservative talk radio king Rush Limbaugh by warning GOP leaders that "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done." This attack came during a meeting on Capitol Hill held to discuss Pres. Obama's hefty $1 trillion stimulus package. One White House official attempted to cushion the jab by alleging that the President was pointing to the fact that "There are big things that unify Republicans and Democrats" and that "partisan politics" should not get in the way of accomplishing "very important things."


newsbusters.org...

Statements like this one about Limbaugh and his recent smug statement of "I won" are intended to help pave the way for the Fairness Doctrine. Obama will then be able to silence any and all opposition. An opposition which BTW overwhelmingly dominates Talk Radio.

Here is how Limbaugh responded to Obama.


There are two things going on here. One prong of the Great Unifier's plan is to isolate elected Republicans from their voters and supporters by making the argument about me and not about his plan. He is hoping that these Republicans will also publicly denounce me and thus marginalize me. And who knows? Are ideological and philosophical ties enough to keep the GOP loyal to their voters? Meanwhile, the effort to foist all blame for this mess on the private sector continues unabated when most of the blame for this current debacle can be laid at the feet of the Congress and a couple of former presidents. And there is a strategic reason for this. [...]

To make the argument about me instead of his plan makes sense from his perspective. Obama's plan would buy votes for the Democrat Party, in the same way FDR's New Deal established majority power for 50 years of Democrat rule, and it would also simultaneously seriously damage any hope of future tax cuts. It would allow a majority of American voters to guarantee no taxes for themselves going forward. It would burden the private sector and put the public sector in permanent and firm control of the economy. Put simply, I believe his stimulus is aimed at re-establishing "eternal" power for the Democrat Party rather than stimulating the economy because anyone with a brain knows this is NOT how you stimulate the economy. If I can be made to serve as a distraction, then there is that much less time debating the merits of this TRILLION dollar debacle. [...]

If I can be made to serve as a distraction, then there is that much less time debating the merits of the trillion dollar debacle.


newsbusters.org...

During the campaign Obama et al. tried to paint FoxNews and Talk Radio as a villain in trying to tarnish his image. Meanwhile every major MSM outlet from print to TV was fawning all over Obama.

Obama is clearly paving the way for Fairness over FREE SPEECH. Open your mouths and say Ahh. We will now have to be spoon fed.




posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 03:41 PM
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The media brought this on their own selves, trust me. There is not a metropolitan paper in this country that won't hesitate to libel politicians, business owners or anyone else that gets in the way of their own agendas speaking from a decade of experience. Advertising revenue, not ethics, controls the news industry lock, stock and barrel. I agree that there is a very dark side to this policy but it will help to stop the dissemination of fraudulent information by requiring new agencies or talk show hosts to back up their claims with more than second-hand gossip sites and ahem, other unverified sites. Quite frankly, it's a much needed step in the right direction. It's about time people started to learn to deal in cold hard logic and reality and quit living in lala land.
I applaud Obama for knocking Limbaugh down a notch, he is a bad joke with rap sheet.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 03:51 PM
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I'm not too worried about any of this. It is only a matter of time before the Republicans get their ducks in a row and become more vocal. They have been eerily quiet as of late. I guess the calmness before the storm.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by secretagent woooman
The media brought this on their own selves, trust me. There is not a metropolitan paper in this country that won't hesitate to libel politicians, business owners or anyone else that gets in the way of their own agendas speaking from a decade of experience. Advertising revenue, not ethics, controls the news industry lock, stock and barrel. I agree that there is a very dark side to this policy but it will help to stop the dissemination of fraudulent information by requiring new agencies or talk show hosts to back up their claims with more than second-hand gossip sites and ahem, other unverified sites. Quite frankly, it's a much needed step in the right direction. It's about time people started to learn to deal in cold hard logic and reality and quit living in lala land.
I applaud Obama for knocking Limbaugh down a notch, he is a bad joke with rap sheet.


So much for free speech in a free country. Before you know it they will be knocking on the door of abovetopsecret.com.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 04:03 PM
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Ok, first of all. Rush Limbaugh is an idiot. As far as i'm concerned he's in the same place as Billo-The-Clown when it comes down to public opinion, so i'm not too worried about anything he says.

In regards to republicans being mute lately that is a little odd, but they're still licking their wounds since the last election cycle, i'm sure they'll be up and arms soon enough.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 06:31 PM
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There used to be a fairness policy in place and I believe it was Reagen who appealed it. The fairness policy does nothing to abridge free speech. It's a practice that's been around before and it just makes broadcast journalists be more professional and present real news like they're supposed to.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 09:05 AM
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Now this story is evolving into a petition against Rush. Like Rush or not, they are making an example out of him because he is the most recognizable face in conservative media.

This is merely a warning sign of things to come. Just listen to the rhetoric!!

The same people in the MSM who are crying foul about the way conservatives speak about Obama spent the last 6 years trashing all things republican/conservative.

The hard left controls virtually all media outlets. What are they whining about. God forbid anyone criticize or attempt to hold the chosen Barry accountable.


f you had any questions remaining about the war liberals have launched to end conservative talk radio they should be answered by a petition the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee began "to show Rush Limbaugh and all of the Republicans what they're up against if they start attacking President Obama."


Here is the cry baby letter that it is going to circulate:


Dear Friend, Last week, Rush Limbaugh gave us a preview of the outrageous Republican attacks that are on the way against President Obama and every Democrat working for change. Rush actually said that he 'hopes' President Obama fails to meet America's challenges.

Listen to Rush in his own words, saying "I hope he fails."

Limbaugh's cheap shot at President Obama might be the first by the Republican attack machine this year but we know that it won't be the last. We need every grassroots Democrat to show Rush Limbaugh and all of the Republicans what they're up against if they start attacking President Obama and Democrats who are working to end the failed GOP policies of the last eight years.

Tell Rush what you think of his attacks on President Obama. We'll send him your comments. Jobs, health care, our place in the world - the stakes for our nation are high and every American needs President Obama to succeed. Creating real change requires every American stand strong against Rush Limbaugh's attacks - and all of the other partisan attacks from desperate Republicans that are on the way. Let's start right here and now.

Brian Wolff Brian Wolff Executive Director, DCCC



Here's the petition: Stand strong against Rush Limbaugh’s Attacks — sign our petition, telling Rush what you think of his attacks on President Obama. We’ll send Limbaugh your comments.


Those who say that this has nothing to do with freedom of speech, I would disagree. Just at look at the way the White House has been controlling the press pool and the photographers.

Think about it.

I said it before and web sites such as ATS will be next.

newsbusters.org...

This is the DCCC website and petition
dccc.org...



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 09:15 AM
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Obama has stated plainly on several occasions that he has no intention of reinstating the Fairness Doctrine.

There are, however, many issues for debate with regard to the FCC, as detailed here:

www.reason.com...



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 09:19 AM
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I don't buy it for a minute. When the honeymoon is over, the pressure will be applied in full force. Perhaps they will just re write it and title it the "Hope and Change Manifesto"



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 09:24 AM
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Why am I not surprised. For all the rhetoric about transparency, the Obama administration has decided not to post press briefing transcripts on the whitehouse.gov website.

The Weekly Standard writes:


Barack Obama's administration may be promising the "greatest ethical standard ever administered to an executive branch," and increased transparency over his predecessor, but it seems to be forgoing at least one transparency practice that was routine in the Bush White House— transcripts of the daily press briefing.

It's been four days since Press Secretary Robert Gibbs' first (and widely panned) appearance before the White House press corps, but no transcript, summary, or video of the event has shown up on WhiteHouse.gov. The delay could be forgiven in a less tech-savvy bunch, but given the Obama team's considerable online skill, the omission of the the transcript is clearly intentional.

In contrast, the Bush White House provided a transcript of every daily briefing, searchable and accessible in its own section on their web site. The archive, available via the Wayback Machine but not on the new WhiteHouse.gov, started Jan. 24, 2001. The Clinton White House also provided transcripts of the briefing, according to archives, at least as early as 1999.

The decision to withhold transcripts is not a departure from the Obama Team's online posture during the campaign, and signals that's exactly the posture they intend to take for the next four years. Team Obama got a lot of credit for being an active online presence, which indeed it was, but that presence was built for message control, not openness. (My.BarackObama, the campaign's social networking platform, is a different story, but it was cordoned off from the official campaign material, which was pretty tightly controlled.)


And Redstate.com comments about this:


There are two concerns here: one practical, and one theoretical. The practical problem here is that full and prompt official documentation of press conferences and statements is a very useful tool for the people who use them to write news and/or analysis pieces. Having a transcript - or, better, a video - of precisely what was said (and not said) can make the difference between a flap and a scandal… and if you don’t think that this is that big a deal, imagine how much fun The Usual Suspects could have had if they were able to claim that the Bush administration came out in favor of eating puppies and nobody was able to readily check. Well, right now nobody can check. Shoot, right now it’d take people a while to get the information together to confirm or deny MK’s observation that Gibbs did badly in his first press conference. Under Bush, we’d just link and let people make up their own minds.


They don't want us to know what is said during the press briefings, no written account of the words expressed, not even for journalists to verify their quotes, yet they want to enact a fairness doctrine to stop journalists from disseminating information that cannot be backed up.

Does that mean that they want to stop the press from reporting on the press conferences too?



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 09:26 AM
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The first time around there was no internet. Anything remotely resembling the newspeak named "Fairness" Doctrine will have to include extensive provisions for regulating and censoring the internet.

It's a P.O.S. measure with a happy little name that any politician in favor of should be drug out into the street and shot.

Just because Obama claims he isnt in favor of it doesnt mean he wont sign it. That's how he'll retain a thin veneer of this alleged bipartisanship. Claim opposition then shrug like an idiot as he signs the bill into law.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 09:29 AM
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The lack of the Fairness Doctrine gives us News channels like FOX and MSNBC. It doesn't really matter to me, as MSM, if it keeps going on its current course, will be almost as much of a joke as Limbaugh.

Limbaugh's been ragging on Obama since he first appeared in the election news. You can't play Rush as the victim when he's been slamming Obama right and left at every turn for 2 years now. Limbaugh's a joke. What Obama said about him was a joke. It was a funny little insult that Limbaugh's too stupid to get. He doesn't even rate to be in a public "tussle" with Obama. He's loving the publicity, though, and will stretch it as far as he can. He's nobody.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 09:41 AM
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It does not matter if your a Republican or a Democrat. This is a huge, huge step to further loss of our freedoms.

What will be next after this? Blogs, ATS, Websites?

Liberals please wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am not asking you to be Republicans but at least think about how your party was during the Kennedy years.

Liberals, do you realize that if JFK were alive today he would be a conservative?

Liberals no longer really believe in free speech for any but themselves. Members of Congress go around threatening to criminalize global warming “deniers”; the management of The New York Times leads the charge to pass restrictive campaign finance reforms outlawing advocacy speech and then violates the very laws they sought for the benefit of their left-wing allies, all while seeking to shut down “right-wing talk radio” because they find themselves unable to compete with the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 10:14 AM
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I think the best thing that the world could do right now is to just say "no".

First all the people of the world should just say "no" to the digital transfer before it is too late. Everyone should refuse to get rid of their analog TVs and radios and refuse to sign on to digital. If you already have it; dump it. What are they going to do; broadcast only digital to an audience that is nonexistent? I sure as heck hope so because what they are broadcasting now we all could do without.

Second stop listening to anyone that is not living in the same house with you or in your community. They do not know you and they do not know what is best for you, your, family or your community. They are there for there own agenda and to ultimately line their coffers with your money, blood sweat and tears.

Rush and all the others like him no matter what side of the aisle they sit on are “paid” to say the things that they say. They are the mouth pieces for the people that pay them and the moment they start saying anything different they will be replaced and another will soon be elevated to the throne.

You don’t need Rush or anybody else to tell you what is right. The information that they have they contort to their view point is readily accessible to you just as well as it is to them. You can find you own data by a click of the mouse. Read it for yourself. You are not stupid and you might be surprised at just how different it sounds when you read for yourself before anyone else has had the opportunity to prepare it and present it to you.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 08:25 PM
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Newsbusters lol. The Democrats are firmly against the Fairness Doctrine boogeyman that's being rolled out by desperate Republicans. If it comes from Newsbusters you can be pretty confident its bull$hit. Move along..there's nothing here for serious people to pay attention to.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 08:50 PM
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I'm sorry , but do you hate him because he speaks the truth? You know, the truth is hard to hear sometimes. Yes, he might make stupid songs or make weird noises, But the point is, he tells you what is real and true.

Try making an assumption based on facts and not word of mouth.



posted on Jan, 29 2009 @ 07:24 AM
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Originally posted by hawkeye1717
Newsbusters lol. The Democrats are firmly against the Fairness Doctrine boogeyman that's being rolled out by desperate Republicans. If it comes from Newsbusters you can be pretty confident its bull$hit. Move along..there's nothing here for serious people to pay attention to.


Newsbusters posts articles from the MSM and seeks to inform of any critical facts that are conveniently left out by the MSM lefties.

Newsbusters posts all links to the articles. They also posted the letter and link to the DCCC petition.



posted on Jan, 29 2009 @ 10:51 AM
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I have to ask. If the fairness doctrine is applied doesn't that apply to everyone on the political spectrum?

Other nations have also already taken measures to regulate what sides people can take or neutrality and this and that. It's not new, but here, it would be like regulating free speech.

Obama is probably used like the rest of us are with criticizing Faux news. But, now he's President, so he can't let one news station get to him like that.



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 07:19 PM
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As sailor said, it is the degradation of our FREEDOMS not about Rush or anyone else. But the government being allowed to come in and say "You may have the ratings, the networks are making money off your show, but, they can't run their business as they see fit, do it OUR way".

Wake up people. We have had our freedoms stripped away slowly and surely. Look at the bailouts, they are *socialist*. The one passed under Bush and the one in the house now. Its just worse now because it comes with the government starting to limit income.

You don't have to like what people say on the radio or TV. Turn the channel. Vote with your dollars. We need to defend the right for people to say it though!!!!

www.politico.com...


Sen. Stabenow wants hearings on radio 'accountability'; talks fairness doctrine This morning, radio host Bill Press brought up the recent closing of liberal station Obama 1260 when speaking with Michigan Sen. Debbie Stabenow, and talked about whether there needs to be a balance to right-wing talk on the radio dial. BILL PRESS: Yeah, I mean, look: They have a right to say that. They’ve got a right to express that. But, they should not be the only voices heard. So, is it time to bring back the Fairness Doctrine? SENATOR DEBBIE STABENOW (D-MI): I think it’s absolutely time to pass a standard. Now, whether it’s called the Fairness Standard, whether it’s called something else — I absolutely think it’s time to be bringing accountability to the airwaves. I mean, our new president has talked rightly about accountability and transparency. You know, that we all have to step up and be responsible. And, I think in this case, there needs to be some accountability and standards put in place. BILL PRESS: Can we count on you to push for some hearings in the United States Senate this year, to bring these owners in and hold them accountable? SENATOR DEBBIE STABENOW (D-MI): I have already had some discussions with colleagues and, you know, I feel like that’s gonna happen. Yep. Although Obama has been publicly opposed to reinstating the fairness doctrine, conservative radio has talked nonstop about the fear of it returning (or perhaps something like it with another name) while there's a Democrat in the White House and a Democratic majority in Congress. UPDATE: A commenter points out that Stabenow is married to Tom Athans, a liberal talk radio executive.



posted on Feb, 12 2009 @ 10:05 AM
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Tom Harkin is apparently on board with the Fairness Doctrine.


U.S. Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, is pushing for return of the Fairness Doctrine even as some of his Democratic colleagues are quietly backing off the idea.



HARKIN: Well, anytime – just let me know Bill. I love being with you, and thanks again for all you do to get the truth and the facts out there. By the way, I read your Op-Ed in the Washington Post the other day. I ripped it out, I took it into my office and said 'there you go, we gotta get the Fairness Doctrine back in law again.'

PRESS: Alright, well good for you. You know, we gotta work on that, because they are just shutting down progressive talk from one city after another. All we want is, you know, some balance on the airwaves, that's all. You know, we're not going to take any of the conservative voices off the airwaves, but just make sure that there are a few progressives and liberals out there, right?

HARKIN: Exactly, and that's why we need the fair -- that's why we need the Fairness Doctrine back.


The free market does not care to listen to the progressives and liberals on the radio. Just ask Al Franken. TV is already full of them.

The Dems want to rework the Census Bureau, so why not media as well.

Keep your eyes peeled...



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