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If Flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon, what happened to the passengers?

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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by SmArTbEaTz
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You're more of a tool than I thought...

1. Remains of each and every plane were found at their respective crash sites. --- SHOW ME THE PICTURES AND VIDEO...
2. Remains of almost every person on board the jets were found at their respective crash sites. --- Remains but not Black Box? Come on tool...
3. Bailing out those companies was stupid and one reason (among many) why I voted to throw out my Congressman a month ago. --- At least you have some brains in there...
4. WMD weapons... The stuff they found was OUTDATED and was considered unusable you tard. ) "It is less toxic than most things that Americans have under their kitchen sink at this point,"

Stick to training sheep because when the time comes I'll be the one doing the schooling... you still need to get out of your matrix.


1. Try studying some threads around here, you will find some photos.
2. And remains of black boxes were found.
3. You really dont want to try and compare brains with me.
4. I wasn't speaking of the 500 weapons that were found, which were supposedly destroyed in 1993 and yes, were a violation, does not matter if they were passed their shelf life or not according to the cease fire. I was speaking of another find, that wasn't really reported in the media.

So, before you run off at the fingers and start tossing insults (and getting reported for ToC violations) you might want to actually do some research.




posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 06:51 PM
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1. The original plane was hijacked by a black ops team, all radar diasabled, plane lands at undisclosed government facilty, all passengers are unboarded, and shot by a firing squad.

2. Similar to #1, yet the people survive, are taken to a secret facility operated by the military or CIA, memories erased, plastic surgery procedures, and reinserted into society.

3. Passengers are taken to yet again, another secret facility operated by NASA/military, and are assigned to a top secret mission in outer space, perhaps to another planet, or they are sold to ET's as slaves in return for advanced technologies.

4. The plane is diverted over the Atlantic, is crashed, and the wreckage is recovered by the Navy while all attention is diverted to Ground Zero, while simultaneously, a cruise missle is launched from an offshore sub to strike the pentagon.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 08:04 PM
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reply to post by secretagent woooman I agree with your post.There is a book in My towns Library, It has pics and bios of everyone that was killed in the towers and planes . It showed everyones pics that worked in the towers and where they worked in the towers . Why is there a conspiricy on this to begin with . Why would our Government do this to Americans . I dont beleive that our President would do this, just to start a war with Iraq . The familys of the victims dont need to think that their loved ones were murdered by our own President and Government Leaders, they have suffered enough .
 



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 08:07 PM
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posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 08:18 PM
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You have got to be kidding me! Where is your reasoning coming from? You are severly paranoid!! you better go to the doctors . you need help quick!



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by detachedindividual
 


The only conspiracy about 9/11 is the conspiracy of the mob-dominated construction business in NYC that erected the WTC complex out of inferior materials. This construction-skimming nets the mob over a billion dollars a year and involves total systemic corruption from the building and permits department to the construction materials suppliers, to the building contractors, to the actual workmen themselves who, on the take, install inferior beams, inferior bolts, and inferior concrete (which is the reason why the concrete turned to powder instead of coming down in chunks). Inferior construction caused the WTC buildings to pancake; it happens all the time in the third world where the building industry is corrupted too.





It amazes me that you have no trouble believing a construction cabal is responsible for the towers weakness but pass over glaring evidence of government foreknowledge, asset creation, Pakistani ISI involvement e.c.t.



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 08:35 PM
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I live in Honduras and see every day what bad workmanship can do to a building. Even the worse one will not vaporise like the towers did! The the buildings did not pancake!!! that is clear from any video as you can clearly see the building just vaporises from the top down!!! there are some small parts of the building that escape the foot print and they clearly fall to the ground.

It is for this reason that I believe Judy Wood is correct in her claim that an energy weapon of some sort was used. All the concrete which falls outside the foot print avoids the narrow beam used to bring the building's down.

The assumption is that the energy weapon is a beam. It may very well be that is was a device that was placed in the buildings which is how they made it appear that the collpase was due to the hit the tower took.

Imagine you had a tower make of paper and then placed a tennis ball full of fuel near the top and then sett fire to the ball. As the ball fell it would destroy the building as it fell. just a thought!



posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 09:09 PM
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I would, If I were you, take the time and watch this "drivel"

www.thepeoplesvoice.org...



posted on Dec, 26 2010 @ 07:34 PM
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Regarding the alleged idenification of the flight 77 passengers: this from 9-11 Research:


Whereas victims of the World Trade Center attack were identified by civilian authorities, victims of the attack on the Pentagon (like those of the crash of Flight 93) were identified by military authorities. The Armed Forces Institute of Pathology issued a report in November of 2001 claiming to have identified 184 of 189 persons killed in the Pentagon attack.


911research.wtc7.net...



posted on Dec, 26 2010 @ 07:56 PM
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good one,imaginetive....I have same black ops team tossing drug grenade upon landing then mass burial....where did I see where Flt 77 and 93 on 9/11 were not actually flying,oh this conspiracy has the aircraft tail numbers shown assigned to 93 & 77 and those A/C are still in service.....what a "tail number" we weave when we set out to deceive. Aircraft Tail #'s are the VIN of airplanes.
I didnt buy into the truthers untill I read with my eyes that the buildings were insured days before 9/11.
More is there will never be a public trial of that master mind guy or the rest of them because all the truther evidence will come out and that would stand America on its head....think about it. Is there any proof that the people on those flights actually existed other than the Congressmans wife calling and the mother daughter conversation....could these have been "wag the dog" Ops I dont know but I have to say I was very in shock of the event and my eyes were rivited to CNN and was buying into everything thay were saying.......good thread and no hate mail please,,,,nobody knows the truth on this one



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 04:39 PM
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I'm not worried about you and what you THINK is real evidence. I'm not one of your sheep. As you can see on here nobody believes anything you say. It's just drivel. We KNOW the government is lying. The REAL evidence is there. The cut beams, the size of the hole, the missing tapes, the missing tail and wings, the radar being shut down, the planted evidence of a passport in excellent condition, the hired actors interviewed when the towers fell, THE EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS, the investigative reports by INDEPENDENT people which show scientific PROOF of a cover up, and then there is the money that was reported missing - MOTIVE, not to mention the war as well to make more MONEY. The list goes on and on. If you choose to walk by, fine, but don't tell me something isn't wrong here. You just choose to deny it. Just because you are so blind that you can't see it doesn't mean we are as shaded as you. BTW I have done plenty of research, and also researched the sources as well, so before you go running your gord, know who you are dealing with first.



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 06:46 PM
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posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 10:00 PM
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And people like you, with your blind faith in the goofy conspiracy theories are a bigger danger to our country than Osama is. Your myopic viewpoint keeps you from asking the right questions. You get so hung up on the falsehoods of the 'truth' movement, that you do not see the real issues. And in that, the flaws in our security that made us such an easy target that day, will never get fixed.
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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:00 PM
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Wow,just a little pushing match here or what? Conspiracy Theory or Conspiracy Fact ? how do we tell ? That is the grand question, For Sure. One has to evaluate both sides and I guess for me I have to weigh out and take a lot of consideration to just how much DISINFORMATION the act in question is putting out. Well, just how good is ones B.S. detector. Yep, just how far will I stake my very reputation on believe something? Isnt that the very million $ question. One thing is for sure. The US will never try in open public court the Sheik Moahammed Whateverthehellhislastnameis. The truthers have dug up too much info and if brought to open trial would dissolve the already fractured foundation of our once Great Nation. That is the very reason Gitmo is still open.
I would like to know where did the people go from the flights in question.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 02:59 AM
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People like me? Buddy you have no clue of what kind of person I am. I'm always out there standing side by side my brothers fighting for our liberties while you sit on your butt thinking that your making a difference. I'm sorry if you're not educated enough to see what is real and what is programed. I can't help you there. That is something you will have to learn on your own. Our government is CORRUPT! There is no ifs ands or buts about it. Think I'm wrong? Then you tell me WTH happened to our constitution. Why is everything to benefit the few and not the majority? It is a socialist ran government that can make anyone disappear like they did to all those people that day. If not making up scenarios, they just flat out murder innocent people to cover up their mistakes. As a born American, I think it's pitiful that we have let things go so far as to let the powers that be run around playing games with our country and our livelihood. All those people that were in the building DID exist. I can't say for sure about the ones on those planes and until I see THE FACTS I will never change my opinion on the matter. I don't trust my government for ANYTHING! I have an open mind and ask questions if I don't see the answers or if something doesn't make sense. I'm not afraid to speak my mind and ask those questions either. One thing I know is that if something isn't done soon we WILL be living in Well's 1984. I don't need your opinion. I have read several statements from professionals who do not agree with the result that we were fed. Now are you a professional investigator? Nah... didn't think so. One way or another the government is behind it because they want total control of everyone. The sad part is that while we are sitting here debating this they are out there causing more damage to our earth, our people and the universe in general. Can you live with siding with that? I can't.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 03:33 AM
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I would love to reply to this garbage but as I saw all your other posts on this I see that someone has already beat me to the punch. So did she see pictures of her friends arm that she buried or did she see it with her own eyes because she says both. One thing was live and her statement says different. Oh and the tail was not sitting in the grass or there would be tons of pictures all over the place. Hey what about the wings? Where are they? They couldn't fit in that hole so they have to be somewhere on the outside of the building. Which they were not. Common sense isn't so common after all... I do like how she throws in that she is a JFK researcher in there for effect. Which is totally irrelevant btw. So Bravo! Here is your check... I wonder where she is working now...



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 03:39 AM
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Furthermore...

Husband of Flight 93 Attendant: "Cell Phones Don't Work on a Plane ..."

shoestring911.blogspot.com...



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by SmArTbEaTzCell Phones Don't Work on a Plane


W00t? So i can no longer call home while waiting in the hold
Dammit



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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Falling for the lies and deception of the terrorist and traitorous "truth movement", I see?? (They are "Aiding & Abetting" the real attackers of 9/11, those in the so-caled "TM", with all of this crap they have been spewing for the last 9 years.....).

The link you gave, biased as usual.....obviously, the husband of Cee Cee Lyle had NO IDEA of the position and altitude of her airplane (and in this case, it is UNITED 93....which has nothing to do with the Pentagon, BTW).

Cee Cee Lyle called her husband at about 0958 EDT. There is a timeline chart of all calls for UAL 93, as well as a full discussion of the technology, and many anecdotal reports of others who have made "impossible" cell phone connections. BTW, for every call that made it thorough....we have no idea how many OTHERS were attempted by passengers, that DID NOT CONNECT!!!. Here's something for you to read: Mobiles At Altitude

When you're done with that, then THIS, in case you have never seen it (It includes INFO for AAL 77, too):

www.ntsb.gov...

GO especially to Page 10 (of the PDF), labelled "Figure 2". The DFDR graph of readouts. LOOK at the altitude, at the time 0958 EDT. The airplane was at 5,000 feet MSL (Mean Sea Level)!! Know what that means? Well, take a look at Google Maps, and notice what the terrain elevation is, in that part of Pennsylvania. THEN, you will be able to judge the airplane's approximate height above the ground at the time the cell phone call by Cee Cee Lyle was made. And, tell us how a cell tower antenna anywhere within range would not get at least a brief signal to that phone??


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posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 09:39 AM
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hello timothy please check your gmail account this is david.



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