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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by ANNED
Another one bites the dust.
You alway wonder how many lives these armed citizens save by shorting the criminal lives of these lowlife scum.
Times a gun has been used defence since Jan 2008:
2,602,323
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Originally posted by Ismail
Well I do find it kind of weird how some americans think it's ok to kill a guy for trying to steal their TV... It's kind of frightening because it shows how much some of you value life. (I.E. less that a TV, whats that, 100 $ for a good one ? )
Originally posted by Ismail
reply to post by Unit541
I'm just saying that the "shoot first ask questions later" seems to be a pretty irresponsible when the thing in your hand is made to kill. Warn the perp that you have a gun. Most people would just turn around and leave. Waiting in ambush as someone breaks down your door in order to get a clean head shot is plain criminal. If, once warned, the perp keeps on coming, then sure, plug him. But maybe not in the head. The point i'm trying to make is that I find nothing heroic about killing another man to protect your new stereo. Most burglars are there for the cash. Not to kill and rape. So glorifying the killing a man (which proves in any case how deconected with the reality of killing most of these gun whielders are) who will run away in the vast majority of case seems symptomatic of a sick wacko society.
Sorry to hear your story. Too bad no one was around to corroborate your side of the story.
Originally posted by AgentMoulder
reply to post by whitewave
Originally posted by Ismail
Well I do find it kind of weird how some americans think it's ok to kill a guy for trying to steal their TV... It's kind of frightening because it shows how much some of you value life. (I.E. less that a TV, whats that, 100 $ for a good one ? )
Originally posted by vor78
Originally posted by Ismail
Well I do find it kind of weird how some americans think it's ok to kill a guy for trying to steal their TV... It's kind of frightening because it shows how much some of you value life. (I.E. less that a TV, whats that, 100 $ for a good one ? )
Here's a simple rule: if you don't want to be shot, don't break into someone else's home. Its not that difficult to understand.
Originally posted by slicobacon
So, are you trying to tell me NONE of the bad guys in Briton have guns? Its my understanding that violent crime is much more rampant in Britain and the citizens are upset because they have been disarmed?
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Sorry you don't like the idea of Americans owning guns, but thats the way it is and most of us will fight to keep that right.
Oh by the way - I wish you luck if you do come across a gun armed bad news Brit.
Originally posted by Ismail
When you have a gun pointed at someone's head, and this person is not pointing a weapon at you, how is he threatening ? Why can't you just shout "Hands on your head, drop to the floor" ? Why shoot him ? And the vast majority of robberies are perpetrated for cash, not to rape and kill. Citizens with no training cannot appoint themselves officers of the law. Had this break-in victim been a policeman on service, he would have been charged for abusive use of his weapon.
Originally posted by JipStix
Fascinating thread!
I'm don't own a gun, but I really am looking into getting my license. I figured it's my right, why not exercise it.
I've grown up a liberal, but like a lot of people, reality has hit me across the face and 'woken me up' so-to-speak.
I've realized there's a whole lot of BS going on in this country, and around the world. Some of the ideals I've held have turned out to be baseless, and one such ideal was gun control.
I've realized you cannot stop criminals from obtaining guns, and that gun control only hurts regular people. I've also realized that our constitution is in very grave danger, as well as our rights, under the threat of tyranny from a larger and larger government. Now I have also realized that the 2nd Amendment is not only to protect onself and one's family, but also to guard as a last resort against tyranny.
I'm not really sure where to start though. I live in Massachusetts, which has some pretty harsh gun laws (I think), so I don't even know where to get a license or a firearm.
Should I join the NRA?
To the guy that said you don't have a gun violence problem in the UK. I recall reading a lot of stories from the Telegraph and the Star about knife violence being on the rise in Britain. I think that in the absence of guns, people will just find other weapons.
[edit on 26-1-2009 by JipStix]
Originally posted by Ismail
I have no problems with gun ownership. But keeping it in your bedside cabinet "just in case" is number one "fumble" for any responsible owner. In fact, I find it hard to believe that any responsible gun owner would have his gun within hands reach, loaded, and ready to use, as it was obviously the case for the maniac set as an example in this post.
I also find it hard to see how a responsible gun owner could actually have his gun ready during a break-in, which generally happens very quickly.