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Conservatives, do you want Obama to succeed?

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posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:07 PM
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Unfortunately you are correct, FOR NOW, thus proving how a large portion of the country feels. Conservatives are a dying breed. Once again, if I were a conservative I would tell Limbaugh to quit speaking for me, unless I were as big a bigot as he.
Check this link without laughing and thinking how Rush is right, and I will take you seriously. Otherwise you are on the same ignore list as Limbaugh with me.




posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:09 PM
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Sorry jam321, I did miss that underlying point.
OOPS, my apologies Sir/Madam.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:19 PM
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So Conservatives are tired of being labled racist...

Well, when your Messiah with "talent on loan from Goooooodddd"
talks like thisnewsone.blackplanet.com...

what do you expect. You lie down with dogs, expect to get a few fleas.

You can tell when Rush is on the oxy; his lisp is much more pronounced.
Just listen....

Rush wants Obama to fail and take us down with him. What does he care, he's got more more money than Gooooooddd.
Sean wants Obama to fail, Ann C....who knows what she wants, she's crazy. Savage....he's crazy too.


I listen to all of them until I get disgusted by their blatent racism and whining.



[edit on 25-1-2009 by whaaa]



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:20 PM
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Close minded people are a big part of the problems in the world. If you "could care less about his response to anything" then that just tells me that you would hate on the guy whether he was right or wrong. And your opinion isn't really valid if you don't even know what the guy said. Is everyone who disagrees with you a "racist, elite, idiot?

What Rush Limbaugh might or might not have said at other times, has no bearing on this topic right here. I've listened to him on and off for years and I have not heard him say anything to indicate that he is a racist. And even if he was, there is such a thing as free speech. Free speech is not just for closed minded people who think that they are the only ones who have the right to speak their mind.

Read what Rush said about THIS topic and then tell me what was wrong with it. Otherwise your opinion means nothing to me.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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I want the United States to succeed, and therefore, I am forced to wish Obama to fail.

He's a charmer to be sure, but charming won't get it done.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:30 PM
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There is nothing closed minded about me. I simply called it how it is. Limbaugh is a WELL DOCUMENTED, bigoted, racist, elitist. If he said water is H20 I would doubt it. Nothing personal, but I still could care less what Limbaugh says based on the ignorance he has already shown in so many other situations.
As for the thread topic, I hope OUR COUNTRY succeeds!!!! Not a single person.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:41 PM
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Just about every single one of the so-called quotes by Limbaugh were taken out of context. Especially about not caring about blacks because they are only 12% of the population. He was talking about not catering to special interest groups...which could include blacks, gays, feminists, Eskimos...etc. The Republican Party tends to view people as individuals, not part of special interest groups.

Also the "take the bone out of your nose" goes back more than 20 years...even before he was nationally syndicated...but if you want to hold on to that one...can Republicans hold Robert (KKK) Byrd (D) West Virginia responsible for his past also?


As far as criticizing Jessie Jackson and the NAACP...they deserve it. BTW didn't Jessie Jackson want to cut Lord Obama's nuts off?

They even are trying to pin "Barack the Magic Negro" on Rush....that originated with the liberal LA Times...not Rush.

Anyway 3 hours a day for 20+ years doing a radio program...I'm sure anyone can find at least 10 things to be offened by...this list was pretty weak.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by skeptic1
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Also, the success of our country does not hinge on Obama. I hate to say it, but it simply doesn't. It doesn't hinge on the President, no matter who it is.

The success of our country, or its failure, hinges on all of us....the President, the Federal government, State governments, local governments, and most importantly, us, the citizens of the USA.

I don't want Obama to fail, nor do I want his presidency to fail. But, instead of focusing on whether or not we want Obama to succeed or fail, we should focus on whether we want OUR COUNTRY to succeed......that success does not hinge on one man but on all of us as a whole.


This is what Iv been trying to convey here in part. I understand the last 8years made many americans untrust worthy of Washington DC and it is indeed a shame that every candidate is labelled as part of some vast anti-freedom conspiracy.. I dont think folks understand that we have been part of the problem.

Heck I supported Gore in 2000 and I didnt want Bush to win in 2004 at all (even though I had my own negative opinions about Kerry) so I could verymuch turn around and put all blame on those americans who voted them in but then again we all have to do our part regardless of who we voted for, so I believe that the american people as a whole should in part be blamed for this mess. Theres this blame all on the one individual in the whitehouse yet the majority of americans made it possible for some of these corrupt individuals to lie to us.

I did not want Bush to be president at all, I am a progressive and I dont think Ivn ever voted a conservative or libertarian, but as bad as Bush was, I stood behind him in 9/11 and his war on terror in afghanistan, and even with his lies on Iraq, this $200 million a day war, I had hoped by the least that he would bring this nation back in his re-election in 2004...

I want america to succeed under all presidents, right left or independent... I just find it amazing how there are some who wish doom on america under a president they happen to disagree with in ideology. Its just unpatriotic to be that way.

I remember in 2004 when you spoke out against the war, you used your right of freedom of speech, you were labelled unpatriotic... I mean as if we cannot question our government or our president on an obvious misleading war... these same folks are now saying these things. Heck 2000 was nearly as bad... I know the 2000 elections were controversial, trust me Im a liberal and I felt they were shame, nevertheless the start of the 2001 year I got over it and had hoped this president would further prosper this nation... I disagree with Limbaugh on many things but for petes sakes the man is a leader, very influencial and he is obviously in some way an ambassador to the core conservative base... is this how leaders are supposed to act?

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posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:53 PM
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You know, it's not exactly what he has said and how you can defend him, it's the attitude and beliefs behind him that spurs what he says. If I were ever to say anything like that on ATS, I would be banned without question, and rightfully so.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:55 PM
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Hey dooper what if you had a choice between the country prospering once again, americans have plenty of jobs again, the country safe once again all under an Obama administration, as opposed to the opposite under an Obama administration... would you care enough for your country, for your fellow americans suffering overseas or out of a job at home, to pick the first one... or would you rather let america suffer for another 4years all for the sake of belief?



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:56 PM
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Out of context....

How about these

politicalhumor.about.com...

some of em are pretty good... just goes to show that dope fiends can be funny too



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:59 PM
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Star for you whaaa. how can anyone defend the man (Limbaugh) unless they are under the same line of thinking?...



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:59 PM
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I am not going to defend or blast Limbaugh.....he's entitled to his opinion. And, the people who listen to him most likely share his opinions on numerous topics. And, he is not a leader. He is a talk show host. If people choose to view him as a leader.....well, that's their perogative. But, he is not a leader.....not in any real sense of the word. A mid-sized group of hard core conservatives may look up to him, but that does not a leader make.

But, when it comes to Obama's presidency succeeding or failing, overall, I want it to succeed. If it does, it will help the success of America.....but the success of our country doesn't hinge on the success of the President.

I don't agree with a lot of Obama's policies or ideas, and yes, I would prefer that the policies I don't agree with fail. I think they would be bad for this country. And, if those policies fail, that doesn't mean that his presidency fails. And, it doesn't mean that our country fails.

We should all want our country to succeed. And, we should all realize that the country's success does not depend solely on one man. It never has and it never will.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 11:09 AM
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Not wanting to whitewash Limbaugh but this surely must be on the same level as his behavior and the person concerned isn't white. The video is at the top of the link.

"The video shows an uncooperative Cofield continually interrupting state police Sgt. Dwight Washington, who was asking a series of questions while processing her on the DUI charge at the Glastonbury police headquarters.

At 2:17 a.m. on Oct. 10, nearly two hours into the booking at headquarters, Cofield is seated at a desk and calls her husband on her cellphone. Washington, who like Cofield is black, is standing about 3 feet away.

Her end of the conversation, in part, is: "I don't need a ride home. ... I'm a criminal. ... What? What? ... Well, they got the head n----- in charge and he … Which one, the head n----- in charge? … Washington. OK. That's H-N-I-G...."

Then she hands the phone to Washington, who talks to her husband about getting the car off the highway. Washington asks, "Do you guys have Triple-A?"

Hearing that, Cofield interjects: "Oh, no. We don't. We're ghetto Negroes. We don't have Triple-A."

The judge said what?

Read the post it goes on in the same vain. But what is

One of the more interesting comments made by readers is this one written by SadSingleBlackMo in Wallingford CT:

"I didnt want to believe it. I kept telling myself NO, it didnt happen or the media and everybody involved were just amping things up.

Then I watched the tape. Tears came to my eyes. I felt like I caught a boyfriend that I loved cheating on me. Tears of betrayl and rage. I didnt know this "thing" personally, but as a woman, as a black woman; role models are few and far between. I support sisters doing their thing no matter what. Glass ceilings smack me in the head everyday! Then this raggedy haired,wrinkly, mushed mouth, old coot has just set me and my two daughters, and every other black woman just trying to make a way and a better future back 200 years.

If I could see her face to face without the long arm of the LAW around I would slap the p**s out of her. I would slap her so hard her dentures would fly right out. Thats what that trooper should've done; if those other troopers weren't around and that damn tape wasn't running.

She should be shamed! She should do us a favor and just shoot herself.

Thank God for OPRAH and MICHELLE; at least I can tell my daughters to look up towards them. What am I supposed to tell my girls? Does anyone not comprehend the travesty this wretch has done? Life ain't hard enough, she had to pull this crap?

CT Why stated "A Drunk mans words are a Sober mans thoughts." That statement was and is nothing but the Gods HONEST truth!!! "

Comment

[edit on 27-1-2009 by Mynaeris]



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 11:24 AM
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President Obama can not possibly live up to the hype, seriously, who could?

As long as the man does the best job he can, I'll be satisfied. Will I hesitate to critisize the man if he screws up, no more than I did President Bush. That's my responsibility as a citizen of this country. I wish him well, but I'm not blindingly in love with him either...

...we'll see.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by Lanimilbus
Limbaugh is a WELL DOCUMENTED, bigoted, racist, elitist. If he said water is H20 I would doubt it.


So are 99% of all modern liberals! What is your point? If it wasn't for modern libs, racism would be almost dead in the U.S. but with libs pulling the race card every chance they get, because it is politically expedient for them to do so, it will never go away...at least not until modern liberalism is eradicated like the disease it is!

Obama is a far left socialist lunatic just like all modern left wingers (as opposed to classical liberals that are a dieing breed). But I want him to succeed in everything he attempts to cram down our throats. The massive suffering that will be the result of unchecked modern liberalism will be catastrophic for the country and for ordinary everyday Americans that are not brain dead libs. The way I see it, the more libs in power the better! That way they can no longer deflect blame to every body else and everything will fall right on them, right where it should be! This will result in such a massive backlash against modern liberalism that it will be effectively destroyed. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire and out of the ashes I hope to classical liberals the likes of Thomas Jefferson, JFK, and Teddy Roosevelt rise.

Once modern liberalism is destroyed in the U.S. the country will once again prosper just as it did before these cretins came along and reared their ugly heads in the early 50’s…which just happens to coincide with Operation Paperclip. No coincidence there!

So President Government, Good luck and may you succeed in all you do!



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by LiquidMirage

Originally posted by Lanimilbus
Limbaugh is a WELL DOCUMENTED, bigoted, racist, elitist. If he said water is H20 I would doubt it.


So are 99% of all modern liberals! What is your point? If it wasn't for modern libs, racism would be almost dead in the U.S. but with libs pulling the race card every chance they get, because it is politically expedient for them to do so, it will never go away...at least not until modern liberalism is eradicated like the disease it is!

Obama is a far left socialist lunatic just like all modern left wingers (as opposed to classical liberals that are a dieing breed). But I want him to succeed in everything he attempts to cram down our throats. The massive suffering that will be the result of unchecked modern liberalism will be catastrophic for the country and for ordinary everyday Americans that are not brain dead libs. The way I see it, the more libs in power the better! That way they can no longer deflect blame to every body else and everything will fall right on them, right where it should be! This will result in such a massive backlash against modern liberalism that it will be effectively destroyed. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire and out of the ashes I hope to classical liberals the likes of Thomas Jefferson, JFK, and Teddy Roosevelt rise.

Once modern liberalism is destroyed in the U.S. the country will once again prosper just as it did before these cretins came along and reared their ugly heads in the early 50’s…which just happens to coincide with Operation Paperclip. No coincidence there!

So President Government, Good luck and may you succeed in all you do!


Give it a rest, your ideology failed in the past 8. Bush is a failure and your party is a sham.

In fact your ideology failed with HOOVER as well, A big money CON, same thing different day.

Liberalism is a disease...
IF it was for the liberal spirit the world would still believe in a flat earth and burning witches, I'm glad you didn't manage to conserve that.

You guys have invited the military industrial complex into the drivers seat of our country. Modern cons didn't listen to ICKE...

And you are the folks who fly a certain separatist flag in your homeland. :loll: Not to mention the fact that yalls are swelling with racist crap/// BARACK the MAGIC NEGRO,
he's an , an ARAB...


By the way each generation is more liberal than the last, thats a fact. You fools hang on to to yer kooterisms in vein, yer POV will be dead in thirty years. You spend all yer efforts to stop the inevitable. All this hollering only to be changed without effort or fanfare, poor neocons.


Mine however will be fulfilled long after I am dead, its a liberal future unless you want to cleanse the earth of children. Oh wait thats me = librals


Good riddance

Go 4x4 some and feel better



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Succeed at what?

If you mean succeed at governing the nation through prosecuting successfully the war on terror, maintaining domestic tranquility, defending the Constitution of the United States, improving the economy, and other tasks that may arise during his term, then the answer is yes, I want him to succeed.

If by succeed you mean something else, then it would depend of your definition.


+1

Of course I hope he's successful in protecting the USA and getting the economy healthy. I don't hope he's successful in getting far left Supreme Court Judges appointed, transforming us into a Socialist economy, or setting a "progressive" agenda into place.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by BlueRaja
I don't hope he's successful in getting far left Supreme Court Judges appointed, transforming us into a Socialist economy, or setting a "progressive" agenda into place.



The only way to defeat it in the long term is to allow it in the short term. Once people realize what modern liberalism really is they will reject it...well, the intelligent ones will at least. The ones that are stupid will continue to support it but will do so from a marginalized position that nobody will listen to anymore.

You and I will have to sacrifice today so that our posterity can prosper. It's not unlike any other effort to defeat evil ideologies!



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by LiquidMirage

Originally posted by BlueRaja
I don't hope he's successful in getting far left Supreme Court Judges appointed, transforming us into a Socialist economy, or setting a "progressive" agenda into place.



The only way to defeat it in the long term is to allow it in the short term. Once people realize what modern liberalism really is they will reject it...well, the intelligent ones will at least. The ones that are stupid will continue to support it but will do so from a marginalized position that nobody will listen to anymore.

You and I will have to sacrifice today so that our posterity can prosper. It's not unlike any other effort to defeat evil ideologies!




Sounds like you are talking about the GOP in the first paragraph.

The thing is liberalism never dies, neither does your rotten ideology. Liberalism expands to meet the day and conservatism changes ( to its shagrin ) to keep pace pace with liberalism.

But I wonder about that personal responsibility you guys hustle. How is it that conservative policies have helped this nation in the past eight?

CEO pay has gone up 500% while the average wage have been flatlined for decades.
They PTB have finally outpaced the system that feeds them.

I also wonder how it is the two worst economic time periods in the US were ushered in by RICH ELITE cons?

I'm sure you will blame CLINTON and liberals... that easy and requires no inward thought, about on par with GOP ideology in general.

Good luck - next stop socialized medicine and homosexual spreaders.



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