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Hundreds of dead birds turning up in NJ

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posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by NightSkyeB4Dawn

How close is this to the area where the people were reporting a strange smell of maple syrup in the air?

Wonder if they are related.


Maple Syrup... me hungry now.
I have not heard that one.
Do you know the name of the town?!
Franklin is about 45min to an hour
south west of NYC.




posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by cluckerspud

Originally posted by NightSkyeB4Dawn

How close is this to the area where the people were reporting a strange smell of maple syrup in the air?

Wonder if they are related.


Maple Syrup... me hungry now.
I have not heard that one.
Do you know the name of the town?!
Franklin is about 45min to an hour
south west of NYC.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sorry I wasn't thinking clearly. Long day at work. I should have posted the link so here it is. Is it close?



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 09:55 AM
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wow, I can see how this one hit close to home on more than one level. 1st being that it really is close to home, and the second, well, look at yourself.


Please keep us updated, these are the things that can help us all if it really is an issue. the media will report exactly what they are told to report.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 10:09 AM
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West Nile usually does this when certain mosquito populations get out of control. This is from 2002, so obviously this isn't a new issue.

westnilemaps.usgs.gov...
This is a map of West Nile found in wild birds.



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posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 10:15 AM
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West Nile kills crows and can do so in big numbers.
This could be related to West Nile somehow.
Definately something to keep watch on.
(especially since we are just across the river!)



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 10:16 AM
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Hahaha, indeed I'm concerned.
I have my local news set to record on the DVR
for the evening and the morning edition.
There have been no updates as of yet.

It seems that the news reporters have made
many attempts to contact a few offices for
answers or an elaboration on their released
statement.

Have a good day Mike.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 10:20 AM
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Transhumanist terraforming? There are a few megalomaniacs with terminal hubris that could be behind this sort of events, all under a depopulation agenda.

That said, let's keep in mind that animals have natural epidemics, especially the ones that tend to live in very large groups, so this situation could be us making a mountain out of a molehill. There are probably hundreds of millions of birds in the NJ state area alone, despite the pollution.

I would follow the situation without fear, there are many possible explanations, not all of them as apocalyptic as the one I started this post with.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 10:34 AM
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I would hope that the issue is just as stated in the unconfirmed e-mail.
Definately better that the fish and game commission decide to cull the herd through poison than to have that much west nile killing those birds.

If people are cleaning dead birds out of their yards to the tune of 150 in one yard alone, this runs a serious risk of cross-contamination into the human population. Which would not be good, btw.

Definately one to keep an eye on. S&F clucker, good find.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by NightSkyeB4Dawn

How close is this to the area where the people were reporting a strange smell of maple syrup in the air?

Wonder if they are related.


I don't live around there, but apparently there is an ongoing issue with a maple syrup smell in New York City. Plus I found a page quoting a comment claiming the smell is from the new salt substitute to be used.



One commenter suggested, "That smell is coming from the New Salt Substitute about to be used on the streets by the Sanitation Dept. Salt has become to expensive, so they are trying this stuff which is Salt mixed with a chemical that smells like Maple Syrup." Which could make sense—but would this explain the previous smellings in past years?


Some people were worrying it was Northrax, a military chemical that smells like maple syrup.

I don't know. The theory it's a natural bird epidemic, or that it's West Nile make some sense to me. I do worry things are killing small animals, though. Bees, too. The smaller the creature, the more sensitive to what could also hurt us, right?



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posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Zepherian
Transhumanist terraforming? There are a few megalomaniacs with terminal hubris that could be behind this sort of events, all under a depopulation agenda.

That said, let's keep in mind that animals have natural epidemics, especially the ones that tend to live in very large groups, so this situation could be us making a mountain out of a molehill. There are probably hundreds of millions of birds in the NJ state area alone, despite the pollution.

I would follow the situation without fear, there are many possible explanations, not all of them as apocalyptic as the one I started this post with.


I hear ya. Birds are certainly susceptible to disease and sickness
due to our pollution etc. I think what is unsettling is that the town is:

1) given foreknowledge of the event. While it is appreciated, nothing
else is given to explain why they should be expecting thousands off
dead birds to clean up.

2) placing responsibility to the homeowners to clean up hundreds of birds
up, which runs a serious risk of cross-contamination into the human
population
(as noted by Jay-in-AR).

An explanation is in order, no?!
I'm sure the reasons for the dead birds can be chalked up to your
explanation, but it should not be open for assumption. Especially
not when a community can be at risk.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 10:53 AM
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Nice to see yet another NJ member. I guess it is time for "them" to start rounding up and killing all of the chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese and any other birds in NJ? Now we don't have to worry about the budget deficit.
Star flag

[edit on 26-1-2009 by Alpha_Magnum]



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by Alpha_Magnum
Nice to see yet another NJ member. I guess it is time for "them" to start rounding up and killing all of the chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese and any other birds in NJ? Now we don't have to worry about the budget deficit.
Star flag

[edit on 26-1-2009 by Alpha_Magnum]


Greetings from New Jersey.

We have GeeseBusters here!
One man... One dog... One Problem...

This dog makes more money than I do.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 11:18 AM
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Hopefully no one in New Jersey had a flu vaccine!!!!


Considering Flu Mist was PROVEN to have H5N1(aka Avian Flu) sewn into it.

FLU MIST CONTAINS 2 OUT OF 3 DNA PACKETS TO ENABLE H5N1 INTO A PANDEMIC STATE.



Now Birds are dropping dead? Hmm. Maybe it's just a coincidence.


Research it on youtube. I'm not good at posting links for vids, sorry!



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posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 11:19 AM
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Those Blackbirds are a problem here in the Hudson Valley Region of NY! Don't even waste money washing your car, they'll be covered in turd berries in no time. They've tried everything to get rid of them, even a truck that drives around with a PA speaker mimicking owl hoots, it's nuts! If NJ has figured out a way to get rid of them, please pay us a visit. I fear the disease these birds bring into the area!



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 11:23 AM
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It appears the birds are being poisoned, most likely by Avitrol to get rid of Black birds and Starlings.

News source that mayor states USDA stated a "culling"
www.mycentraljersey.com...&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

They should have told the community they were going to be doing this, not telling them only causes confusion and endangers pets, and possibly people.

Interesting is the link provided in the news story to the USDA about the incident is 404'd. Perhaps they know they made a big OOPS. That has my attention I will follow this to see what becomes of the story.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 11:24 AM
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How can a federal agency not be required to obtain an EIS that would provide the complete accounting to the public? Then the public would have an opportunity to respond at open forums. the USDA was 100% in the wrong deciding to poison these birds WITHOUT public notification. The NJ DEP and NJ Dept of Health are governmental agencies that must give the public notification prior to this type of action. the Federal Department of Health is also responsible for these prior notifications.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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Most certainly they avoided telling the public beforehand because they knew that the public would freak out about it. PETA type whackos.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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When such things in the UK happen, journo's usually turn to public health departments, or University's for specialist comment.

What are the local public health peeps 'saying' about this?

Is there an air of mystery surrounding this?

If it is bird flu, I find it hard to believe the authorities are not acting upon it.

Do the local news channels have a "special" reporter to do some fact-finding?

This would be on national news if it was in the UK.

Good luck with the outcome.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 11:34 AM
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threads about people becoming more agressive and now dead birds?
This sound a lot like the Condemned game

Condemned game

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posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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"What do they know.....?" .....government warning of mass death of birds...

......when friend ##snipped## investigated
the Mass Landing of the 23rd of
September 1996, where four residents of
Central Fife (pointing
delta-shaped into the North Sea above Edinburgh)
claimed they'd witnessed (after
watching a flying triangle in the sky)
hundreds of
different types of alien beings,
including four thirty feet tall beings, there
was coincidentally a sudden mass death of
birds all along the coastal crenulation of that
delta....connecting strange animal
deaths with ##snipped## reportage on
animal mutilations, ##snip##
phoned every concievable
authority, police, airports, etc., enquiring
about this, whereupon every single one of
them stonewalled her, refused to answer
questions, quickly put the phone down, all
this sort of stuff. She might have hoped to
have possessed samples to describe the
conditions of the bodies, but that is the
irony of trusting people you will speak to
on the phone....that wasted time, soon the
evidence was gone before her independent
analysis could assess any question of
linkedness....before ye diss this as bilge
speculation, two Portland, Oregon women
driving out from Portland in the January of
the following year, 1997, saw a flying triangle
followed by witnessing "one hundred small
alien beings watched over by one 30 foot
tall alien" in a forest they passed through, seen
from their car. An Idaho researcher is who
checked that out.
My thought is the aliens sucked
the blood out of their little bodies, aware that
livestock deaths were attracting too much
attention. Like the half-cat thing is that too. Is
that what the American government knows?
edit on Sun Jul 8 2012 by DontTreadOnMe because: personal info removed



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