reply to post by MilitieTempliSalmo
Sorry about the Conan thing, it's the only sword yielding movie personality I know of other than blade.
And you are correct, Willis and Wayne are pretty cool, but you left out Eastwood.
And to address the right even if it is wrong; it is not a question of whether or not it is right or wrong, if I concede one single right to my
government, they will surely take as much as they can get. These people, as history would dictate, do not know when to stop. Although I would most
likely own a few firearms if I didn't have grandchildren living with me, I am not particularly pro guns. I do however wish to be able to fend off an
attack on my family whether it be from a criminal or my own government. Lets be real for a minute, I understand you prefer blades and that is fine,
but the guy coming into my house be he criminal or government is going to prefer a firearm 99 times out of 100 and 100 out of 100 if it is government.
There is an old saying here; "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight."
I honestly mean you no discontent as you are probably a very decent fellow. But I am rather firm in my contention that my rights (whether or not I
choose to exercise them) be protected at all cost. Over the course of our "short" history, well over a million people have lost their lives
defending my "rights", I do not wish to soil their sacrifice by just giving them away without a fight.
We as a people in this country took on the world super power at the time to get these rights and by the looks of it, we may have to do so again to
And if I have confused you with the way I defended my country in this thread and speak poorly of my own government (could appear to be hypocritical)
let me explain the way I view a patriot vs. a false patriot. A patriot defends his country, a false patriot defends his government. Germany was full
of false patriots as is the USA right now; however, after Hitler fell, guess what Germany is still there. Long after the government here ceases to
exist, the country will remain. Governments throughout history have come and gone, but the countries remain. I love the United States; however, I
detest the manner in which government is trying to ruin it. I don't know where you live or what type of government you have there. Here it is
supposed to be of, for, and by the people. The government should not have power over the people it was intended to be the other way around, the same
thing with the Constitution and bill of rights. The government has zero authority over the Constitution.
This is how I see it, the people "created" the Constitution, the Constitution in turn "created" the government. This places the command structure
as follows. The people are above the Constitution as it was "created" by them and the Constitution is above the government as it was created by the
Constitution. The created can never be above the creator; however, there are people in this country (government) that simply do not understand this.
The government cannot take something away that its own creator granted. It's just that simple. If you believe in God, I am sure you understand that
God created man, and thus man has no authority over God. It is the exact same principle.
We are supposed to be represented by our elected officials. Represented does not mean they think for us, it means they speak for us. We are the brain,
they are the mouth. Unfortunately it has become completely disoriented in the last 30 years or so. Here is a good example; recently the American
people opposed the banking bailout and by an exceptionally high percentage (80%) yet the government did it anyway. This is NOT representation. We did
not hire these people to think for us, we hired them to be our voice. Every 6 months or so my representative sends me a pamphlet telling me of all the
wonderful things he has done for me, yet never asked me once how he should vote on the matters. It would be far less expensive to set up a web site
and post what the agenda for the upcoming session of congress is and ask how we want him to vote on each issue, tally up the votes and vote according
to the wishes of those he represents. His opinion means exactly two things, jack and squat. He is paid to voice what we say, not what he wants or
believes. Give the people all of the information regarding the issue and let them decide what to do, that is how "representation" works.
An elected official's only input to this should be the casting of his own vote on the website as he is afforded the same input as we are. It's not a
matter of what is right or wrong, what he likes or dislikes, what he believes or doesn't believe; it is a matter of what the people want, that is his
job. My opinion is this, if I work for someone and do the opposite of what they tell me I get fired, we need to start firing politicians. My guess
would be that after 50 or 60 get fired, the remaining politicians will get the big picture and conform to our wishes in order to keep their jobs. Our
problem is that as a whole we lack the gumption to do that which needs to be done. I am not suggesting a revolution, I am simply suggesting that we
fire the people that do not know how to do their jobs the exact same way we would be fired if we did not do what we were paid to do.
The last thing I am going to discuss is lobbyist. If there are any lobbyist at all this indicates that the politicians are following or could
potentially follow their wishes. Again this is not representing the people, it is representing the lobbyist's employers....FIRED! Lobbyist should not
be allowed at all, period. We live in a world of technology, the only thing needed to properly do the job is the internet or snail mail which would
incur huge costs. 2 or 3 people could easily run the web page for each representative which is FAR fewer people than they already use, thus saving the
taxpayers even more money. There are far too many outside voices being heard and nearly no voice being heard from the people as the banking bailout
would attest to.
Like I said I do not know how your country's government is set up or how it is suppose to operate, but that is how ours is "suppose" to operate,
and that is simply not the case.
We the people need to reclaim our country.
[edit on 1/28/2009 by DarrylGalasso]