Summoning demons/spirits, page 7
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reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 02:43 AM by special
reply to post by brownl


How did you rid of it haunting you in the end?
Yes this is the problem I think,getting involved with something you do not know alot about..I can not understand why someone would want to summon a demon for help anyway,as help would not come free,something would be expected in return....I got involved in a bit of white witchcraft when I were younger,but never ever wanted to summon any spirits of any sort...too scared..me!! I seem to attract them without any summoning anyway


reply posted on 21-4-2009 @ 03:33 AM by phoebeflakes
Originally posted by ladyspiritguide

Are you aware that among true magical (magickal) folk, we must obey the "threefold law"? (That what you send out comes back times three). Love, Hate, Envy, Compassion, send it out, Threefold it returns.



So maybe this is ridiculous of me, but with this threefold law....
If I put out a request, in hate, for something unpleasant to happen to somebody, could I make up for the effects that will return to me by making sure I've also put spells or supernatural 'requests' or whatever of love or good fortune on 2 or more other people?
Or is it pretty much guaranteed that you will get threefold the displeasure/misery in return in ways completely unrelated to the positive returns from the other spells so that you experience the full misery of it without the good effects masking or helping you cope with it?

Hypothetically..I have never tried magick and don't plan to so far....but was just curious about how that works, otherwise why would anyone practice any sinister type of magick, right? Some like pain I suppose....
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Anyway. For thoughts........
There's the whole theory that demons are just the spirits of hybrid beings (fallen angel + human) and their bodies were mortal, but spirits got loosed and trapped/confined to the earth, and have extra powers compared to a human spirit.
And that fallen angels are a completely different thing. Supposedly far more sinister and powerful. Supposedly.
I dunno what I believe there, it's probably impossible to know....
But it's probably also impossible to know, given the mischeivous or ill intentending, lying 'personalities' and different motives of various spirits out there, that you are indeed summoning something relatively harmless or completely sinister.
Therefore I wouldn't even try unless I was one of these crazy elite underworld worshippers with every morsel of forbidden knowledge that I keep hearing about and don't necessarily believe exist either...lol...

Point is....wouldn't try it. (Unless your life is pretty #ty and you're about 100% sure it couldn't get any worse with some nasty spirit leaching off your soul or pestering you regularly.
Even then, thinking our lives are as bad as they could get is often merely lack of imagination. )

K...Good luck with everything, whatever you do....


reply posted on 21-4-2009 @ 09:22 AM by DeltaPan
Hi.

I agree with those who say do not engage with summoning demons unless you have been guided to knowledge and have very strong connections with practises in white magick/occult arts.

I also fully endorse what MischeviousElf has been kind enough to explain.

I am not comfortable divulging much of this side of myself, seems when i do people always want to know too much about it and i do not encourage, not my place in this life to do so, but sufficed to say i've been born with certain 'talents' lets say, so have been a natural most of my life.

Before i was 21-22 years old, main battles etc aged 14-19, i had a very bad time with demonic forces which were very dark indeed and did their level best to subvert me to a path of darkness.

I prevailed, these days evil sees me and it runs.

I know full well though, too many take the forces of darkness lightly and try to summon and control dark demons to do their bidding.

Not going to happen without somebody being consumed and used as a tool for evil unless you have a lot of occult knowledge, which most cannot access, it's called occult for a reason.

Much of it isn't even written knowledge you read in a book, it's Astral knowledge which demands levels of practise achieved to even be aware of it and to reach the levels of the adepts, requires many years.

Summoning demons is not something you learn about for a few months from books, cast summoning spells and presto, a powerful entity appears to avenge your foes etc or lead you to powers or riches, those who do who are doing so from naivity as to the gravitas and potency in demonology and magick, will regret it, some worse than others, depends what has been invoked or summoned.

There are no shortcuts to acquiring the necessary knowledge and most are guided to it.

Not all demons are evil, all are tools on the physical plane of existence, we do use them because a balance needs to remain and many influences affect that balance, but the original poster wasn't speaking of engaging demons as to the machinations of other levels of existence, they were speaking of summoning to control.

As has been said, light or dark, those who know how to and still remain sane & alive, work with them, not the other way around.

In our creed we do engage demons for good reason or foul but wise people do not do so without much practise.

Channelling white demons using wiccan arts is safer than the Satanists demanding and forcing foul demons to endow them with power and riches.

Whatever, whoever, reach a level high enough to use protection magick correctly First and foremost and channel lesser demons for insight whatever, don't FFS invoke them to do bad things for you or summon them for power.

You've to be "Adept" before even thinking of it & even then it Will adversely affect your personality, turn you insane and megalomaniac and you die, then your energy in existence is theirs, those who do that are only obsessed with this life and being powerful, they don't care about their next existences and how different it is being owned by dark demons in the non corporeal planes above physical realms.

Don't fool with magick and occult arts before you know how and you aren't going to learn unless guided from an early age along that path, you know when you are guided and again, not exactly something you ask for, you have to have the right energies and mind & develop yourself with time & effort.

The crafts are not something you choose, more they choose you, a sort of quantum/temporal dynamics element.



People have said to me along my path, i wish i could do what you do and know what you know etc, my reply is usually, no you don't, you may think you do, but if what's in my mind and soul jumped into yours, it'd destroy you, mine has been a very hard path and i'm lucky to still exist, put it that way.



Evil may run a mile from me now, wasn't always the case.



I leave it there.


Paxus.






[edit on 21-4-2009 by DeltaPan]



reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 08:22 PM by randyvs
reply to post by mcs1627





Does anyone here know how to summon demons/spirits and ask them to help you??? (please only 'rituals' that are simple, and don't require any hard to find items)


Lets see here now then there.
You want it all and you want it your way. Interesting, I'll see what I can do.
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