reply to post by SkepticOverlord
its about bloody time
now how do i get a picture by my name
Civility And Decorum Are Required on AboveTopSecret.com, page 7
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reply posted on 30-1-2009 @ 08:47 PM by FredT
Originally posted by ZenaV
What's "ad-hominim" mean? It's prolly a stupid question but my dumb yahoo dictionary doesn't know either.
Not a stupid question at all. an Ad Hominem is a fallicy of logic often used in attacks on the poster rather than the topic of discussion. Its often used when one is no longer able to defend your position or Thesis:
An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form:
Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on person A.
Therefore A's claim is false.
The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).
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reply posted on 1-2-2009 @ 08:10 AM by theodorej
reply to post by Frankidealist35
Greetings ......There is no need to post disclaimers for exercising your right to vote....It is that right that has made this country great...The problem is, the need to have to identify with a party....If you are not in lockstep with the democratic agenda and, you don't support their choice of candidate for president.....then you made an independent choice to vote for a specific democratic candidate.......If you voted for Obama....share with us what he has done to win your vote....nothwithstanding all the wonderfull things he has said....
Greetings ......There is no need to post disclaimers for exercising your right to vote....It is that right that has made this country great...The problem is, the need to have to identify with a party....If you are not in lockstep with the democratic agenda and, you don't support their choice of candidate for president.....then you made an independent choice to vote for a specific democratic candidate.......If you voted for Obama....share with us what he has done to win your vote....nothwithstanding all the wonderfull things he has said....
reply posted on 2-2-2009 @ 12:13 AM by Unlimitedpossibilities
reply to post by GEORGETHEGREEK
That seems as though it would create an incentive to be nice, which is great.
Although, I think the point system now should suffice. If one adheres to belligerent and ad-hominem tactics when discussing or arguing, then points are deducted from what I have seen. So, when someone creates a nice thread or post, they are rewarded by not having any points deducted, thus keeping the points that they were entitled to by the particular threads or posts.
[edit on 2-2-2009 by Unlimitedpossibilities]
That seems as though it would create an incentive to be nice, which is great.
Although, I think the point system now should suffice. If one adheres to belligerent and ad-hominem tactics when discussing or arguing, then points are deducted from what I have seen. So, when someone creates a nice thread or post, they are rewarded by not having any points deducted, thus keeping the points that they were entitled to by the particular threads or posts.
[edit on 2-2-2009 by Unlimitedpossibilities]
reply posted on 3-2-2009 @ 10:05 AM by SS,Naga
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
Excellent devolution process. ATS should adopt it...oh, it already has.
Excellent devolution process. ATS should adopt it...oh, it already has.
reply posted on 8-2-2009 @ 04:52 PM by hardeeboy
reply to post by SkepticOverlord
I agree 100%, I never understood myself why people today have to be so hostile about things, I think a lot of them assume that they have freedom of speech and can say what they want and they are protected or either they just don't care.
I see this a lot on newspaper website forums especially on topics of politics, it gets real nasty and people use computer slang profanity so the profanity key word checker won't pick it up.
Also a lot of people have had their IP address banned which I think should be done. It's good to know that you guys are trying to keep the trouble makers out. Keep up the good work and I'm behind you all the way.
I agree 100%, I never understood myself why people today have to be so hostile about things, I think a lot of them assume that they have freedom of speech and can say what they want and they are protected or either they just don't care.
I see this a lot on newspaper website forums especially on topics of politics, it gets real nasty and people use computer slang profanity so the profanity key word checker won't pick it up.
Also a lot of people have had their IP address banned which I think should be done. It's good to know that you guys are trying to keep the trouble makers out. Keep up the good work and I'm behind you all the way.
reply posted on 10-2-2009 @ 12:53 PM by ECWSANDMAN13
reply to post by SkepticOverlord
Finaly order... i m not going to say that ive been entirely cival (i havent) but im glad that common sence is now mandatory
Finaly order... i m not going to say that ive been entirely cival (i havent) but im glad that common sence is now mandatory
reply posted on 16-8-2010 @ 04:47 PM by wcitizen
reply to post by SkepticOverlord
Thank you - and thank you to the mods. I really appreciate that you intend to hold firm the parameters of courtesy and decorum on ATS, so that the best use can be made of this space to discuss, explore and learn together.
I've been on other sites where 'anything goes' and it was frankly awful and impossible to continue. I'm glad you're not prepared to let that happen to ATS.
SkepticOverlord, I think your observatioons as to why this is happening are spot on. Part of the Agenda seems to be to reduce as many people as possible to 'rabble' and 'mob', and I like the fact that in itself not falling for that trap is an act of resistance.
As more people become aware of the truth of what's going on, they will almost inevitably go through a period of shock and anger...so it's absolutely great that this is a place where spirited emotions can be expressed, at the same time as it being a learning opportunity to do so without descending into bullying and abuse. That makes it safe for more people to come and express their thoughts, concerns and ideas.
Basically, I really appreciate what you're doing because it makes ATS an exercise in creating together more of what we want to see in the world. To me that's an added and incredibly valuable function to fulfill.
And I'm really glad that trolls are getting short shrift!
Thank you - and thank you to the mods. I really appreciate that you intend to hold firm the parameters of courtesy and decorum on ATS, so that the best use can be made of this space to discuss, explore and learn together.
I've been on other sites where 'anything goes' and it was frankly awful and impossible to continue. I'm glad you're not prepared to let that happen to ATS.
SkepticOverlord, I think your observatioons as to why this is happening are spot on. Part of the Agenda seems to be to reduce as many people as possible to 'rabble' and 'mob', and I like the fact that in itself not falling for that trap is an act of resistance.
As more people become aware of the truth of what's going on, they will almost inevitably go through a period of shock and anger...so it's absolutely great that this is a place where spirited emotions can be expressed, at the same time as it being a learning opportunity to do so without descending into bullying and abuse. That makes it safe for more people to come and express their thoughts, concerns and ideas.
Basically, I really appreciate what you're doing because it makes ATS an exercise in creating together more of what we want to see in the world. To me that's an added and incredibly valuable function to fulfill.
And I'm really glad that trolls are getting short shrift!
