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150,000 foreigners swell UK workforce: Record number get permits as Britons lose jobs

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posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 04:57 AM
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Originally posted by stewartw2
You mean Yobs are having this discussion.......get real, what can you possibly 'do' about it-start a home bred Nazi revolution, have a coup, create a dictatorship...didn't you guys fight those people tooth and nail.
Like there is something you can 'do' about without completely trashing all British traditions anyway.

No, not yobs! That's the fascinating thing about this. Stereotypes are being trashed. Previous 'left-wingers' (myself included) are starting to display somewhat conservative viewpoints. Your middle-class, Labour voting neighbour is now chatting casually with neighbours about their concerns. And no, we're not Nazis and we don't want a dictatorship. Protecting the wellbeing of one's country doesn't have to be exremist, hateful or fascist. Hopefully what will happen is that protest-votes for the BNP will wake up the mainstream parties to the concerns of its people and policies will be changed accordingly. If there was a Nationalist Party (BNP) uprising, it would be the ignorance of LibLabCon which is to blame


Originally posted by stewartw2
Cythraul.................I live in Australia and there are one million poms here!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I swear I find them the most irritating immigrants of all and for good reasons-should I ban them coming?-you can't have it both ways-go to other peoples countries but not let others come to yours.

That's fair enough. Do what you've gotta do. If Australia decides they want no more Brits, fair enough. I wouldn't blame you for looking out for your own interests. I don't intend to emigrate and neither do most people who care about the well-being of Britain. Anyway, the issue of 'Poms' in Australia is a special case seeing as most of you are descended from us.


Originally posted by budski
One thing is for sure - it's time to put a stop to uncontrolled immigration and that may be the one good thing that happens in these harsh times.

Absolutely!




posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by stewartw2
A pom who was in Australia for ONE WEEK rented an apartment in the building where I have owned an apartment for a decade (also my family goes back 170 years here)-a week later I get a knock on my door, its the Pom-complaining that he thinks I am not lifting my weight and doing my bit for the upkeep of the building on account of the fact he did not see put out the garbage in his four days living there, and I should shape up or ship out!

What can I say, there are irritating gits in every shape, colour and nation
. Your personal run-ins with poms goes slightly beyond the point of this discussion. I'm not (and haven't so far) complained about the character of immigrants to Britain. My perspective is pragmatic rather than emotionally-driven.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
The game to this? The explanation? Well I have an idea on this and it's a conspiracy theory for sure. The government over here in the UK is Labour. Well I once read that 60 to 70% of ethnic minority voters tend to vote Socialist time and time again. By letting more and more in surely Labour are cementing their future hold over the UK. The more ethnics the more they get votes.



This is an interesting point- I think there may be an element of truth to this, although it isn't the only reason for the govt abandoning our borders.

Two other major reasons are it pleases big business with, allegedly, cheap labour, and secondly, Labour is basically a bunch of frustrated marxists who hate Britain and everything about it (culture, history etc)- regardless of their recent bizzarre public displays of Britishness


This old storm is just brewing

news.bbc.co.uk...

[edit on 30-1-2009 by blueorder]



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:09 AM
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As a liberal (by nature - not by support of the party) myself I have thought long and hard about this, and I can only come to the conclusion that uncontrolled immigration is going to bancrupt the country (if brown doesn't do it first)

You are right that stereotypes are being trashed - but that's what was bound to happen as Blair/Brown overturned traditional labour values.
Publicly they have quite a right-centre stance whilst privately it was the old tax and spend - and this is what has made people lean more towards the tories, and in some cases use the BNP as a protest vote.

We've also had the ridiculous state of affairs where if people expressed concern over immigration, they were immediately branded racists in oone of the most disgracefull and damaging smear campaigns ever.

This has been my problem with "new" labour - long on spin, short on substance, and now, as far as immigration is concerned, the hens are coming home to roost.

It may be too little too late, but on that we shall have to wait and see.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by Cythraul

Originally posted by stewartw2
Anyway, the issue of 'Poms' in Australia is a special case seeing as most of you are descended from us.
Absolutely!


Yeh, that makes them all the more irritating and not 'lost in translation'.
They prance around talking to you like they are Governor macquarie and you are a convict-they have this sneering attitude-and worst of all:
They go on about how much they don't like foreigners, and think they have some kind of exemption from the category of immigrant!
My own family has been here for about seven generations and I had an ancestor who was a founding member of the NSW Parliament-my ggg-grandfather also founded Castlemaine brewery: an Icon-yet all that said through mixing I am only partly Anglo and look foreign-hence Pom immigrants (but rarely Australians) treat me like a foreigner HERE!
Honestly I hope Pakistani immigrants are making your skin crawl and are taking over suburb by suburb!

[edit on 30-1-2009 by stewartw2]

[edit on 30-1-2009 by stewartw2]



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:14 AM
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And where did your family come from originally?

No-one is advocating a total ban on immigration but things are getting so bad over here, foreign companies are discriminating against British workers to employ foreign labour who are ignoring all health and safety regulations.
This is not being reported by any tv stations.

This is real and happenning now!
www.timesonline.co.uk...

Every day we hear stories of thousands of redundancies yet here WE are being discriminated against in our own country!

[edit on 30/1/09 by Freeborn]



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:17 AM
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Originally posted by stewartw2
Yeh, that makes them all the more irritating and not 'lost in translation'.
They prance around talking to you like they are Governor macquarie and you are a convict-they have this sneering attitude-and worst of all:
They go on about how much they don't like foreigners, and think they have some kind of exemption from the category of immigrant!
My own family has been here for about seven generations and I had an ancestor who was a founding member of the NSW Parliament-my ggg-grandfather also founded Castlemaine brewery: an Icon-yet all that said through mixing I am only partly Anglo and look foreign-hence Pom immigrants (but rarely Australians) treat me like a foreigner HERE!
Honestly I hope Pakistani immigrants are making your skin crawl and are taking over suburb by suburb!
[edit on 30-1-2009 by stewartw2]



What an idiotic comment at the end- hope you "experience" diversity at the hands of some immigrant pal



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:19 AM
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About say 40% from the UK, the rest Italian and a drop of native (aboriginal)-all mixed together and I look rather swarthy.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:20 AM
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Originally posted by stewartw2
About say 40% from the UK, the rest Italian and a drop of native (aboriginal)-all mixed together and I look rather swarthy.


well then hope a nazi moves in and makes your skin crawl



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:22 AM
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Sydney is pretty diverse-really! Its really only the Brits and Irish that bother me. They have an attitiude that somehow this country owes them!



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:23 AM
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Funnily enough some years back an actual real life BNP supporter who had become an innigrant to get away from them did move right next to me -we were mates and got along fine!



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by stewartw2

Honestly I hope Pakistani immigrants are making your skin crawl and are taking over suburb by suburb!



How old are you?
You left Primary school yet?

I suspect you look closer to home;
en.wikipedia.org...

Don't think this had anything to do with Poms.

Or here
www.smh.com.au...

I suggest you put your own house in order, like we are trying to, before commenting on other's troubles.
People in glass house and all that!



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by stewartw2

Sydney is pretty diverse-really! Its really only the Brits and Irish that bother me. They have an attitiude that somehow this country owes them!



You realise that is no different than someone in the UK saying that about the muslims and pakistanis, basically I am saying you are just an neo Aussie BNP man, how do you like the sound of that



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by stewartw2
They go on about how much they don't like foreigners, and think they have some kind of exemption from the category of immigrant!

Well it's true that they are no more 'immigrant' than your Anglo ancestors were.


Originally posted by stewartw2
through mixing I am only partly Anglo and look foreign-hence Pom immigrants (but rarely Australians) treat me like a foreigner HERE!

I get the feeling that this has something to do with your emotional reaction to this issue. But even if the poms there ARE bigotted and prejudice, they don't represent all Brits. You must realise that. As I said before, there are idiots in every shape and form - not just white British. Besides, your dislike of poms has nothing to do with this discussion because no-one's talking about hating immigrants in Britain.


Originally posted by stewartw2
Honestly I hope Pakistani immigrants are making your skin crawl and are taking over suburb by suburb!

How nice of you. You clearly have an extreme prejudice against poms - hence why I must conclude that you're the only one with a genuinely racist attitude in this thread. You'd like to see us all suffer simply because you've had an unfortunate experience with a few poms residing in Aussie? Do you see how ridiculous that is? Do you think ALL poms are horrible people and deserve to suffer?



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:27 AM
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Originally posted by stewartw2
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Sydney is pretty diverse-really! Its really only the Brits and Irish that bother me. They have an attitiude that somehow this country owes them!


Britain is very 'ethnically diverse'.
I really couldn't give a toss about a person's race and skin colour.
This is not about race, please read the whole thread and I'm sure you will have a greater understanding of our concerns.



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder

Originally posted by stewartw2
About say 40% from the UK, the rest Italian and a drop of native (aboriginal)-all mixed together and I look rather swarthy.


well then hope a nazi moves in and makes your skin crawl


I might add I don't 'hate' people with your attitude I just realise they are stupid and have been sucked into a moronic way of thinking and there is little I can do or say to help them. Working class cannon fodder deluded that they are the vanguard of British society. Perhaps you should go back to yuor left-wing roots and read up a bit of Marx-British workers should feel kinship with Polish workers and both should feel resentful of lazy parasites like the Royal family!



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by stewartw2


I might add I don't 'hate' people with your attitude I just realise they are stupid and have been sucked into a moronic way of thinking and there is little I can do or say to help them. Working class cannon fodder deluded that they are the vanguard of British society. Perhaps you should go back to yuor left-wing roots and read up a bit of Marx-British workers should feel kinship with Polish workers and both should feel resentful of lazy parasites like the Royal family!



pathetically oafish and incorrect assessment of everything, way to go Aussie BNP guy



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
Britain is very 'ethnically diverse'.
I really couldn't give a toss about a person's race and skin colour.
This is not about race, please read the whole thread and I'm sure you will have a greater understanding of our concerns.


the guy doesn't even know what he is arguing, not racist but tars "poms" and paddies with the same brush, waffles about marx (tell that to the tens of millions of dead workers in the former soviet states, china etc)

Sounds like a kid with issues about his heritage who is trying to be a bit "different"



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:34 AM
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What, no comment on the race problems which Australia has that has absolutely NOTHING to do with Poms?

This has nothing to do with race!

Did you look at the link about Immingham power station or are you just shooting from the hip and not even making an effort to understand our viewpoint?
Deny ignorance or preach it?



posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by Cythraul

Originally posted by stewartw2
They go on about how much they don't like foreigners, and think they


Seriously I spent years in the UK and rather like the English as a whole-I don't like the ones that come to Australia, a certain type seem attracted to this place-sadly. I also don't like the ones that go on with the Daily Mail stuff all day long-not the ones that just agree with guys like you at the pub and don't really give a toss (because you are right : that might well consitute a majority of the population)-but the ones that are really wedded to this 'little England' style racism.
it is BS, boils down to class, the Aristocracy screwed you people (assuming you are not upper middle class) fore centuries and now you pick on the Poles-wake up and smell the tea, and see who really stuffed you up.............hint: it isnt the Pakistani family down the road!




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