150,000 foreigners swell UK workforce: Record number get permits as Britons lose jobs

Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by drwizardphd

 

The game to this? The explanation? Well I have an idea on this and it's a conspiracy theory for sure. The government over here in the UK is Labour. Well I once read that 60 to 70% of ethnic minority voters tend to vote Socialist time and time again. By letting more and more in surely Labour are cementing their future hold over the UK. The more ethnics the more they get votes.

I don't understand,the op was about people from outside the E.U. coming into Britain to work.What the hell has that got to do with the labour party recruiting voters.These people are not allowed to vote in this country.
It's the greedy bosses who gain from all this,where i work (in london) 7 out of the 10 positions are filled by Brazilians and they get paid about £3000 a year less than the 3 of us who are british citizens.They are good hard working guys who stay for 3 to 5 years then go home with enough money to buy or build a house,they pay taxes here and contribute to the economy

Originally posted by infinite
..or this year

Rumours are that Brown might resign in order to restore confidence in the economy. If he had any sense of decency or chivalry left towards this nation, the Labour party would hold an election now.

If only! Brown is a totalitarian control freak who looks like he'll cling on for as long as possible, regardless of the damage he has done. He waited 10 years for this, I don't see him falling on his sword.

Originally posted by infinite
With a new governing party being elected, it is certain that some confidence will be restored to the economy and an end to wasteful spending on big government. Investors will countermand their recent actions and Sterling can stop falling.

Unlike Labour, the Tories have designed a strategy to restore the nation finances to manageable and productive levels. This is a fundamental key in order to build confidence once again.

Agreed. The Tories have had a plan that looks workable for a while and people seem to believe them. The answer to a problem caused by excessive borrowing is not to borrow more!

Unfortunately, Labour only do one thing. It's an old one but still true...

TAX AND SPEND, TAX AND SPEND

Originally posted by ho chi minh
They are good hard working guys who stay for 3 to 5 years then go home with enough money to buy or build a house,they pay taxes here and contribute to the economy

They must be skilled workers to be allowed to stay for that long legally, in which case they are not the problem as they represent a minority of the flood of people coming into the country from outside the EU. Do you mind me asking what work your involved in?

It's the cash in hand, illegally here from Somecrappystan workers that are the problem. They undercut even the mimimum wage, will happily live in cramped, cheap accomodation, pay no taxes and send all their money home. There are litterally hundreds of thousands of these illegal workers here in the UK.

Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by solidshot

 

In urban area's, the change is quite noticeable.

For example, I lived in central Reading for 10 years up until last year. I finally had enough, so moved to Wokingham which is a nice market town 7 miles from Reading.

The difference in ethnic make up is stark.

In Reading, it is "spot the Englishman". In Wokingham, the only ethnic people you see only work their as cleaners etc and leave at the end of the day on the bus to Reading!

The Government should make real efforts to round up all illegals, anyone claiming asylum from countries deemed safe and anyone attempting claim asylum coming from the continent and send them back without all this "Human Rights" parlavor which goes on.

Just get a big ship, fill it with people and send them buggers back, they don't add to the nation they just take. Any cash they earn is "tax free" as it is illegal and they send the majority of it to their own countries, removing wealth from the UK.

[edit on 25/1/09 by stumason]

Well that's the spirit that what made this country great eh?
get a big ship and round them up?
sounds a bit like the old slave ship days
why don't we just gas them or something

reply to post by ho chi minh


They shouldn't be here in the first place and they should go home. It was a tongue in cheek comment anyway, don't take it so seriously.

What I said is not even comparable to either the Holocaust or the Slave Trade, so don't even try to to twist my words.

If anyone wants a quick way to protest this it might be a good idea to build a list of companies who employ large numbers of foreign workers and boycott them. They do it to save money and not giving them your money is the best message you could send them and likely the only one they will understand. Yeah I'm aware people say that boycotts don't work but as someone who owns my own business I also know every $ counts and doing something is better then doing nothing.

[edit on 25-1-2009 by Jacob08]

reply to post by stumason


yeah and my comment was tongue in cheek,you do sound a bit like an old school"send the b*stards back" cabbie though...

I just don't understand why people think the "Labour" government is left wing. I was out of the country when they got in and spoke to a friend back home who expressed delight at the coming change.

I said, "you'll barely notice the difference. It'll take them less than two years to get their noses in the trough."

Sure enough, the slow and steady business of privatising everything in sight has continued. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against privatisation per se, I just think there has to be enough regulation in place to protect people from the rapacity of corporations.

Sure enough, on the pretext of "not having enough money", the PFI initiatives (which bear startling similarities to Italian public finance under Mussolini, I understand) have ensured that money is sucked out of the country more efficiently than ever.

And I agree with those who've said that it's all part and parcel of rendering the population cowed and focused on survival, and set against each other. Divide and rule.

lol, how about you pay my 1 and a half hour travel costs by the profiteering joke of a public transport system 5 days worth!, and compensate me for the 1 working days worth of wasted time getting to and from the job, i'd take any job going , if not then i dont see it unreasonable to expect a job to be available in MY home town, in MY country, its quite obvious that the government doesnt give a rats ass about us, especially went you wont fall for the GET YOURSELF SCREWED IN DEBT HIGHER EDUCATION ROUTE yay us common brits cant see that coming as were too simple from years of doing menial jobs, nice car by the way i was thinking of learning myself, the nice clever man says it will only cost about £3000 to learn , about a couple more grand for a clapped out first banger, plus extra fork outs for insurance and tax, but you get the added bonus of using "cheap" eco friendly, renewable, highly technologically sophisticated renewable fuel, i think its called Petroleum it really is very clever, im just amazed at what these scientists come up with, Im so exicited about living in this wonderfull age of innovation and awareness

They want immigration so Christian and Jews are next door to Muslims, Muslims next door to Hindus, Hindus next door to Budhists and so on so that once these cities have become like the world, once Hindus start ranging war against Muslim extreamism and once Gaza and Israel and bosnia starts all over again, it won't be a war that is fought in their own country but your own. They let this happen so that society will have all the worlds problems on their door step which will help speed the process up for an more restricted freedoms as we poltically kill our selves to death.

Its all part of the devils plan as Babylon sits on many waters, they will bring chaos and more hate where you live because the worlds problems will be on your door step with an excuse to control the chaos for which they created.

[edit on 25-1-2009 by The time lord]

Originally posted by drwizardphd
It's like the British government is looking at how badly illegal immigration is hurting the US and is getting jealous.

I agree. I feel your pain over there. It's even worse here. We have ILLEGALS here breaking our economy and sucking up jobs that those on welfare should have. But you all ... your gov't is handing them permits. Geeeze .... it's suicide for any country to be doing this.

reply to post by drwizardphd

There must be some game to this. Somehow the government gains from having so many of its populace out of work. I don't pretend to understand how the British government works, but there must be SOME explanation (seedy or not) behind such a surprisingly bad decision

PROBLEM = High unemployment home repossessions etc. Excessive numbers of immigrants, legal or illegal taking up low paid jobs and settling for poor work conditions and the abuse of the benefits system.

Reaction = Tension created and higher number of incidents involving hate crimes, specifically directed at ethnic religious minorities. An increase of incidents of fundamentalist displays of frustration through marginalization.
Terror alerts increased to fuel the fire and increase the direction of tension toward Islam.

Solution = Compulsory introduction of National ID card, under the pretense of tracking and deporting illegal immigrants, monitoring the movements of religious extremists. Abolition of the minimum wage,unemployment benefit etc.


Just my brief ten cents worth hope I'm completely wrong and talking through my arse.

"Well that's the spirit that what made this country great eh?
get a big ship and round them up?
sounds a bit like the old slave ship days
why don't we just gas them or something"

Well what do you suggest, the situation now is unbearable we need to do something drastic, a massive roundup of illigals would be a good start, and yes i would put them on a ship back home and i would have no remorse in doing that.
As for Brown he is doing this on purpose, the same "bailout" packages are happening all round the world, its just a legal way of giving money to the companies, who his old boy friends and relatives have shares in.
We are on a sinking ship and this labour rabble are causing it.
GET THEM OUT NOW!!!!!

reply to post by solidshot


Great Britains population is currently around 65million people which makes the 150,000 just a drop in the ocean.

You also fail to take into account the hundreds of thousands of brits who go and work abroad presumerbly taking someone elses job!

since the majority of Britain is English/Scotts/Welsh its hard to see how this dilution could occur.

During the transition of power From the People to the NWO oligopoly, those in high places were suddenly 'replaced' with those of 'another' or has it not happened? Do we have 'figures'?

Dissident is Here, one once said?

What made him say something like that?

Are you Not 'dependent' on the products of the 'State'?

Sovereignty you say young man. Did you hear that fellas.

A whole room of 'fellows' bellowed in laughter.

Yet they were not so sincere.

It was wrong.

Juries out as to what they ultimately Chose to do with 'their' fate.

[edit on 25-1-2009 by Perseus Apex]

reply to post by Cauch1

IMO The government are trying to crash the pound. nobody in england wants
the euro. kill the pound. start again with the euro. its the easiest way for them to get us to accept the euro.

I'll be voting fourth party again this year,dont trust labour,the tories or the liberals...bunch of scumbags the lot of them.If only British people had the backbone of the icelanders

New Labour, The Tories & David Cameron are in the Rothschilds back pocket. If the Tories win the next election, nothing will change and they will simply continue where New Labour left off, with the same agenda, which is to leave this country completely broke, ready for assimilation into the EU.

Tories - Bought & paid for.
The Conservative party faced demands last night to repay a huge loan from a member of the Rothschild banking family made through a company set up with the sole purpose of protecting her anonymity.

An Observer investigation has found that the party has benefited from a £1m loan from Lady Victoria de Rothschild, made via a 'non-trading' company that conducts no business and has had no other function in its four-year history than to lend the Tories money.

Documents filed with the Electoral Commission show the party received the loan for £1,014,000 from a company called Ironmade Ltd on 1 June 2005 and is not due to pay it off until 2010.

Ironmade's accounts reveal the firm has been dormant since it was created in April 2005. According to the accounts, 'the ultimate controlling party of the company is Victoria, Lady de Rothschild, by virtue of her control of the entire issued share capital'. Prior to the loan, de Rothschild gave the party almost £130,000 via a series of donations made between 2002 and 2005 under her own name.

Legislation barring anonymous loans, and those from non-trading companies, was introduced in 2006, after the de Rothschild loan was made, so the Tories can legitimately claim all parties were acting within the law.

www.guardian.co.uk...

finalconflictblog.blogspot.com...

The only thing that will save this country is for the majority to vote for the UKIP Party and that's never going to happen. We are screwed!

wow this is a real good example of the government pretending to fail and the elites to spark civil unrest after all divide and rule is a game thats been played for centuries. Do you honestly think gordon brown thinks that bringing in more foreigners in will sort out the recession? The problem isnt the amount of workers there are but the amount of jobs that are available and Brown knows this but is pretending to fail to cover up another agenda. Wake up people, these tricks have been pulled for far too long!

reply to post by kindred


i totally agree, but the problem is if you support UKIP then you are automatically labeled a "racist" and "right wing". This is the left wing right wing paradigm David Icke talks about. They use the left wing to play their part of corruption too.