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150,000 foreigners swell UK workforce: Record number get permits as Britons lose jobs

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posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 04:34 AM
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Originally posted by stumason
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Right Wing parties are actually much more popular in places such as Austria, France, Belgium and the Netherlands. In each of these countries, Far-right groups which are more extreme than the BNP actually hold Parliamentary seats. In the case of France, one far right party successfully got a candidate into the final round of the Presidential election.

Far-right politics have never been that popular in the UK. Even during the Great depression and the run up too WW2, the fascists struggled for widespread support.


Could you elaborate which party in the Netherlands is more extreme than the BNP? It seems that far-rights groups are gaining support all over Europe these days, but I wonder how you could consider the BNP 'less extreme' than for instance the People's Party of Freedom in the Netherlands.




posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 04:40 AM
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Originally posted by solidshot

As i see it one of the reasons they are allowing so many into our country is to water down the population and help reduce the anti EU feelings within our country so when they go to enter the euro ect there will be less resistance


In fact, I don't see the problem. Obviously, there is work indigenous don't want to do and so they should not complain about unemployment, as well as start blaming foreigners who actually are willing to do the work.

In the Netherlands, we have many foreigners working in the agrarian sector because natives prefer to stay in bed with an unemployment benefit. Sorry, but I don't feel sorry for these lazy people.

[edit on 25-1-2009 by Mdv2]



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 04:51 AM
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The UK unemployment statistics are considerably bleaker than the official figures suggest. Signing on interviews at local Job Centres have recently been cut from 10 to 5 minutes as staff struggle to cope with the numbers of new applicants. Some Job Centres have seen their signing on load double over the last few months & are now opening on Saturdays simply to keep pace, some offices have run out of signing on times altogether & are desperately trying to recruit new staff, using every trick in the book to get around Treasury led demands for staff cuts (fixed term appointments being the main way).

It's actually worse down South than in the traditional unemployment blackspots in the North of England, Scotland etc ,,, with benefit application forms from offices in the South of England (particularly South coast & South West) being sent for processing by courier to offices up North which haven't been as badly affected.

150,000 is a drop in the bucket, to be honest, compared to the numbers of Brits being paid off.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 04:54 AM
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Ok, on comparison, the BNP seem to be slightly more right than the Dutch Party for Freedom, but not by much. Only the issue over capital punishment and National Service seems to make the two parties different in stance.

Having said that, the UK has no extreme parties in Parliament, whereas European nations do.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 04:58 AM
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Long term unemployed should be forced into doing these "menial" jobs ahead of giving them to immigrants. If there is no work within 1 1/2 hours from their home, then the Government should employ them to sweep the streets, fix the railways or whatever they have the aptitude to do.

I do not see why I should pay a massive sum of money every month in tax, work 48 hours a week and support my two kids without State aid, when people seem to be quite happy to do **** all and get given money for it.

I do not see why people should be allowed to spend months, or even years on benefit because they "just don't want to work"! I don't really want to work, but I effing well have to.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 04:58 AM
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If you believe the offical statistics that is, but dont forget that none of the illegal immegrants will be declaring themselves on the official cencus and i know from my own area the number of non whites has increased dramatically over the last couple of years



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 05:03 AM
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In urban area's, the change is quite noticeable.

For example, I lived in central Reading for 10 years up until last year. I finally had enough, so moved to Wokingham which is a nice market town 7 miles from Reading.

The difference in ethnic make up is stark.

In Reading, it is "spot the Englishman". In Wokingham, the only ethnic people you see only work their as cleaners etc and leave at the end of the day on the bus to Reading!

The Government should make real efforts to round up all illegals, anyone claiming asylum from countries deemed safe and anyone attempting claim asylum coming from the continent and send them back without all this "Human Rights" parlavor which goes on.

Just get a big ship, fill it with people and send them buggers back, they don't add to the nation they just take. Any cash they earn is "tax free" as it is illegal and they send the majority of it to their own countries, removing wealth from the UK.

[edit on 25/1/09 by stumason]



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 05:13 AM
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With today's news regarding corrupt Labour peers in the House of Lords and the current state of the economy, Britain will never again elect the Labour party or a socialist-leaning party.

The British National Party cannot come to power (due to the electoral system), but will probably gain a selection of MEP's and probably a member of the House of Commons. Even if the far-right are never elected to power, success in a single seat is enough to create political earthquakes.

Britain will, however, develop a much more right wing agenda.

[edit on 25-1-2009 by infinite]



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by Chaoticar


Yes ATSers:
As Britain enters recession, with 2,500 Britons losing their jobs a day (290,000 losing jobs between December 1 2007-30 November 2008) and estimates of 600,000 possible job losses in 2009 a whooping 150,000 foreigners recieved job permits.

Will the British government develop a set and declare that "immigrants do the jobs native Britons don't do" is just utter trash? Or even that immigration amounts to nothing more thanthe demographic replacement of indigenous whites, for a permanently Labour voting public ?

www.nation alpolicyinstitute.org
(visit the link for the full news article)


They say the Hispanics invading America are doing the jobs Americans won't. That bull also! Can you say cheaper labor? So many Americans have lost their jobs due to cheap labor from Hispanics. And knowing they're probably all illegals. Can you also say open borders?

I don't understand our governments allowing this to take place. That's what gets my goat.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
Seriously, I think its a good way to blame on foreigners for the Brits problems. What better way to get the populace support for their agendas.


Yes and in the end it's all because of the EU (according to the newspapers). Our govt has allegedly nothing to do with it.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by moniker

Originally posted by deltaboy
Seriously, I think its a good way to blame on foreigners for the Brits problems. What better way to get the populace support for their agendas.


Yes and in the end it's all because of the EU (according to the newspapers). Our govt has allegedly nothing to do with it.


The EU is blamed for everything, not just in Britain, but also in the Netherlands and in most European countries. Surely, the EU is too bureaucratic and knows other drawbacks, but many people don't realize that the EU has brought many good things too:

Our bloody continent has not seen violence for over 60 years. Okay, that's not fully right, but the majority of countries hasn't. Personally, I find this the most important aspect looking back at our past.

We have one currency that I am really happy with. It's not just good from a practical point of view, but the European monetary union also protects us from huge fluctuations and the respective consequences. This in contrast to the Pound which has almost hit break-even in comparison to the Euro in December.


There's no doubt on my mind that the EU is very good for Europe, and that the UK, Denmark and Sweden will sooner or later join the Euro, but I think that's kind of behind the scope of this thread.


[edit on 25-1-2009 by Mdv2]



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 06:25 AM
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So the Labour party is saying that there are 2 million lazy ****ers on the dole and thats why we need to bring in foreign labour??

Absolute baloney

The real reasons have already been touched on here, to dilute the British populace as much as possible (THEY WILL HAVE THAT FEDERAL EUROPE BY HOOK OR BY CROOK), and ensure that the left wing of politics remains powerful in the UK. However this has backfired as we are seeing with the rise of the BNP.

There are malevolent forces in europe especially French and German that would love to see Britain be torn apart ASAP.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by drwizardphd
Seriously?

It's like the British government is looking at how badly illegal immigration is hurting the US and is getting jealous.

There must be some game to this. Somehow the government gains from having so many of its populace out of work. I don't pretend to understand how the British government works, but there must be SOME explanation (seedy or not) behind such a surprisingly bad decision.


IMO, they are sinking the ship. No one would ever go for Gordon Brown's global centralization if the current system we have at the moment works, would they?

IMO, he sold around 60% of Britains gold to the EU about 9 years ago I think, this stopped us from ever returning to the gold standard, we just don't have the gold to cover the money we need now. More recent, he keeps throwing billions at the bailout (plural?) when thousands are people are going to and already have lost their homes.

This makes me think he is trying to prolong this as much as possible, until the banks can forclose on as many properties as possible. Using RBS as an example, the more houses they foreclose on, the more land the government will actually own (70% as of recently was it not?), or should I say the people own? LMAO.

And now, worried that all this won't cause the crash they are looking for, they have decided to bring in more people to fight for the already shrinking number of jobs.

Watch for even more job lossess, even more foreign workers to be brought in and even more houses to be foreclosed on, despite Gordon Brown's promise to protect the people from this very problem.

IMO, it is laughable that another bailout was propsed, they where suppsed to use the first one to help loan to the people and each other and did they?!? Did they B*ll*cks, they invested it and lost most of it, spent the rest on holidays and bonuses!! truly a joke that we are trying to save this from collapse.

Sorry for the rant, ain't been on here in a while, been building up.

EMM



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 07:00 AM
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I am disgusted
by the actions of my our government. they seem set to destroy our once great country. Since coming to power they have brought in policy after policy that seem to be aimed at destroying the British people. Its no wonder that our country is in recession when our controlling politicians act in such a way. This seems to be something they are doing constantly. I mean you here of companies sneaking in immigrants in order to undercut their current workers but who would have thought a government would intentionally undermine themselves. Its almost as if they wish for the UK to socially and economically destroyed now they have finished destroying our political faith
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Anyone out there who has a logical explanation for this self-harm on a national scale. I am starting to go mad at all the madness that the Labour Party is wreaking upon this country.

[edit on 25/1/2009 by Cauch1]



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by stumason
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Long term unemployed should be forced into doing these "menial" jobs ahead of giving them to immigrants. If there is no work within 1 1/2 hours from their home, then the Government should employ them to sweep the streets, fix the railways or whatever they have the aptitude to do.

I do not see why I should pay a massive sum of money every month in tax, work 48 hours a week and support my two kids without State aid, when people seem to be quite happy to do **** all and get given money for it.

I do not see why people should be allowed to spend months, or even years on benefit because they "just don't want to work"! I don't really want to work, but I effing well have to.


I completely agree with all that you have posted here. Back where i used to live was a quiet calm hard-working area except from about 10 junkies who all shared a council flat under the name of one of their relatives. They just sponged off the state and the police would be round almost every week trying to get their drugs or arresting one for another repeated felony.

I can also relate to you on the "spot the whiteguy". I have know areas where in casual talk people have added -stan to the end of the name due to the number of immigrants there and the lack of English people.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by infinite
Britain will never again elect the Labour party or a socialist-leaning party.

[edit on 25-1-2009 by infinite]


My friend you vastly underestimate the stupidity and gullibility of the average British voter. I give it one or two terms by the Conservatives (just enough time to get the country back on its feet) before the idiots start voting for Labour again (some will never stop). Then Labour will cripple the country again and the cycle will repeat.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 07:48 AM
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The white-working class are no longer a Labour majority, the British National Party have performed a monolithic coup on this socio-economic group. With the decline of UKIP, the BNP are seen as the main anti-EU party too.

Also, the Green party are successfully becoming the main opponent and replacement to the Labour party on the left. Labour are the equivalent to the Liberals in the 1990s: tradition voters have found alternative parties.


[edit on 25-1-2009 by infinite]



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 07:52 AM
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Just to show how Labour have stuffed themselves (and the rest of us) up, here is a link to the latest polls for the UK, dated 19th Jan 2009.

It shows that for the second time since Brown came to power, he has thrown away any gains in polls to the Tories.

He had a 10% lead when he came to power, but now he is 14% behind the Tories. That's a massive swing and more or less guarantees David Cameron will be our PM next year.

It also predicts that given the current poll avergaes, the Tories will have a 52 seat majority!

Yay!



[edit on 25/1/09 by stumason]



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 08:00 AM
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..or this year


Rumours are that Brown might resign in order to restore confidence in the economy. If he had any sense of decency or chivalry left towards this nation, the Labour party would hold an election now.

With a new governing party being elected, it is certain that some confidence will be restored to the economy and an end to wasteful spending on big government. Investors will countermand their recent actions and Sterling can stop falling.

Unlike Labour, the Tories have designed a strategy to restore the nation finances to manageable and productive levels. This is a fundamental key in order to build confidence once again.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 08:08 AM
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In good economic times this wouldn't be a problem or issue but in a recession governments really need to make sure they see to the needs of those who already live in their countries. Immigration and economic growth must be balanced otherwise you could create mass unemployment and turn your country into one that is not much more desirable to live in then the countries these people are fleeing to come to the UK.



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