world's biggest remote viewing experiment

page: 2
19
<< 1    3 >>

log in

join

posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 08:53 AM
link   
I dont think you can learn remote viewing alone,just by reading the online manuals.there is far more to it than that and you need a trained instructor to show you the ropes.
I am pro trained in CRV,and my Instructor was taught in america using CRV .The training over the months was mentaly exhausting,to say the least!Myself and my Training partner had some great results from our targets and a few blow outs too!
I tended to lock on to the target in the meditation just prior to putting pen to paper with some clear images of the targets I had(Midwayers,TWA800,JFK)but rambled a bit writing down in the matrix grid as my awakened mind took over.I also was hopeless at targets with aliens in them and my partner got those strongly.
I have not done it for years now,as I got day long headaches after long sessions(not too bad)and my astral self felt very loose in my body when I was doing a lot.
Nowdays using hemisync tapes it might be easier to keep lock on a target and keep there for longer.If I had the time I would love to mess around with the Hemysync tapes and explore some deep ERV with full Bilocation

The military these days use brainwave jumping,helped by the Hemysync tapes to start with that teach them to induce the vibrational sound of seperation(like a F1 car roaring through head)and jump straight out to target.This is also(sorry going off topic here)why Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11-if they realy want to find him,their spooks would know where he is!

Anyway good luck with your targets




posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 08:58 AM
link   
reply to post by noangels
 


noangels

cool experience! where do you get hemisync stuff? is it similar to binaurals?



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 09:30 AM
link   
everything remote viewing here.

www.dojopsi.com...



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 10:40 AM
link   
sorry if i'm way off topic here but i've always thought remote viewing is pretty interesting, but who doesn't? well any way this may sound stupid but when me and my girlfriend talk on the phone, she sometimes asks me how many fingers she's holding up. i'll close my eyes, think of her and picture a hand.
whenever i'm picturing the hand it's always a static blue color with white light around it. i'll see the fingers held up and guess right almost every time. whenever i guess wrong i either don't see a hand or i'm just not trying anymore.
so should i try this whole remote viewing thing out?

great post btw, s&f. I can't wait to see the results, bookmarked it.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 11:00 AM
link   
This sounds fun. I will check out the link and give it a whirl.

I am trained in TRV (there are so many arms of the original remote viewing group) I trained through PsiTech under Joni Dourif and worked on a couple or three high profile cases and had some decent results. I havent done any remote viewing in about 4 or 5 years now (life gets in the way lol) but would love to be involved in this and stretch those brain muscles again.

with all the different variations of remote viewing you would have to set up the experiment to accomodate each of the top training styles. Also you would have to take great care in how the submissions are made and revealed so as not to taint the results. Im going to go check out the site now.




posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 11:08 AM
link   
Would it be possible for RV ing to predict the stock mkt. Metals mkt., find
payout machines in a casino, or soft games in the poker room.

Sorry, I'm almost flat broke and have a selfintrest in finding some way to easily improve my financial situation. I don't have a lot of money to pay for a course.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 11:49 AM
link   
reply to post by whaaa
 


hi

have been doing a wee bit of reading since posting this and there seems to be a few courses on exactly that....

not sure how accurate you can be...but worth a go...

which poker site are you hitting first? We could team up.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 11:54 AM
link   
reply to post by whaaa
 


Nahh mate sorry to say you cant predict stock markets,lottery numbers or any of that stuff!It has been used for nuts and bolts spying on foreign compaines-if you can see something clearly you can draw it,so an RV'r with the skills in design could copy plans.

The thing with lottery and stock options is,you cant do it!lol perhaps its timelines or a built in no cheat code that stops RV'rs doing that!Its the same with mediums and all that stuff

hemisync is a serious of tapes,the same as binaural beats-one freq in one ear another freq the other ear and the brain resonates to the combines sounds.The gateway course at this site linked has been used by the early stargate american RV'ng military.The hemisync levels start off low and go on too full blown OBEs,I think there are other tapes that cover realms further than death!

www.monroeinstitute.com...


If you have loads of money the cd's pop up on ebay,at the bottome it shows the range of the cd on your mind and body!

cgi.ebay.com...
I think the only possible way for stock and share exploiting is to see if you can roll back into your body in the near past(if you can!)I know Robert Monroe said he rolled into his bodies to find out it was not the right one!thats also where time lines come into play and other pysical worlds that exist that we at the moment are involved in but have no memory of!

Be carefull with the tapes,if you find any-some people who trained in the army went off the rails quickly.If you unlock Pandora's box you might not like the outcome or your mind might not be able to handle it.Best bet is to start of slowly before jumping into the deep end!



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 11:59 AM
link   
Several years ago I picked up a book called Remote Viewing Secrets, a handbook, written by joseph McMoneagle.

Was pretty good info.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 12:09 PM
link   
reply to post by amazed
 



Yeah thats a great book,and its worth the price just to read about his visits to mars.
David Morehouse was another ex soldier drafted into ERV,who wrote a great book on the subject.

There both good reads



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 01:25 PM
link   

Originally posted by annefran

which poker site are you hitting first? We could team up.



This is my favorite right now.

player.pureplay.com...

I'm on a huge streak! But the casino's kick my butt.

topic......Thanks for the info folks!

[edit on 25-1-2009 by whaaa]



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 01:58 PM
link   
Just a quick one - we have had to buy extra bandwidth for the site due to the amount of traffic. The host sent us an email saying they were going to to suspend it unless we had more bandwidth.

Something fun is happening. Thanks to all of you who are promoting it.

We hope to serve you all well!



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 04:15 PM
link   
reply to post by aleon1018
 


Yeah, HI. Enhanced ability to remote view, I think so. Strangely I believe that motion sickness pills in large consumptions can help enhance the ability to remote view, if you can keep your concentration despite less than desirable side effects of an Overdose. I had a few different occasions were the blank white wall was my canvass. Merely staring into the wall, objects in motion would eventually come through. Kind of like I was watching t.v. or something without the t.v. I couldn't make sense of any of it. A pasture with a fence and some random cows, a coke truck w/ delivery driver handing stuff out, and a demon with eye's that lit up red when he turned to stare at me. Weird huh? I have not tried it again since it has been many years ago. 7-8 yrs.



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 04:46 PM
link   
reply to post by robstuk666
 



While I'm sure there are natural techniques used by healthier people, I suppose there may be ways this is achieved similarily. I'm not one to want to use anything that involves drugs etc. The body has it's own drug factories. I've never researched using herbals etc. But no doubt there are those who try. There are probably aroma therapies that people use during meditations, but again, I'm not into that either.

What I was referring to was actually some type of radio 'supposedly' designed for this purpose. I'm not going to go into specifics though. Some of these things probably aren't healthy either.The suggestion of cell phones that may cause or contribute to brain cancer is another example.

The Nazis, no doubt did experiments like these also. It's difficult to know if these were just disinformation and or brain/body implants were the actual source.

My theory would be an advanced race, whether human hybrids or from someplace else........whatever. Some remote viewing sites mention RV aliens and other worlds etc.

I'm so far convinced that there is plenty of disinformation and misinformation. Kids are supposedly cleaner or have healthier less cluttered minds? Check out David Wilcock on 2012 here or on youtube.he's not a RV as far as I know.But he has some interesting theories.

Still, if psychic remote viewing and OOBE are real, than I wouldn't doubt there are ways to enhance it. We already know about radio signals etc. So.....? Don't hurt yourselves. I wonder if any remote viewers ever tried it in a pyramid?



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 01:05 AM
link   
reply to post by aleon1018
 


Thanks aleon - I wonder if there are?

I can't get the image of a bumper sticker out of my head which says "Remote Viewers do it in a Pyramid"!



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 01:28 AM
link   
can it be used to get the local power ball lottery numbers?



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 04:01 AM
link   
reply to post by b3r6a8d8
 


I will be trying this in the national lottery...

Have tried it on various online games...am £40 down as a result!



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 03:01 PM
link   
Since a few folks seem interested, I thought I would post some links for your browsing/ information.

First as some background: 'remote viewing' is a term coined in a science lab. It was initially based on work done the previous few decades via Rhine, ASPR, and others. The difference initially was that instead of being forced-choice psi or "describe something in a cubbyhole in the box in the next room", it was literally describing a location somewhere. The difference later (as all science protocols evolve with experience), is that it became double-blind. That is to say, that neither the subject nor anybody in physiological proximity with them knew what the target was.

Around the same time this happened (beginning of the 1970s), a different segment of science was doing just about the exact same thing, they called it 'distance viewing' instead. Remote Viewing is what is called 'free response' psychic functioning. That means that rather than having to pick a card, guess a number, or choose a place on a map, the subject is welcome to describe whatever comes to them, freely. It is essentially a form of clairvoyance except it is using "all" senses. Information can be recorded in words, pictures, audio, etc. depending on the psychic/viewer and depending on the protocol set up in advance. For example, one of the most famous protocols for RV is called 'Ganzfeld'. They had people lie back, they had halved ping-pong balls over their eyes and a red light, they played music to put them in an altered state, and then they did 'interviews' (one person asking question, the subject usually speaking in response).

Distance Viewing and Remote Viewing (and 'free response psi' without those specific terms) was practiced and developed and evolved somewhat, around the world from basically the end of the 1960s/early 1970s until the early 1980s, when when a different thing occurred. In 1977-79 the US government had created a unit of intelligence soldiers who were the last left standing after a long testing process, to come up with people who appeared to have inclination for skill at viewing. This was just following a new branch of research funded by a variety of government agencies (and others). They needed more people for the unit before long, and rather than do another recruit/vet/test series like they had initially, the director of the research project (Dr. Harold Puthoff) chose to fund one of the earliest psychics who'd helped get that research going--in fact THE earliest, on one starting project--Ingo Swann, to develop a "psychic method" that he believed would make it easier for people who had no known psychic ability to more quickly and/or more efficiently learn to use whatever innate ability they had.

There are, in Swann's own words, thousands of formats of psi throughout time. There are many psychic-methods for viewing, probably the most famous is Silva Mind Control by Jose Silva, which was very big in the 1970s when much of this was developing. Other notorious psychics, such as Edgar Cayce and Jane Roberts, wrote books about "how to use your ESP power" or variants thereon, and Ingo Swann wrote a book like that as well in the 1970s, along with his autobiography of the time, "To Kiss Earth Goodbye" (a really good book I might add--Swann is brilliant, and has a huge amount of reading available at his website, www.biomindsupowerpowers.com...).

Swann requested and was given (funded) by Puthoff a few 'trainees' to work with part time for a few years, initially outside the lab in California and then outside science entirely at his place in New York. This was a first-run experiment, but Swann was a great viewer and had done a truly crazy amount of personal research on such things and had some really good ideas. Puthoff and Swann (and the lab manager and later Director May) were all Scientologists, and as you may know, "secret techniques for achieving mental stuff" is pretty much the cornerstone of scientology.

To be continued



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 03:16 PM
link   
reply to RedCairo

continuing.

So in 1986, the experiment still hadn't seemed to pan out as hoped as far as demonstrated skill comparatively in the subjects. Management determined to do a big formal study and compare a whole bunch of psychic methods against each other, and against no-method (just "relax and do it"), including a focus on the one that Puthoff had been pouring such money into for years via Swann. At that point Puthoff quit abruptly, and the project nearly ceased, but managed to survive, with the next in line appointed as Director, Ed May. The first big assignment was that methods review, which was done at length.

Ingo Swann talked about the degree of study involved in this methods review in one of his appearances at a remote viewing conference a few years ago. He didn't mention, though, that the review was actually not a good thing for his experiment in the end. They determined -- and this is probably no surprise when you think about it -- that some approaches worked better for some personalities than others; that some worked better for some kinds of data than others; and that given the variance based on those two factors, if all the subjects were practicing the same amount and frequency, that no particular approach was really better than any other. Just like in sports or music, the application and the individual will make what's "best for them" vary a bit, but in general, it appeared that (just like in sports or music) some kind of innate talent had a great deal to do with competence in the end. The project ceased the experiment at that point, since the point was to find something that made people either 'better' or decent 'faster'. While people had done just fine with Swann's approach, it wasn't better/faster so as far as science was concerned that experiment was over.

But they still had a unit with by now 1 soon to be zero personnel, a lot of work, and several former experimental subjects with nowhere to go. They moved the subjects into the intelligence unit (this is now mid-1980s) to be the new crop of viewers. The single viewer left from the original unit went to work for the science lab.

You can read about some of this in Joseph McMoneagle's book THE STAR GATE CHRONICLES -- that is the hardback title, check for the softback slightly diff title (MEMOIRS OF A PSYCHIC SPY or something like that) if you want paperback. You can also read about the military side of it, and of this second unit (which changed management and funders and was then under the DIA instead) in Jim Schnabel's book REMOTE VIEWERS. Although he left out a huge block of science--because the people helping him write it were so biased in favor of Swann's experiment that to them, all science ceased to matter after 1985--despite that failing, the book is actually pretty good and has lots of details.

McMoneagle has three other books, the first one is excellent as a simple intro to RV with some basic how-to, MIND TREK: REMOTE VIEWING THROUGH TIME, SPACE AND CONSCIOUSNESS; his second is THE ULTIMATE TIME MACHINE, which is a book of predictions for the future; his third was REMOTE VIEWING SECRETS: A HANDBOOK which is an excellent book every viewer should have that is basically "a primer on protocol." Which is to say, understanding the context, how not to screw up the situation or process or environment, how to get everything (including your head) right so that whatever approach to psychic functioning you might use, you're not mucking it up with errors or misunderstandings. www.mceagle.com

For books related to the second unit and its personnel, you can read the accounts by its various personnel. This includes David Morehouse (PSYCHIC WARRIOR), Lyn Buchanan (THE SIXTH SENSE), Paul Smith (READING THE ENEMY'S MIND). The most infamous of the second unit, a monitor not a viewer, was Ed Dames, who was all but sponsored as great entertainment by radio host Art Bell on his Coast to Coast program from 1996 to present.

to be continued



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 03:29 PM
link   
reply to RedCairo

continued, post #3 in series

There is currently a lot of confusion about the subject of remote viewing, in part because sometimes what the public is exposed to is a really tiny piece of a bigger picture. And in this case, the primary public exposure comes from (1) ex-intelligence military officers and (2) people making money/power on it. (Anybody in UFOlogy knows that story too well, I'm sure, as it has a similar situation.)

By 1995, nobody really wanted the intell viewing unit anymore, despite that up until the mid-80s the workload had increased every month. If you read Schnabel's book you see a little bit about this, how there was so little work and everyone had other jobs or hobbies during working hours, etc. As it turns out (hindsight is 20/20) that's in part because a great deal of the intell viewing shifted to the lab when McMoneagle moved over there and for the viewers there with clearance, it was getting done there instead. This wasn't known to the people (even management) of the unit at the time or in fact until the program had already closed. In any case, as a result of the situation with the unit, the CIA which had been the biggest repeat customer of intell RV and had wanted it in its hot little hands for years, all the sudden was thrown it like a hot potato. They'd just had a serious budget and personnel cut, and the unit was already cleared for funding. So the CIA took it, did the fastest popcorn-science review in the west and in 90 days had it closed down, took all its money and personnel slots, told the world, "Hey, we [it actually wasn't them] studied this for nearly 20 years [repeatedly re-funded every year after review and demonstration] but it didn't pan out to anything so we closed it. That's all!" and that was that. This was in September of 1995.

A firestorm of media blitz arrived after that, from 1995 onward, mostly focusing on the intell unit, not the science aspect or viewers in that area, for the most part. Schnabel's early work led to a documentary 'The Real X-Files' (bittorrent is your friend here), although some of his views changed a bit as he got more into the study and released his book REMOTE VIEWERS a couple years later.

The first books written that involved the specific term remote viewing or distance viewing were back in the 70s by various scientists. Search for books by Harold Puthoff, Russell Targ, Keith Harary, and Stephan Schwartz. McMoneagle's first book MIND TREK was published in 1993. All of the other books about it were published after the project went public in late 1995.

All of these people have websites, just google.

In 1996 two of the members of the second unit, Ed Dames and Lyn Buchanan, began selling "training in remote viewing". Actually they were selling the "psychic method" that was Swann's experiment, but since they used that for remote viewing and called it that, to them that amounted to the same thing. (This is a common issue you'll find in the commercial field: those selling psychic methods call it 'remote viewing', but you can do remote viewing with any method you want.) In ~1997 Paul Smith left the military and began selling his version as well. There are others who claim to have been in 'government units' and sell 'secret methods' as well.

to be continued





top topics
 
19
<< 1    3 >>

log in

join