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Mexico On Path To Becoming Bigger Security Threat Than Iraq

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posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 04:36 PM
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Mexico On Path To Becoming Bigger Security Threat Than Iraq


www.huffingtonpost.com

Indiscriminate kidnappings. Nearly daily beheadings. Gangs that mock and kill government agents.

This isn't Iraq or Pakistan. It's Mexico, which the U.S. government and a growing number of experts say is becoming one of the world's biggest security risks.

The prospect that America's southern neighbor could melt into lawlessness provides an unexpected challenge to Barack Obama's new government. In its latest report anticipating possible global security risks, the U.S. Joint Forces Command lumps Mexico and Pakistan together as being at risk of a "rapid and sudden collapse."

(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 04:36 PM
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First of all I have to say, that I am against such labels like "new threat" or presenting a whole country as a direct threat for US. This discourse does not have good will against the so called "threat country" and lacks any courage for peaceful or democratic development in general. However I found this article interesting, since it talks about some issue that I know very less (I am living far from the Continent of America). What are people thinking in this issue?

www.huffingtonpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 23-1-2009 by deccal]

[edit on 23-1-2009 by deccal]



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 04:38 PM
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It's about time that they woke the hell up to the threat!

Considering that about 10% of Mexico, at tleast, is already living here.

These kinds of problems have already started to seep in to the border states.


I have said all along, I could *never* beleive the war on terror rhetoric at the same time this problem was being ignored.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 04:39 PM
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It's just another step toward the North American Union. You need chaos so that the poeple will accept the control.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 04:48 PM
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I have friends that moved from Ohio to Houston TX 2 years ago in search of greener pastures. Fortunately for them they live in a relatively closed suburban development. However, they are scared of what has been happening lately. The escalation of violence and level of corruption is certainly turning heads.

I would love to see what some of our citizen border patrol agents/Minutemen have to say about this recent development.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 04:51 PM
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All this and the story about Chinese mercenaries gathering south of the border in Mexico...

There was a thread on that somewhere here... I'll se if I can find it.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 05:00 PM
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Is it me or is the USA going to think whole world is a threat to them. Is the USA being paranoid? Russia, China, Iraq, Iran, afghanistan, North Korea, Mexico, Pakistan, etc

Soon it might be the whole world, and the USA will be seperating themselves from the world, screaming to everyone to stay back you strange aliens! lol

[edit on 23-1-2009 by _Phoenix_]



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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Anyone who has been watching the Western Hemisphere for the last 5-10 years could see this coming. When the PRI was finally voted out, and the new party was voted in with a pledge to bring the drug trade under control, it was obvious that open war would be declared. The government rounded up the ruling drug lords, leaving a power vacum, thus leading to what could almost be called all out war.
This war is spilling over the border, and not just in border towns, but in cities like Houston and Pheonix. (We won't even talk about Yuma, San Diego, or L.A.)
What's the answer? Arm our border guards and the police and sheriff departments on the borders with automatic weapons. As our troops are brought home from Iraq, place them on the border, facing Mexico. Make and offer the the Mexican government to provide assistance in ending this scourge. If they are not willing to accept the offer, then give them an ultimatum. It you don't stop the invasion of the US by drug traffickers and drug lords, then we will, even if it means invading Mexico, with the sole purpose of cleaning out these scumbags. Once we are done, we will come home. If you(the Mexican government) cannot control the Drug Lords, we will be back. And each time we come back, we will advance a little further. If necessary, we will take Mexico city, and continue south.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 07:34 PM
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the drug smugglers are being escorted by armored vehicles well into texas state lines. minute men and border patrol dont have the means to combat that. our gov had said the lines arent defined well enough and they probably didnt mean to cross. so it doesnt look like congress or the president believes our border patrol even when they have proof of the following: beheadings, scrotum carving, face carving, and torture. i am tired of it. i live in texas on I35 (drug traffic highway numero uno) and its about out of control. it wont be long before i start wearing my plate carrier vest out and about. i hope when the joint chiefs state that it is indeed a serious problem maybe this new president will pay attention.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by kettlebellysmith
Anyone who has been watching the Western Hemisphere for the last 5-10 years could see this coming. When the PRI was finally voted out, and the new party was voted in with a pledge to bring the drug trade under control, it was obvious that open war would be declared. The government rounded up the ruling drug lords, leaving a power vacum, thus leading to what could almost be called all out war.
This war is spilling over the border, and not just in border towns, but in cities like Houston and Pheonix. (We won't even talk about Yuma, San Diego, or L.A.)
What's the answer? Arm our border guards and the police and sheriff departments on the borders with automatic weapons. As our troops are brought home from Iraq, place them on the border, facing Mexico. Make and offer the the Mexican government to provide assistance in ending this scourge. If they are not willing to accept the offer, then give them an ultimatum. It you don't stop the invasion of the US by drug traffickers and drug lords, then we will, even if it means invading Mexico, with the sole purpose of cleaning out these scumbags. Once we are done, we will come home. If you(the Mexican government) cannot control the Drug Lords, we will be back. And each time we come back, we will advance a little further. If necessary, we will take Mexico city, and continue south.


I like the way you think kettlebellysmith. Unfortunately, I don't think this will ever happen even with a new president.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 09:08 PM
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Then we need to make sure it happens, even if we have to invoke the Second Amendment, and properly defend this country. If the Federal government won't uphold the constitution, then it will be up to the citizens to do so, and in doing so, "fertitize the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots." (Thomas Jefferson)



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 09:21 PM
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Things like this have been happening in Mexico for years...i've lived on the border for years and my family still lives there peacefully...the media just wants everyone to be scared and think all this caos is happening in mexico and the border when in actuality all you hear on the border in the mornings are chirping birds



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 09:32 PM
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The sensible thing would be to bring the troops home from Iraq and place them on our Southern border. Unfortunately the elites do not want to disrupt the narco trade, and they certainly have no intention of maintaining borders. The North American Union is coming whether we like it or not.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 09:56 PM
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We also have the problem of our agents on the border having their hands tied by micro-managed DC idiots who are worried that we might piss off the wrong cartel. I correspond almost daily with friends and family that live in El Paso and Phoenix and if you take the time, go to the real estate pages of those border cities and see the houseing thats up for sale. Its not the economy causeing this, its the gang problems over running the south west. If you live within 10 miles of any border crossing point, whether its legit or a pass through, you cannot leave your residence and come back and find everything the way you left it. It will be raided by border crossers and looted right down to your underware!
Zindo



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 10:00 PM
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I live at the top of the Amnesty trail in Arizona.

I have to say the last two months there has been a DRAMATIC increase in the amount of immigration/border patrol vehicles around here. Every time I go out in my car, I see at least three on the road at any given time and there are only two main roads here.

They have always been here, but I have never seen these numbers before.
Feels like something is up.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 10:39 PM
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when i go back home to visit my family who lives miles from the border...everything is pretty much the same so i don't know what u are talking about...well...maybe it is different since time has past....maybe new grass...the dog gets bigger...mom's hair is different...hahahahahaha

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posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 10:49 PM
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NAU is coming. I think this is what gives drugs cartels their
true power, and purpose. It's not only drugs and cash. These
thugs now serve as a pawn in a game of chess where NAU is
a checkmate for America.



posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 03:19 AM
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But until now the posts mostly blame Mexico and its governement. Does not US authorities has also fault in feeding those drug lords and drug traffic. I am not sure but US must have some benefit in this drug issue and feed it with its own hands, maybe just like Al Qaida? I am just guessing sorry.



posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 03:57 AM
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Isnt mexico two clicks from leaglizing drugs, just to get rid of the cartels?
I swore I heard about it awhile back.



posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 04:28 AM
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Funny, Iraq never WAS a security threat. At least not to the US. So how can the article use that as a comparison? :shk:

But yeah no doubt so many of us having been screaming for a long time to put troops or fences or something along the southern border. And only because the vast majority of illegal immigrants come from there. Border patrol is clearly not enough.

But the problem with Mexican military incursions is over the top. If the Mexican government can't stop them, we are going to have to. And it's about time they put some real fire power down there to make it happen. Let a few of those military get torn to pieces along with their drug buddies, and maybe the rest will get the message.



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