posted on Oct, 25 2011 @ 02:44 PM
Interesting post. Lots of good info, and lots of bad.
I was in Army ROTC in college, didn't get a comission due to some eye problems. But I have studied all branches of the military extensively (both for
my degree,poli/sci-international security) and for my own interest.
Army V Marines....always a goodie.
They have different missions. These missions compliment each other in many ways, but they are different.
Because of this they have different training programs. However; some of the comparisons you guys are making are weird. Rangers vs Recon, Regular
Marine vs Delta...come on they all have differnent training because they have different missions. Of course a a Delta operator is going to be
"better"(PT training, marksmanship, etc.) then a regular marine....Just as a Marine Infantryman is going to be "better" then an Army
But just for reference: The following is from Wiki or the services' websites paraphrased and simplified.
The United States Army is the main branch of the United States Armed Forces responsible for land-based military operations.
The United States Marine Corps (USMC) is a branch of the United States Armed Forces responsible for providing power projection from the sea.
The US Army has 10 Active Duty Combat Divisions, several seperate combat brigades and Regiments, and a further 8 Combat Divisions of the National
Guard that can be called up, for a total force of 20+ Combat Divisions. An army division has 4 combat maneuver brigades (a combo of either light
infantry/airborne; Stryker, and Heavy), an aviation brigade, and a support brigade, until 2007 engineer and artillery brigades were included, but
these units are now attached directly to every maneuver brigade. At least one Division, the 82nd Airborne (with 4 parachute infantry brigades), and
several seperate units; the 75th Ranger Regiment, the 173rd Airborne Brigade, and the 4th Brigade Combate Team (Airborne) of the 25th Infantry
Division are capable of strategic or tactical forced entry operations (Airborne Insertion) although there is generally only enough Airlift available
to drop about three brigades at one time. The 101st Airborne (air assult) is also capable of forced entry operations, but at more of a tactical level
as it's two helicopter brigades must have a reasonably close place to stage from.
At least 5 divisions are fully or more than 50% heavy armored formations (1st Armored, 1st Cavalry, 1st Infantry, 2nd Infantry , 3rd Infantry)
equiped with M1Abrams, M2 Bradley, M109 and MLRS SP Artillery, etc.). Other divisions are light or have the wheeled Stryker Brigades, or a mix of the
The US Marine Corp has 3 Combat Divisions. They are roughly the same size as an Army Division, but organized much differently. Only about 25% of the
Divisions are "armored" with M-1 Abrams, LAV-25 wheeled armored Vehicals, and AAV7 armored amphibous landing craft. The rest of the Marine Division
is regular Marine Infantry (light infantry if comparing to the army) and artillery. Marine Aviation is not directly attached to the division, but is
partialled out as needed. The 3rd Marine Division is greatly stripped down compared to the 1st and 2nd divisions (many of its units serve with the
latter). The Marines also have one reserve division spread across the US (Marine Reserve), although it is unlikely it form as an actual division and
would likely provide seperate units to support the other Marine Divisions or round out the 3rd Division. Total combat strength: 4 combat
The Navy has enough sealift to actually land one full division plus if needed. Typically, the at sea Marines are Marine units selected from the
divisions to be temprarily attached to a MEU (marine expedition unit) a heavily reinforced battalian afloat. Usually two to three are at sea at a
given time. The rest of the Marines would deploy primarily by Air Force Airlift or Civil Reserve Airfleet (drafted airliners). Of course they have to
split those with the Army and the USAF itself. The Marines have the least amount of support units, as much of their support comes from the Navy.
Because of it's smaller size, and expeditionary outlook, the Marines have a longer and more stringent Basic Training for all of its members then the
other services. However; the actual course of schooling a Marine Infantryman and an Army Infantrymen gets is relatively similar, even if the Basic
training is different. There is a little bit more specialization in Army Infantry, as there is light infantry, Airborne and Air Assault Infantry,
Mechanized Infantry, Stryker Infantry, Armored Cavalry Scouts, etc. Each has slightly different training. Marine Infantry (unless Recon or light
armored reconnasance is basicly the same across the board).
Each service has it's own special forces, with their own training needs.
Hope that helps.