Originally posted by Wertdagf
But do you really have the free will "not" to help people? If somone was injured in frount of you would you not try to help them? Do you really think you could just walk away?
You can still be manipulated regardless of what you believe or think about god, satan, and your soul.
Sure I could. I have years and years of experience. Tell me, what is it exactly that chooses which memories of the experience are to be used for the current decision? Why would I choose 1 memory over another to act upon? It would have to be because I put more importance on that particular memory.
Why would I choose most likely to help that person? Because I am able to put myself in their shoes. I can look at the situation from not only my point of view, and my memories, but I can also look at it from the persons point of view. What if it was me in that car? And so I will treat that person as if they were me.
There is a reason the person has to be manipulated. If they had no free will, then there would be no such thing as manipulation. The entire reason manipulation exists is to control free will.
Yes, we fall prey to manipulations on a daily basis. But the point is to recognize and overcome them. When you overcome them, then you are no longer subject to the manipulation. To be able to make the correct choice, based on the knowledge and experience obtained is wisdom.
Your eyes themselves are a manipulation. Claims to show you light and vision. But in fact, it provides only a very small fraction of the entire light spectrum. VERY SMALL. I think it makes up like 6% of the known spectrum.
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Sound really is also just another part of the same spectrum. And so your ears provide that range, not visibly, but as sound. Although presented in a way which can provide direction 3 dimensionally and so on, just as your vision is presented in 2d, but from light and such you are able to make out 3d.
So of course there is manipulation. Manipulation itself is proof of free will. Otherwise wouldn't be needed.
