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posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 03:18 AM
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Definitely ANTI-MUSLIM propaganda. Whoever originated this letter is indeed a DISBELIEVER and if what he just said was true, then how come he is still alive to tell the tale so to speak? The only thing truthful in his Hate-Mail is the observation that Islam is the fastest growing religion in America, the rest are his vain attempts to discredit Islam but in fact he just gave the believers opportunity to defend God and His religion once more. Watch and Learn.

Allah or the Lord Jesus Christ?

A Message to all recipients of this Email. Fear Allah, Your ONLY Lord, The Exalted in Might, Who has No partner in Sovereignty, who gave you life and cause you to die and unto Him is the journeying of all.

This self-exposed Disbeliever had the audacity to make people choose between God and His Servant Jesus, and many of you would have been mislead if God did not have mercy on you.

Allah created everything that is in the Heavens and everything that is on the Earth, tell me what did Jesus create that you should equate Him with the Lord of the Worlds? By his own admission he cannot even create a single fly and yet most people has chosen him as Lord over the Lord of all Creation. Jesus never spoke a single word of his own but spoke only the words of Him who sent him, and that is Allah. So Glory be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds from that which they ascribe as partners unto Him.

19 And be not ye as those who forgot Allah, therefor He caused them to forget their souls. Such are the evil-doers.

20 Not equal are the owners of the Fire and the owners of the Garden. The owners of the Garden, they are the victorious.

21 If We had caused this Qur'an to descend upon a mountain, thou (O Muhammad) verily hadst seen it humbled, rent asunder by the fear of Allah. Such similitude coin We for mankind that haply they may reflect.

22 He is Allah, than Whom there is no other god, the Knower of the Invisible and the Visible. He is the Beneficent, Merciful.

23 He is Allah, than Whom there is no other god, the Sovereign Lord, the Holy One, Peace, the Keeper of Faith, the Guardian, the Majestic, the Compeller, the Superb. Glorified be Allah from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him).

24 He is Allah, the Creator, the Shaper out of naught, the Fashioner. His are the most beautiful names. All that is in the heavens and the earth glorifieth Him, and He is the Mighty, the Wise. (Chapter 59:19-24)

That is ALLAH, sons of Adam. He is the Protecting Guardian of those who believe, He bring them out of Darkness into the Light. While those who disbelieve their guardians are false gods, who bring them out of light into the darkness and their eternal abode is the Fire.

O mankind! A similitude is coined, so pay ye heed to it: Lo! those on whom ye call beside Allah will never create a fly though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly took something from them, they could not rescue it from it. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought! (Al-Hajj, Chapter #22, Verse #73)

22 If there were therein gods beside Allah, then verily both (the heavens and the earth) had been disordered. Glorified be Allah, the Lord of the Throne, from all that they ascribe (unto Him).

23 He will not be questioned as to that which He doeth, but they will be questioned.

24 Or have they chosen other gods beside Him? say: Bring your proof (of their godhead). This is the Reminder of those with me and those before me, but most of them know not the Truth and so they are averse.

25 And We sent no messenger before thee but We inspired him, (saying): There is no god save Me (Allah), so worship Me.

26 And they say: The Beneficent hath taken unto Himself a son. Be He Glorified! Nay, but (those whom they call sons) are honoured slaves;

27 They speak not until He hath spoken, and they act by His command.

28 He knoweth what is before them and what is behind them, and they cannot intercede except for him whom He accepteth, and they quake for awe of Him.

29 And one of them who should say: Lo! I am a god beside Him, that one We should repay with hell. Thus We Repay wrong-doers. (21:22-29)

Fighting in the way of God, may it be in swords or words is the duty of all people who have surrendered to the Will and Guidance of Allah, it is a promise binding in the Torah, Gospel and Holy Quran. But this fighting is only for people who make war with them in relation to their faith, who fight with them FIRST. When a believer meets a disbeliever in battleground then it is incumbent upon the believer to slay and be slain in the way of God. The Internet is a global battleground wherein the battle is fought with words instead of swords. The disbelievers defending Idolatry while the believers are fighting for God's Unity and in this sense the pen is mightier than the sword and the ink of scholars are in the sight of God more valuable than the blood of martyrs. Because the ink of the scholars can correctly guide their words to their enemy, while those in battle cannot discriminate perfectly and oftentimes accidentally kill believers.

O ye who believe! When ye go forth (to fight) in the way of Allah, be careful to discriminate, and say not unto one who offereth you peace: "Thou art not a believer," seeking the chance profits of this life (so that ye may despoil him). With Allah are plenteous spoils. Even thus (as he now is) were ye before; but Allah hath since then been gracious unto you. Therefore take care to discriminate. Allah is ever Informed of what ye do. ( An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #94)

I pray for God's Mercy and blessings to all the Muslims who responded to the call of Allah, to defend His religion and His Prophet Muhammad, the Truthful One from all the malicious and ignorant disbelievers who have despaired of the Mercy of Allah. Continue fighting for Truth, Allah will help you and cause you to enter the Garden which is promised to the descendants of Adam who surrender their Will and Guidance to Allah and obey His Messengers.

Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.
( سورة التوبة , At-Taubah, Chapter #9, Verse #111)

Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds!




posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 04:02 AM
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Just... wow. Slide under a gas truck.

LEAVE NO BIBLE UN-HUMPED!



posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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I'm still mind-boggled incredulous at the levels of ignorance regarding the vast bulk of Islam--certainly a major chunk of it--currently, the decisive and most demonstrative, most effective, most influential chunks of it.

The following brief excerpts just scratch the surface.

My former roommate alone could narrate dozens more horrific examples of the blood-thirsty NORMS within Islam.

Certainly the information is available.

However, those who are muddle-headed seem soooooo devoted to the lies of the Main Stream Media that it's doubful that any library full of facts contrary to their biases would add to their understanding a micro-gram's worth.

However, for the rational and the fair-minded . . . here's some good starting places to become more factually aware of the issues, habits, customs, beliefs of the average . . . for major chunks of Islam.


Fore the record on this thread where so much clueless hogwash is posted . . .

WHY THE VIOLENCE . . .

www.thereligionofpeace.com...

a few brief Excerpts:



Consider the elements that define hate speech:

Drawing a distinction between one’s own identity group and those outside it
Moral comparison based on this distinction
Devaluation or dehumanization of other groups and the insistence of personal superiority
The advocating of different standards of treatment based on identity group membership
A call to violence against members of other groups
Sadly, the Qur’an qualifies as hate speech on each count (despite the best intentions of many Muslims).

The holiest book of Islam (61% of which is about non-Muslims) draws the sharpest of distinctions between Muslims and non-believers, lavishing praise on the former while condemning the latter. Far from teaching universal love, the Qur'an incessantly preaches the inferiority of non-Muslims, even comparing them to vile animals and gloating over Allah's hatred of them and his dark plans for their eternal torture. Naturally, the harsh treatment of non-believers by Muslims is encouraged as well.




The Qur’an Distinguishes Muslims from Non-Muslims
and Establishes a Hierarchy of Relative Worth

The Qur’an makes it clear that Islam is not about universal brotherhood, but about the brotherhood of believers:

The Believers are but a single Brotherhood (49:10)

Not all men are equal under Islam. Slaves and the handicapped are not equal to healthy free men, for example (16:75-76). The Qur’an introduces the “Law of Equality,” which establishes different levels of human value when considering certain matters, such as restitution for murder (2:178).

With regard to Islam, the Qur’an tells Muslims that they are a favored race, while those of other religions are “perverted transgressors”:

Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors. (3:110)

As we shall see later, Allah condemns non-Muslims to Hell based merely on their unbelief, while believers are rewarded with the finest earthly comforts in the hereafter, including never-ending food, wine and sex (56:12-40). In fact, much of the Qur’an is devoted to distinguishing Muslims from non-Muslims and impugning the latter.




The Qur’an dehumanizes non-Muslims, describing them as “animals” and beasts:

Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (98:6)

Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)

Verse 5:60 even says that Allah transformed Jews of the past into apes and pigs. Verse 2:65 continues the theme.




Allah Actually Causes Non-Muslims to Sin

Not content with merely preventing unbelievers from knowing the truth (which is enough to condemn them to Hell) the Qur'an says that a hateful Allah also causes unbelievers to commit the very sin that he will later punish them for:

And if Allah please He would certainly make you a single nation, but He causes to err whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases; and most certainly you will be questioned as to what you did (16:93)

Although Satan tempts Muslims, it is Allah himself who causes unbelievers to err.

…and whomsoever Allah causes to err, you shall not find a way for him. (4:143)





The Qur’an Says that People of Other Religions
are to be Violently Punished in This World

Allah himself fights against the unbelievers (9:30), so why should Muslims not fight in his cause rather than in the cause of evil (4:76)?

Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides, whom ye may not know (8:60)


Strive hard (Jihad) against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed. (66:9, See also 9:73)

Muslims are to expect a reward in this life as well as the next (4:134), so it makes sense that unbelievers should be punished in this life as well:

…He whom Allah sendeth astray, for him there is no guide. For them is a penalty in the life of this world, but harder, truly, is the penalty of the Hereafter… (13:33:34)

All beings on heaven and earth will be forced to bow down to Allah, either willingly or by force:

And unto Allah falleth prostrate whosoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly (13:15)

Those who resist Islam will be humiliated:




If this is a "misunderstanding" of Islam by modern-day "radicals," then it is an error that the founder of Islam made as well. In Muhammad's time, non-Muslims were put to death merely for speaking out against the new religion and its self-proclaimed prophet. Likewise, the Jews of Qurayza were summarily rounded-up and executed on Muhammad's order, even though they had not even fought in battle. Since the life of a non-Muslim is cheap, actual physical harm to a Muslim is not necessary to justify murder according to the example of Muhammad.

The Qur’an meets every criterion by which we define hate speech. Not only does the message inspire loathing and disregard for others, but the text mandates the superiority of Islam, even if the means of establishment are by force.

In his later years, Muhammad directed military campaigns to subjugate other tribes and religions, "inviting" them to Islam at the point of a sword and forcing them to pay tribute nonetheless. He set in motion the aggressive military campaigns that made war against all five major world religions in just the first few decades following his death.

Islam incorporates the ultimate devaluation of non-Muslims in the most obvious way by teaching that while a Muslim may be punished with death for murdering a fellow Muslim (Bukhari 83:17), no Muslim can be put to death for killing a non-Muslim (Bukhari 83:50). The Qur’an’s "Law of Equality," which assigns human value and rights based on gender, religion and status, is the polar opposite of equality in the sense intended by Western liberal tradition, which ideally respects no such distinction.

One can always find apologists willing to dismiss the harsh rhetoric of the Qur'an with creative interpretation, tortuous explanation or outright denial, but their words and deeds almost always belie a concern for Islam's image that does not extend to Islam's victims - at least not with the same sense of urgency - thus proving the point.

Of course, there are also exceptional Muslims who do not agree with Islamic supremacy and sincerely champion secularism and respect for all people. Some even find verses or fragments of such to support their independent beliefs. But, for these people, the Qur’an as a whole will always be a constant challenge, since it explicitly teaches the distinct and inferior status of non-Muslims.





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posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 03:17 PM
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More excerpts documenting horrors from a vast chunk of Islam. Character limit is scrunching further comments in this post.

from:

www.liveleak.com...




video:

"Hitler Didn't Do a Good Job"

CLOSE [X] Gaza "Peace" Thugs Chant And Get Aggressive. Toronto, Canada



from:

sultanknish.blogspot.com...




Living with Cancer, Living with Islam
99 percent of Muslims are Muslims because their many times over great-grandfather was living in a village someplace when a group of men with swords marched in, and declared that they were all going to become Muslims now, or die horribly. Unless he was smart enough to get on board by being one of the men with the swords, and take home his share of the loot and slaves.

Today these people would be known as Muslim extremists. Back then they were just known as Muslims.

But there's a new Gold Rush in the West now as Western scholars, academics and politicians look around for something that isn't there-- a way to co-exist with Islam. Except it's not a Gold Rush but a Fool's Gold Rush, because when it comes to Islam, co-existence has never been on the table. Islam is a religion that from its earliest days was spread by the sword of Mohammed, and then by various Caliphs, Emirs, Sultans, assorted warlords and rulers.

Religions that spread like that are no more interested in achieving co-existence, than telemarketers are interested in Do Not Call lists. It puts them out of business. Even the current boom due to "interest in Islam" can be traced back to 19 Muslims flying several planes into two major US cities with a death toll in the thousands. Minus the planes and with a much higher death toll, that is generally how people get "interested" in Islam in the first place.

When Muslim leaders talk about co-existence, what they really mean is "Stop bombing us long enough to let us destroy you."




from:

memri.org...

a brief excerpt:




"Oh Allah, Take This Oppressive, Jewish, Zionist Band Of People; Oh Allah, Do Not Spare A Single One Of Them; Oh Allah, Count Their Numbers, And Kill Them, Down To The Very Last One"

"Oh Allah, take your enemies, the enemies of Islam. Oh Allah, take the Jews, the treacherous aggressors. Oh Allah, take this profligate, cunning, arrogant band of people. Oh Allah, they have spread much tyranny and corruption in the land. Pour Your wrath upon them, oh our God. Lie in wait for them. Oh Allah, You annihilated the people of Thamoud at the hand of a tyrant, and You annihilated the people of 'Aad with a fierce, icy gale. Oh Allah, You annihilated the people Thamoud at the hand of a tyrant, You annihilated the people of 'Aad with a fierce, icy gale, and You destroyed the Pharaoh and his soldiers — oh Allah, take this oppressive, tyrannical band of people. Oh Allah, take this oppressive, Jewish, Zionist band of people. Oh Allah, do not spare a single one of them. Oh Allah, count their numbers, and kill them, down to the very last one."



from:

news.yahoo.com...




PESHAWAR, Pakistan – Bus drivers in northwest Pakistan have begun removing audio and video equipment from their vehicles after Taliban militants threatened suicide attacks against those who played music or movies for their passengers, an industry official said Tuesday.

Transport workers in Mardan town received letters this week from militants saying that buses offering such entertainment were guilty of spreading "vulgarity and obscenity," Walid Mir, general secretary of the town's transport union, told The Associated Press.

The militants said they would check the buses and that suicide attacks would be carried out against vehicles that still had audio and video equipment — prompting union members to act quickly, Mir said.



from:

www.compassdirect.org...




Thursday January 22, 2009
TURKEY: ANCIENT MONASTERY THREATENED
Muslims’ legal action against 1,600-year-old structure called ‘malicious.’
ISTANBUL, January 22 (Compass Direct News) – Syriac Christians in southeastern Turkey say a land dispute over the historic Mor Gabriel Monastery is part of a larger system of discrimination against the religious minority in this overwhelmingly Islamic country. Muslim residents of southeastern Turkey dispute the boundary lines of an ancient Christian monastery dating to the fourth century as being unnecessarily large for the needs of a religious community. Islamic leaders from Yayvantepe, Eglence and Candarli are attempting to confiscate one-third of the monastery’s property, claiming it was wrongfully appropriated and that they need it for their livestock. The mayors of the three towns also charged the monastery with attempting to proselytize young children (illegal in Turkey) and carrying out “anti-Turkish” activity. Metropolitan Timotheos Samuel Aktas, leader of the monastery, said in a report that these claims were groundless and of the same provocative nature that has historically sparked violence against Turkey’s Christians. “All the allegations are frivolous and vexatious, devoid of any logic or evidence, solely aimed with the malicious intent of rousing anti-Christian sentiments by the surrounding Muslim villages,” he said.


from:

www.news.com.au...




EXCLUSIVE: A MELBOURNE Islamic cleric has told his male followers they can force their wives to have sex and hit them if they are disobedient.

Coburg's self-styled cleric Samir Abu Hamza said despite Australian rape laws it was impossible for a man to rape his wife even if she refused to have sex with him.

In a recorded lecture entitled "The Keys to a Successful Marriage", delivered to his male worshippers but now broadcast on the internet and viewed by several thousand people, Mr Hamza said Islamic law allowed men to hit their wives as a last resort, but they were not to make them bleed or become bruised.

He said under Islamic law, as described in a koranic verse, it was a man's right to demand sex from his wife whenever he felt like it.


from:

www.thisislondon.co.uk...




Right-wing author is banned from Islam talk
Jack Lefley
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A right-wing writer has been banned from chairing a debate on Islam at the London School of Economics today amid security fears, the Standard has learned.

Douglas Murray, a self-confessed “neo conservative”, was due to chair “Islam or Liberalism: Which is the Way Forward?” at the university tonight — 24 hours after the end of a week-long sit in at LSE in protest at Israel's attacks on Gaza.

The commentator and author, who is the director of conservative think-tank the Centre for Social Cohesion, said: “This is back to the bad old days of the LSE — where the most violent get to dictate people's education. It is worse than censorship — it's intimidation.” The debate, which is set to go ahead, is between Dr Alan Sked, a senior lecturer in international history at the university, and Hamza Andreas Tzortzis, a Muslim writer and lecturer.



from:

www.iht.com...




A SHACKLED REFORMATION
Egypt persecutes Muslim moderates
By Ahmed Subhy Mansour Published: January 23, 2009


Many Americans do not realize that there is a war being waged in Egypt against Muslim reformers. These reformers call themselves "Koranists" because they focus solely on the Koran and advocate a modern interpretation of Islam that rejects Shariah law.

These self-declared leaders of the "Islamic Reformation" number in the thousands and are connected globally through the Internet. . . . . Al Azhar University, which is based in Cairo and is the leading center for conservative Sunni learning in the world, has rejected the views of the Koranists and has sought to systematically dismantle the movement.

To curry favor with this influential religious establishment, the Egyptian government has brutally cracked down on members of the Koranist movement, leading to the imprisonment and torture of over 20 members and the exile of many more. This unique collaboration between the government and Islamic traditionalists refutes current claims by the state that Egypt is secular and that it is working to fight extremism and terrorism.

In the latest effort to destroy this fledgling reform movement, a young Koranist blogger named Reda Abdel Rahman was arrested on Oct. 27 and charged with "insulting Islam." Rahman's popular blog criticizes the religious establishment - largely based on his training at Al Azhar. His blog calls for widespread religious and political reform in Egypt and the larger Muslim world. According to Rahman's lawyers, his arrest was requested by the head of Al Azhar after Rahman refused to suspend his blog. He was then detained and tortured in an unknown location for over a month until international pressure forced the government to disclose his whereabouts.

"The Egyptian security position . . . is incomprehensible" . . . "They allow visits to the families of Muslim...



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posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 11:57 PM
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Just... wow. Slide under a gas truck.
LEAVE NO BIBLE UN-HUMPED!


you'd make a good muslim, or satanist or both.




Allah created everything that is in the Heavens and everything that is on the Earth, tell me what did Jesus create that you should equate Him with the Lord of the Worlds? By his own admission he cannot even create a single fly and yet most people has chosen him as Lord over the Lord of all Creation. Jesus never spoke a single word of his own but spoke only the words of Him who sent him, and that is Allah.


Allah is a moon god. if an Egyptian trader comes along one day and says Ra is the god of all Ra is the creator, Ra is the god of Jesus Christ, does that all of a sudden mean Ra is all these things because some fool said so, or is the Egyptian just delusional and wants to put his pagan god in the place of the God of Jesus Christ?

Your either a muslim yourself or you have subscribed to the cowardly debased doctrine of theosophy, that avoids any credible historical research of evidence or documents
You just simply surmise that every religion is the same, every god is the same and all those terrorists are actually fundamentalist extremists that have got it all wrong because they follow the Koran when they should be theosophistic and ignore their religious leaders and their prophet
Christianity is the opposite to Islam, Christ has nothing to do with mohumed! Mohumeds version of the NT and the OT is not factual, it is unsubstantiated, historically incorrect, and a complete construct of mohumeds imagination
This is not “my religion is better then yours” it is an appeal to Islamic sympathizers to look at the facts the different texts the historical evidence and discern the difference that is blatantly obvious!



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 12:02 AM
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I do believe some of what queenofangels_17 said. But I am a Christian. And I believe that Jesus is the son of God. TO find God you must have Jesus in your hear. But I do believe the OP is fake. I believe the message real. The Islam extremist believe in killing there enemy, and that they will go to heaven if they kill the enemy. And I believe these alone shows that Islam is wrong. But Christianity is doing it too. But at least we're not bent on killing everyone!!!



posted on Jan, 25 2009 @ 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by slymattb
I do believe some of what queenofangels_17 said. But I am a Christian. And I believe that Jesus is the son of God. TO find God you must have Jesus in your hear. But I do believe the OP is fake. I believe the message real. The Islam extremist believe in killing there enemy, and that they will go to heaven if they kill the enemy. And I believe these alone shows that Islam is wrong. But Christianity is doing it too. But at least we're not bent on killing everyone!!!


Very good. Jesus says he is the truth. And so only by truth can you come to the father. This truth can be expressed in many ways, and is expressed in different cultures, just as the word we have for rose is not the same word they have, but means the same thing. A rose by any other name still smells the same.

Being able to look at things from both sides is how you keep from being the hypocrite. As you look at things from the other side, then you see the beam in your own eye. Where as if you look at it from only your side, all you see is their beam. And by seeing that both sides do this in error, you are doing that.

Good post, I didn't think this thread was going to show any intelligence.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 03:39 AM
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I do believe some of what queenofangels_17 said. But I am a Christian. And I believe that Jesus is the son of God. TO find God you must have Jesus in your hear. But I do believe the OP is fake. I believe the message real. The Islam extremist believe in killing there enemy, and that they will go to heaven if they kill the enemy. And I believe these alone shows that Islam is wrong. But Christianity is doing it too. But at least we're not bent on killing everyone!!!


Do not be fooled brother, allah is not the god of Christ he is the god of mohumed and a pagan god at best
the god of Christ is the God Christ described in complete contrasted to the mohummedan god
if you accept allah as the god of Christ you might as well accept mohumeds version of Christ and thus Christ is a mere prophet, a man, nothing but a sign post to mohumed and you shall be not a Christian but a muslim. Open your eyes, read, research and seek truth and you will only find the obvious difference between the god of hate and the God of Christ
do not accept the NWO agenda of theosophy either it is the religion of the AC.



posted on Jan, 26 2009 @ 10:47 PM
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Guys, guys, guys...

The israel vs palastine part:

Many mid eastern folk are anti israel, because foriegn govs gave them land belonging to another state. Thats why they fight all day long.

Islam vs...

There is no need to defend the great faith, against silly extracts of fourth and fifth hand information. Come on (pls get a life).

If you would like to continue the debate, why not look at the masters of comparative faiths like Mr Deedat found here.. (also Dr Zakir Naik) uk.youtube.com...

If you think there is an evangelistic preacher who can debunk islam orwould like to debate it , see if he has against the other two I've mentioned here. If he hasn't then honestly he's not that good.

Anti islam fashionable on the catwalks this season for spring 2009:

Some of you are on this site because you choose not to conform with mainstream media and general subject conformity. How can you be so stupid to think that all muslims are terrorists and killers.
Wake up internet surfers of enlightenment , WAR is good for government contractors who are part owned by the bush family. Taking oil is good for the american automotive and energy companys, industrial contractors etc, etc, War on Terror + invading other places = USA and Collaborative governments making serious dough.

one last thing.

The Man... well he wants us to fight each other. united we stand, divided we fall.

Israel are bombing the # out of palastine and refusing aid into it
and using chemical weapons on infant children.

These are the innocents, the little boys who run into gunfire to get stones to throw at israeli soldiers who are shooting at them.

The boys grow up to be recruits, the cycle continues, THIS IS NOT TERRORISIM THIS IS THE OPPRESSED PEOPLE FIGHTING BACK.
BECAUSE WE LET THEIR FREINDS AND FAMILY DIE.

We the citizens from western europe and the usa who value our freedoms
and democracy, we cant even tell our governments properly to stop this mess as they usually profit from it buy selling arms through third partys.

My Name is 261NE.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 04:47 PM
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Hi, please note that people use the info from Qur`an out of context to suit them self, what you need is to read it yourself. Every chapter/verse has a reason to exist and if one reads it with intention to gain benefit surely he will get it.

YOU MUST READ QUR`AN its purely for mankind not only for the Muslim or the Christians etc. Qur`an is full of WARNINGS and REMINDERS it is a complete manual for humans with DOs and DONTs.

As for getting virgins for dying in the name of Allah, I can only say this briefly that there is nothing wrong with that, soldiers kill for their kings, queens, presidents and prime ministers and are rewarded only piece of metal, what would you have?

Zaf



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Notroh est
America already has voted in a muslim President
American laws, institutions will become muslim friendly, abortion will be taught to American children while mass imports of islamics will flood the nation
Obama will pull US troops from mid east and probly start a war in Asia leaving the muslim world unmolested and free to strengthen its position, while America will weaken all the more
911 succeeded in its objective, it weakened the US
Moral fortification is what the US needed to defeat the Islamic regime, teach family and Christian values
Not abortion and celebrity values
But a nation willing to vote in the enemy to rule them is a defeated nation, sadly.

What a load of utter paranoid bollices!
I can't believe anyone could take all this bovine excrement seriously... No, really, what complete and total paranoia. I feel really sorry for anyone living their American life in fear because they believe all this rubbish. It's as bad as the OP...
I am editing to add that I am a Christian, not a Muslim, but nevertheless, those who believe that Islam is some kind of evil world-conquering America-destroying cult, are completely wrong. Americans especially should ask Dubya's question "why do they hate us?" and answer it not with a lie, as Dubya did, but with the truth - "They hate us because we have been killing them and stealing their natural resources for decades".
To those who assert "Allah is a moon-god" I say, learn some linguistics! Allah is simply the Arabic word for God, and Arabic speaking Christians use it.
Vicky
edit on 27/12/10 by Vicky32 because: To add something...



posted on Dec, 27 2010 @ 11:41 PM
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The only problem that I have with this is it smacks of a Hoax and a made up story, and I've seen atheists do the same kind of thing.

It makes its point, sure, but it's inauthenticity disgusts me.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 11:45 AM
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Many people still think that Jesus - peace and blessings be upon him - didn't know Allah ! which is wrong.
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