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posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 08:07 AM
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posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 08:21 AM

Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by WyrdeOne

I am totally different. I do not hold hands with a socialist who wants to destroy our way of life.

You need to realize that is my position.

So, if it is against your position, it is not classless to act like a classless buffoon? It is only classless when other people act like you about things you like? What is your logic here?

posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 08:22 AM

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posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 08:25 AM

Originally posted by jsobecky
That would have been the biggest coverup, employed so many people, had to have been so intricately timed, financed, and manned, to have been impossible.

Like the moon landings? Like stem cell research? Like the thing being done at CERN? All impossibly expensive and laborious tasks. I guess none of them happened according to that logic.

This thread is not about 9/11 or the people that believe or do not believe it was an inside job now is it? I do not want to upset your mod friend by responding to you about what you say.

posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 08:28 AM
reply to post by FlyersFan

You seem to be forgetting that it was the US who supplied Saddam with those materials. And you also seem to be foretting that the reason why Saddam attacked the Kurds, which were on the side of Iran. You are also forgetting that Iraq and Iran were, and still are, enemies.

So with that in mind, it makes more sense that King Gorgie N Co, would move in on Saddam to get rid of the evidence of the US supplying Saddam with those materials back in the 80's and that King Gorgie's dad failed in the first attempt to eliminate that evidence, hence King Gorgie N Co moves in under the assumption..and you and the other supporters of King Gorgie N Co's little white lie, buying it hook line and "sucker", of Saddam intending to use those already depleated materials that would not have done him any good against anyone, that he had active WMD.

And its been proven, even by King Gorgie N Co themselves, that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, had no WMD's of any significance, and that priorities of going after public enemy #1 was no longer a priority.

Your still intending on accepting their lie and cover up and more lies about what they did and what they said?

Talk about being way behind. Well I cant help but get a good laugh at those who still seem to think there were justifiable reasons for the invasion of Iraq. Even thousands of service men and women have said many times..what the hell are we doing there.

I can guarantee you this...there is FAR more evidence and proof that it was all a fisad than any evidence of what was sold to the public to warrant an invasion.

Its been examined, proven, shown on news, documentaries, testimony in congressional hearings, that it was all one huge your all mighty King Gorgie N Co.

NO I am not going to go chase after that proof for you. Google is your friend.


posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 09:28 AM
Bush kept us all safe from attacks from outer space and killer bees after 9/11 as well. But to what extent we will never know,lol. Say,wasn't that anthrax attack after 9/11?

posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 09:48 AM
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Thank you GWB -- without your complete incompetence, it would have been years before we elected a black man to the presidency. For that I am grateful.

Of course you did leave a flaming bag of dog poop on our doorstep, but I have faith that America can clean up the mess you made.

posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 10:09 AM

Originally posted by jsobecky
To all of you saying 9/11 was an inside sad fools. The world is laughing at you. You have ZERO evidence of that notion

ZERO evidence? LOL.

I guess you haven't done any independent research.

Have you ever heard of Operation Northwoods?


See The 9/11 Reichstag Fire

The most ridiculous conspiracy theory -- the one that could NOT have happened -- is that 19 cave-dwelling Arabs with boxcutters confounded the world's most sophisticated military. Six or seven of those "hijackers" are still alive!

Even the FBI doesn't think Osama bin Laden was involved.

BTW, "the world" knew 9/11 was an inside job before most Americans.

Here's some more of that "ZERO evidence:"
(disregard all the 'secondary explosions')

Do you still think there's ZERO evidence?

Here's just a few of the many groups who are investigating 9/11:

Patriots Question 9/11

Architects and Engineers For 9/11 Truth

Pilots For 9/11 Truth

Physics 9/11: Scientific Panel Investigating 9/11

Scholars For 9/11 Truth

Scholars For 9/11 Truth & Justice

Portion of letter from military veteran and American patriot Harold Saive to the FBI:

I recently viewed a lecture presented by Architect Richard Gage – founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. ( The lecture: 9/11: Blueprint for Truth, is available for online streaming at:

Richard Gage is a practicing architect in California and with 20 years of experience with recent projects designing large steel-frame buildings. He has organized over 500 building professionals, architects and engineers to petition congress for a new investigation of the terror attacks of 9/11/2001.

After some initial skepticism, I found AE911Truth not to be an organization of conspiracy theorists but rather a group of over 500 architects and engineers and nearly 2,700 associate supporters risking their professional livelihood as American patriots to bring the “inconvenient truth” that three (3) World Trade Center buildings were deliberately demolished by controlled demolition on 9/11/2001.

After viewing the lecture I became very disturbed that in seven years the overwhelming evidence of controlled demolition has not yet succeeded to convene a Grand Jury to assess the need for a criminal investigation.

I recall long ago when President Bush promised a full investigation of 9/11, but today we still have no trial with sworn witnesses, evidence and testimony conducted in a court of law.

The implication of Gage’s conclusions are horrific when I consider 9/11 terror was used as a pretext for the invasion of two countries and the huge loss of civilian lives in the US, Iraq, and Afghanistan. When I discovered that our own FBI admits they have no evidence that Osama Bin Laden was involved with the 9/11 attacks I feel compelled to bring my discovery to the attention to every member of congress, senate and sitting federal judge that I possibly can.

In his presentation, Gage employs the scientific method to test the theory of controlled demolition vs. the government’s finding (NIST) that fire was responsible for the collapses of three World Trade Center (WTC) buildings, WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7.

Hard evidence exists in the USGS aerial survey that recorded surface temperatures between 1,160 and 1,377 Deg. F. were measured for five weeks following 9/11/2001. Workers at the sites witnessed molten steel at all three building sites confirming the underground temperatures exceeded the melting point of steel, or 2,750 deg. F. The hypothesis with the best probability to fit these finding is that controlled demolition with incendiaries like thermite was the cause.

I now share the following conclusions with Richard Gage and more than 500 Architects and Engineers subscribed to his group of Architects and Engineers and thousands on non-professionals subscribed to his group:

1) Richard Gage has proved the hypothesis of controlled demolition beyond any reasonable doubt and that the government’s published conclusions can not possibly be true. Fires could not have burned hot enough to cause the collapse of WTC1,WTC2 or WTC7. Amazingly, the government investigators (NIST) admitted that they never tested the hypothesis for controlled demolition in any scenario. (When will they?)

2) Controlled Demolition was responsible for the collapse of all 3 WTC buildings. All of the compelling evidence presented by Gage completely matches the hypothesis of controlled demolition. Common sense tells me that steel and other metal parts inside jet engines will not melt, even after many hours of burning fuel in the air or on the ground.

3) I believe that a reasonable person, presented with all the evidence in a court of law would find that the official government explanation that concludes that fire was the cause of the gravitational speed collapses of all 3 skyscrapers can not possibly be true.

4) I viewed the 2006 PBS documentary: “America Rebuilds” to see Larry Silverstein, owner of WTC7, admit that he got a call from the fire chief to suggest that they “pull” (deliberately demolish) WTC7. This is a shocking confession that deserves screaming headlines, yet Silverstein has never been accused of terrorism, nor has he been placed under oath to answer to his own admission as a willing accessory to the deliberate destruction of WTC7. Just as disturbing is the mainstream media’s failure to report this story.

5) A 2007 Zogby poll revealed that half of New Yorkers believe US leaders had
foreknowledge of an impending terror attack and “consciously failed” to act. Two-thirds
(66%) of New Yorkers called for a new probe of unanswered questions by Congress or New York’s Attorney General. Source:

6) A 2006 Scripps Howard poll found that one-third of the American public suspects that
federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East. Source:

Letter of reply from the FBI

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posted on Jan, 24 2009 @ 10:41 AM
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While I'm not totally convinced it was an inside job, I will admit there is compelling evidence.

For someone to completely dismiss the notion that 9/11 was an inside job BECAUSE it's a 'conspiracy theory' is incredibly stupid and ignorant.

Enter everything with an open mind, and go where the evidence takes you.

I for one am almost 100% positive building 7 was a controlled demolition. There's no way a building falls at near the speed of gravity, with almost no impedance, in it's own footprint without demolition charges.

Plus you have all of the evidence, including the building owner, saying 'Pull it, there have been too many deaths today.' Pull it means pull the charges, drop the building.

That being said, even if you don't believe it to be an inside job. You have to admit that Bush messed up in allowing the attacks to happen, ignoring evidence, and then giving up the pursuit of Bin Laden 6 months after the attacks.

Bush on 9/13/01:

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."

Bush on 3/13/02, 6 months later:

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."

"I am truly not that concerned about him."

That's despicable, to just forget about the person who killed almost 3,000 Americans... How can you support this man?

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