Tasteless jokes are now a crime?, page 3
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reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 11:37 AM by Exuberant1
reply to post by blupblup



*should it be ok to make jokes about rape, paedophilia, 9/11, disabilities...cancer?*


Yes. If by OK you mean legal.

It should be legal to say whatever I am thinking no matter how horrible my thoughts in verbal form may be to you or anyone.

Freedom of speech Rights exist primarily to protect Unpopular speech - that is the kind of speech that needs protection.

It is sad that I actually have to point this out to you.


reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 11:50 AM by Ahabstar
Hmm seems to me a good number of people need to watch The People vs. Larry Flynt to gain a true perspective of just how far the protections of freedom of Speech go.

For those that are a bit more interested in the case and don't particularly care for watching Woody Harrelson (or more specifically Courtney Love try to act, eventhough the role was not much of a stretch).

Larry Flynt was sued by Rev Jerry Falwell over satire in a libel case. The joke article in question deals with how Falwell lost his virginity to his mother in an outhouse. It was agreed that it was tasteless humor and that it could be considered libel except for the expressed fact that since Falwell was a public figure he was open to satire.

In my opinion, the city worker has a case for wrongful termination and since the reasons for his departure were made public he could be entitled to a very large settlement as he can show damages from potential earnings. While I don't agree with what the city worker posted, it is his right to be as tasteless as he wants to be.

I will also add that in the pursuit of comedy that sometimes the subject matter is not always well received. While I do try to keep mine to the high ground there are a good number of bad jokes out there that are indeed quite humorous. What keeps me from using them is that given the anonymity of the internet it prevents people from understanding that the level of the humor does not reflect how I personally am and what my opinions are.

The city worker may or may not be bigoted at all. The guy may just suffer from a lack of good judgment and sense of humor. But if we want to study the negative effects of stereotypes and how it can become hate speech and should not be protected, then we have to realize what the limitations and pitfalls of legislating morality are.

We can begin with the benediction given by Rev Lowery. And how racial divisions condoned by President Obama not only here but throughout his campaign could be used as misguided focal points should the economy continue fail and millions more find themselves unemployed. But in that context, maybe the reason I fail to get ahead man is because I look too much like I do not embrace what is right.


reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 11:51 AM by LoneGunMan
reply to post by blupblup






Oh man that Jason Rouse routine was very sick...and very funny.

If someone goes too far (remember Andrew Dice Clay?) they will just go away into obscurity. If you don't like it then don't watch/read/listen to it.

All too easy.


reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 12:12 PM by blupblup
reply to post by Exuberant1



My point is not should these rights exist in comedy..... i think they should..
Jason rouse is hilarious...

the point is should you have the right to say it to or about people at work, on the street or wherever... i don't think you should.

You don't have to explain anything to me....and I'm not American, therefore the laws you're referring to have no relevance to my life...

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