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At a minimum, hyper-inflation is a certainty.
Haven't you noticed, and probably verbalized to someone, that it does not matter for whom you vote? Haven't you heard it said that there is not a "dime's worth of difference" between Democrat and Republican parties? Of course, you have! Thomas Jefferson warned us that such a pattern is proof of a conspiracy!
What i want to know is where are the Republicans and Democrats who post on ATS? Why do they never comment on these things? Would they rather argue about issues or who did what wrong and who is to blame...endless finger pointing? There are countless threads right now with these same things happening. When i first started posting here I was one of them. At one point i started to realize that the same things i was accusing the other party of...i was guilty of defending the other on the same thing. I realized i was being hypocritical.
Originally posted by David9176
They've been investing money in various areas for years. Why do you think we have a 53 trillion dollar debt staring us in the face? We have gigantic social programs that we don't have the money for on top of the trillions that they seem to keep throwing on the pile.
If it all straightens out...by some crazy miracle...do you think it's going to be infrastructure and green jobs that does it? This is what you think will pull the country out of this gigantic mess? It looks more to me like peeing in the wind than a fix.
This stimulus package won't change anything. It won't erase the debt. It won't erase the out of control spending. It will raise an inevitable HUGE increase in taxes....taxes that we pay far too much of already..for things many of us don't even approve of.
Originally posted by Maxmars
Originally posted by LostNemesis
Originally posted by Maxmars
Disregard their noise. Establish a new FREE press, a press between friends, speak to each other, openly, without fear. Strengthen your social ties to your immediate local community. Forget the Federal government; they do NOT represent US, (no pun intended). DO NOT accept unjust laws. A law which is unjust is immoral and treason - at least in MY America. DO NOT succumb to fear of the government, fear leads to violence..., that is THEIR tool, it CANNOT be ours. Speak to each other of America. What she is, DESPITE what 'they' are doing. If our representatives insist on dong it their way, we have every right to disenfranchise them from our society by our own personal actions. DO the right thing for and to each other. Expect justice, do not seize it. Justice will come. It ALWAYS does.
[edit on 22-1-2009 by Maxmars]
Excellent post Max but...how can we not accept unjust laws without violence? I am not an advocate for violence, I'm just wondering how you would propose we go about it.
How do we not succumb to fearing our government when it is they who will be violent when we disinfranchise them via our own personal actions? If I do not fear my government, and refuse to go along with their oppression, would not this act of defiense lead to violence?
Please help us see how we can deal with exercising our freedoms peacefully without getting killed for it. I think there is a way. Gandhi is an example but how will that work if not everyone goes along with it. I have a feeling too many people here in America will turn to violence.
If it comes down to ridding the population, it's kill or be killed...is it not?
reply to post by David9176
It's democrats and republicans attacking each other on HOW TO INCREASE OUR DEBT. It's ridiculous.