Toy's to help our kids acclimate to the police state

Here are REAL toys that were REAL educational pieces!




And its companion..




And for those future aviation mechanics...




And yes...even for those future soldiers and sailors of the US military service!!







Fine examples of toys from a creative era now long gone.


They dont make anything like this these days.



Cheers!!!!

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of course they do, kids still love making stuff

here's one on amazon, just type engine model toy into google.

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Ya that one is cool! My son wishes it was visible like the Renwal's.

Revell has a modernized visible V-8 but it doesnt have the lighted spark plugs or electric starter motor, it has a hand crank.

Still these kinds of toys are far better than this check point stuff!! Heh, my kids laughed at it!!



Cheers!!!

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Man, real toys were the best. Models used to be a complicated drawn out process different from building the actual item represented only in scale and functionality. Now a plane is a wing piece slid through a fuselage piece and viola! you've "built" a model plane.

I really miss my steel trucks and tractors. I had this crane that was so freaking sweet all steel with steel cable up the arm and a working mechanism. I used to stack bricks on it to weigh it down so I could lift really heavy stuff with the crane. I suppose bricks are too dangerous now too.

If I gave my kids real metal trucks to play with sooner or later one would cut himself on the jagged teeth of the payloader bucket (as I did a few times) and the government would take them away and charge me with abuse.

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$60!!!! WTF!!??

Xbox games cost $60 too. I can imagine a parent giving their kid a choice, model engine or Halo 3? What will todays kid pick?

I have a feeling those models are only bought by nostalgic adults and maybe a handful of gearhead kids.

Haha, are you seriouse? Check points, crime scene investigation, and prison toys? Why would you ever come up with this stuff as entertaining? It was fun to see mommy and daddy frisked at the air port so you want to re-enact it?

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Those real ones sure were alot of fun to build werent they! I got 3 complete sets of the visible v8 and auto chassis still in their boxes unbuilt, saving them for when my kids have kids and they can be passed down. But I also have one of each that is completely built and still functions today after nearly 35 years of sitting on the display shelf!


Here is another old era model. What do you all think of this one?!!



Some kind of message with this one? Na, just a really cool model during the time of the Cuban missile crisis.

All these models I have shown links to come from the years 1959 through 1970.

Classics through and through!


Cheers!!!!

that's the biggest part of the problem, when did giving a 14 year old a free choice seem like a good idea.

kids do need to learn to stand on their own feet and make choices but the level of choice available is overwhelming. allowing a free choice like that is irresponsible.

and kids don't even like having that much choice, they naturally narrow it down by taking a lead from their favorite pop star or their peer group or whatever.

don't say "what would you like", say "would you like a visable v8 or would you like mechano". 9 times in 10 they'll choose one or the other and the 10th time it will usually be a request for a visable v6 or lego or something simular to the choices you offered.

When I first saw this, I was absolutely stunned. Great post! It's astonishing to think that these toys could actually be designed and manufactured. Maybe Revell could start making unmarked LearJets for "extraordinary rendition".

But, paradoxically, this thread - or, specifically, the reviews on Amazon - have actually restored my faith in human nature. I actually took the first one seriously for a sentence or two, and then I realised it was the best of the lot! Very dry, very subtle.

If you didn't bother to read the customer reviews, go back and do it. They're absolutely superb. And did you see the "tags associated with this product"? Fascism, new world order,...

Playmobil are clearly cornering the police state market niche - the SWAT team mega pack, which has 5 pieces; the police station, the roadblock set...



Thank heavens for real people.

More thoughts...

Of course, I grew up building model airplanes. What kind of planes? Duh. Fighters, bombers... not too many airliners. Concorde, because it is still one of the coolest planes ever, and a 747, because it was big. I wanted to convert my 707 into an AWACS but made a balls of it.

I don't know if you guys in the US have heard of Airfix kits, but in the UK they're bigger than, say, Revell, Recently I saw a documentary about toys which revealed that the box-top artwork for all the warplanes has been sanitized. No more explosions... one illustration that showed a plane bombing a warship has been changed so now it's just overflying it. Can't help thinking that's rather dumb, myself.

I also had an Action Man (the UK GI Joe) but was never terribly interested. Loads of my friends played war games, too.

Despite this sanitized, whizz bang approach to learning about war, I have grown up a pacifist, kind of. But I do like warplanes, they are just cool. Hate what they do, love the way they look.

I agree the toys are horrid.

But, did any of you guys read any of the reviews??
There are some real classic ones there..

This one is from the Roadblock Toy..

The comments were the best part of the listings on Amazon. Someone had mentioned earlier in the thread that they actually felt better having read those (a renewed sense of hope in mankind, etc.). When I was a kid I had all of the Star wars and GI Joe toys, and I had a bunch of transformers too (am I showing my age yet?), and it's not that I'm necessarily railing against war toys, I can see the downside, and of course I enjoyed them as a kid, and I haven't grown up to kill anyone or join the military. I think what's interesting here is the subtle process of getting our kids used to the "police state" presence, what would be fun about re-inacting a screening by the TSA in toy form? It's not fun in real life, why would it be fun in play-time?

On a side note, something I enjoyed as a kid (when I was in my early teens) were Estes model rockets, anyone remember those? I think I even had one that was supposed to be a tactical missile or ICMB if I remember correctly. Plus I had one that was an SR-71 which was pretty sweet.

Anyhow, thanks for making this an interesting thread folks, do keep it coming.
Peace,
Hex23

You rest your case? What exactly IS your case? I don't understand what you mean by "you grew up too fast!". It really doesn't make much sense to me. Yeah, that's what we did, but you can't exactly play Mafia without it.

My family is forever having to hound the School about all those forms given by the in house Social Workers and the Guidance Counselors, they now account for almost half of the school work given to school kids. Didn't know that? Pay more attention to what goes on in your kids class (This is in STL, Mo. BTW) and We have finally given them orders verbally and in writing that they are not to distribute any of these forms to our kids or they would immediately be transferred or home schooled. These forms not only question buying habits and survey their consumer responses, as well as, guaging the buying habits of their families, but, they also pry into personal aspects about the children and their families. Justify it how you want, but, in my family, too much prying can lead to getting your face shot off. there are too many ways to dispose of bodies which go unreported every year. I for one refuse to live in a police state. My family is raised to take matters into their own hands to deal with these very real threats. Any adult touches the children in my family in places they shouldn't, "authorized" or not. They die. there really is no gray area here. As for their being indoctrinated, sure, they are family indoctrinated, and everything they do and are exposed to are strictly controlled by us for just such familial indoctrination purposes. to hell with guns, we teach them, not only discipline, self control and higher education, we ultimately teach them how to kill properly and effectively with anything they can see and grab, as well as, weapons proficiency with all types of weapons, and their bare hands and bodies. They are taught how to fall, and how to take control of their environment and how to minimize the effects of potential damage-- better to be shot in the arm than the heart. This of course, is all done as they age and mature. We taught them how to read, write- properly and straight, color within the lines, read books that are well beyond what they read in school, manners, and to never let anyone touch them in ways inappropriate, and how to deal with those who do. for instance, in school they are not to respond to bully's but to immediately report to a teacher, or supervising adult, and to their families immediately. if the teacher's and supervising adults, continuosly ignore the problem, they are ttaught how to politely deal with the problem, if that doesn't work and we get tired of the abuses, they are instructed to deal with them as they would anyone else outside of school. Since we document evrything, there can be no doubt as to the method and manner of conflict resolution attempted. But if the No No areas are touched, i feel sorry for the offender, an immediate response is coming. By the way, my family have the highest scores and positions in their clases, being offered (but refused) gifted courses. they are refused because they need to be exposed to others their age, not older, and they need to be accustomed to what they'll have to deal with in life. they questioned for a long time, why other kids are so slow and behind. I could fix this Country better than any of those nuts in power. Either they are really as ignorant as my families fellow classmates (and many of their parents) or they intended a broken ignorant majority from the start and all the school money is just for Spying and Consumerism indoctrinations. These toys are just reflections of the tip of the iceberg. The best you can do for your kids is to make them good, moral, productive members of Society, while preparing them to deal with all the , bad, unproductive, immoral ones which do and will continue to outnumber them, if they are not one of the latter already.

S&F!!! I found the comments funny, I found the tag words informing, and the accompanying books sold with the purchases lend an insight into what kind of idiots would buy such things. Global Warming. Bah! And I suppose the Sun getting older, bigger, and hotter has nothing to do with nothing.

I sound serious, but, I'm actually very easy going, and once I determine the best way to deal with threats, i usually just relax, become sarcastically cynical, make jokes, and laugh. I'm not worried about anything that anyone can do. Fore Warned really is fore Armed.

And don't just blame dem's or repub's, there are way more political parties than just them. I think they all have the same goal, they just use their diverse approaches to keep folks nit- picking over useless details. As if President's aren't pre elected. My granparents believed in an idea of government, turned out it didn't really go as they believed it did either. Our Generation doesn't even bother to disillusion ourselves with lies.

I type too fast and suck at taking time to properly edit. Sorry. it's only when blogging online though. Or when something is due just as I finish scratching it out. Odd, since I've aced English, Grammar, Composition, Vocabulary, and Literature. guess, I have alot to write to alot of places and just don't have time to think through what I'm writing.

Again, Bravo on the toys, the Comments were hilarious.

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At least with all of the models ( military or not ) you had to THINK. You got a sense of accomplishment and pride. And you took care of those toys. Now a child just wants to kill or destroy something on the computer games. They are being desensitized to violence.

Let's not forget when we played War or Cops or whatever with our guns and toys we got it out of our systems, rarely did we grow up to shoot our fellow classmates. What's more, we all had guns. Would you have played if only one of you got to have a gun. Isn't that how these airport, roadblock, and prison playsets work, one is the armed officer, the other is the soon to be disarmed convict.

All the quotes merit saving before TPTB erase them so here they are:

There are more quotes than that and I think I'm going to copy and save them all for a scrap book. One lady actually defends it and would love to see strangers stick their hands in her children's arse's and hoo ha's to protect them (?)-- from what? What could possibly be in there, does she mean to protect others from her kids blowing up the plane. I'm just plain confused and disgusted by this one:


She sounds like one of those people who watched them load Orphans and Jews onto trains. You know the ones, I just showed the men at the checkpoints my papers, they were just doing their jobs, it's frustrating, but, it keeps us safe right? I mean, if it helps my kids be better people, I won't like it, but, go on ahead and send them to those State camps. I'll even pack them a lunch and see them off. I guess it's all legal, besides, I have nothing to hide. Why shouldn't I comply? Does that make me bad. Lol. Oh well, let me get two of those star emblems for my kids.

[edit on 23-1-2009 by PhyberDragon]

I've also noticed some other shocking toys that no one has touched on yet. How about the "cashless" Monopoly game they have now? Just swipe the card and presto!

Monopoly game

Talk about getting the kids used to not using money to buy things!