Michelle Obama uses Sign of Baphomet during Inaugural Parade?, page 2
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reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 09:58 AM by stevenreanimator
Sorry but I don't buy this whole theory at all for a few reasons, the "Devil Horns" and "Hook 'em Horns" signs are both just hand gestures much like the extended middle finger.

It mostly is an Italian charm called the Malocchio which is used to PROTECT you from the Evil Eye, this meaning is also referenced in Bram Stoker's Dracula (Which was written in 1897 as I'm sure we all know).

Throughout times tons of people can be seen doing it, from Hard Rock / Metal musicians, to the "cultural elite" as this thread states.



From an interview with Ronnie James Dio on Metal-Rules.com:

Metal-Rules.com – "I want to ask you about something people have asked you about before but will no doubt continue to talk about, and that is the sign created by raising your index and little finger. Some call it the "devils hand" or the "evil eye." I would like to know if you were the first one to introduce this to the metal world and what this symbol represents to you?"

R.J. Dio – "I doubt very much if I would be the first one who ever did that. That's like saying I invented the wheel, I'm sure someone did that at some other point. I think you'd have to say that I made it fashionable. I used it so much and all the time and it had become my trademark until the Britney Spears audience decided to do it as well. So it kind of lost its meaning with that. But it was…I was in Sabbath at the time. It was symbol that I thought was reflective of what that band was supposed to be all about. It's NOT the devil's sign like we're here with the devil. It's an Italian thing I got from my Grandmother called the "Malocchio". It's to ward off the Evil Eye or to give the Evil Eye, depending on which way you do it. It's just a symbol but it had magical incantations and attitudes to it and I felt it worked very well with Sabbath. So I became very noted for it and then everybody else started to pick up on it and away it went. But I would never say I take credit for being the first to do it. I say because I did it so much that it became the symbol of rock and roll of some kind.



While I know Wikipedia isn't always the best of sources however there is a lot of information below about it.

Source

While maybe some (Anton LaVey) use it for different purposes, its basic origins are not malicious or evil in any way. A sign is just that, a sign. The only meaning behind it is one you give it... there's no major conspiracy here with this one... if you can prove it, then I'll acknowledge my mistake but from everything I know (as a long time metal head and musician) points towards the same way things evolve... at one time the extended middle finger meant nothing, until someone gave it meaning. This is the same.


reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 10:49 AM by pyrytyes
reply to post by spydunson



I feel this way about it...

If it is such a big concern to know the meaning of the sign flashed by the First Lady...then...ASK her! And relay the answer to us, I for one would be soooo relieved to FINALLY get a DEFINITIVE answer.

While you are asking, do ask which finger she uses to pick her nose. That will tell us all exactly what type of person she is...


reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 07:48 PM by prevenge
Originally posted by stikkinikki
Originally posted by antar
growing up a surfer, it was common to use with friends , we used to say Shaka bra.


The whole Baphomet sign thing is overblown in my opinion. If you're from Texas it means hookem' horns. For most other people it means "we rock" of "rock and roll". We are way too easily distracted by paper tigers.


while this is true.. what better way to mix in with the unscrupulous miscellany?
i you DID want to show secret allegiance within the public media.. what better way to do it in a manner that when EVEN suspected.. would be easily discarded by the same exact logic that you've just displayed.

that .. is beyond all doubt. .the most efficient and ideal method.


jsut like anything conspiritorial.. if you're going to do something.. you're not going to do it unless you're completely 100% sure it's foolproof and you cannot be caught.
otherwise. .it's a failure from the start and you jsut don't waste time on high risk ventures that are assuredly going to fail.

what you do do. .is if you have a certain percentage of a population that may investigate upon suspection of anything.. that you've ALREADY plotted and layed out all circumstances for them to get lost in false conclusions.
even before you did it.
you lay out your cover.. your camoflauge..

otherwise.. you are absolutely caught.. and it's obvious. and you're investigated by official sources.. and eventually brought to justice..

you can avert this being played out.. by simply laying out the battlefield according to YOUR rules.. and those rules designate that any investigation would be lost in other similar conclusions.. thus dead ending it before it even begines.. short circuiting.. nipping it in the bud.


hang em horns.. heavy metal horns..... sign language for the deaf... surfer signs...


have fun in the dead ends

thre's nothing to really debate .



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[edit on 13-2-2009 by prevenge]



reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 08:03 PM by TaZCoN



hmmm I suppose she's flashing the hang loose sign in this photo too?

Perhaps telling us all in sign language how much she loves us all....


reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 08:14 PM by stikkinikki
Originally posted by TaZCoN



hmmm I suppose she's flashing the hang loose sign in this photo too?

Perhaps telling us all in sign language how much she loves us all....



That's the picture that started the thread. Good find though.


reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 08:18 PM by prevenge
Originally posted by TaZCoN



hmmm I suppose she's flashing the hang loose sign in this photo too?

Perhaps telling us all in sign language how much she loves us all....



ah the irony .. perfect example of people that don't read threads.. just click the link.. hit reply add their 2 cents and are gone...

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reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 10:35 PM by TaZCoN
Originally posted by prevenge
Originally posted by TaZCoN



hmmm I suppose she's flashing the hang loose sign in this photo too?

Perhaps telling us all in sign language how much she loves us all....



ah the irony .. perfect example of people that don't read threads.. just click the link.. hit reply add their 2 cents and are gone...

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Perhaps you should should re-read the start of this thread...

Irony indeed ; )


reply posted on 14-2-2009 @ 04:02 PM by MajesticJax
reply to post by prevenge




Attending LOTS of Longhorns games............That's where I recognize most of BUSHCO's images from.



reply posted on 14-2-2009 @ 07:21 PM by AllTiedTogether
reply to post by spydunson



I believe that the star of david is what you are seeing her create with her body position. She is probably sending a hello to the jewish people.

The sign on her hands I believe is the sign for I love you. something that the NWO has shown so much of in the last little bit. She is letting you know that you can expect the same love and concern for the american citizens as the white house's previous occupant. I mean really can it mean anything else?



Rgds


reply posted on 31-3-2009 @ 03:47 AM by RaoulDuke37
reply to post by spydunson



Baphomet? Are you kidding? You could only be referring to the 19th century invention by Eliphas Levi, which associated the "Baphomet" with the occult and is still used today in Satanism. Unfortunately, it is simply that, an invention based on an interpretation that has been hijacked in order to "identify" present world leaders as some sort of evil occult throwing signs in order to further cement their intentions to take over the world.

Please, when will it stop?
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