Obama to Bush: I Can Release Your Records. Don't Like It? Sue., page 8

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reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 07:53 AM by Clark Savage Jr.

Originally posted by JohnWdoe
This is a typical sociological event being used to enforce the system to be, the one world government.

Bush was a puppet and i would not be surprised if the people behind the scenes planned this out all to well... Its very scary to see some posters on this site think this is a "good" thing as Barack will use George and co to further degrade the country when in reality he is working with the same people who destroyed it.

This plan is so genius that i wouldn't be surprised if people even thought i was a shill or trying to "take his thunder".

How much money did these people spend on Obama to get him into this cult status??? ALOT!! now you tell me why they need this! they need to make it look so cut and dry that the average person (and you) think its just that easy, well folks Obama is the prime subject to bring in a one world government, if you look at what he speaks about the red flags should be flying all over the place.

The Federal Reserve will not stop until the dollar is broken and this is EXACTLY what Obama IS doing... now he will blame everything on Bush and his neo-con friends when in reality the situation will become there card to a "new age", this has all been planned in a sense of what human beings react to on a social level... I must say its working absolutey perfect and i don't know how long it will take people to realize whats really going on with Obama.

He tricked everyone into believing in the mutant country, not for hope but for design. We need people all hyped up and willing to throw down everything for this to work, without that normality will continue.

Normality is not the problem the Federal Reserve and its interests are, i knew its not that black and white but they will drive the country into shambles all the while we think we are being set free... It sickens me to see my thoughts which i might add gave credence to serious doubt of whats really going on, but rest assured i have known these things personally for sometime and when i see them unfold and fool i stand in shock, the manipulation being used on us is something i have never EVER seen before.

The truth seen in stuff like this is so far from the end result that it dictates the end result.

Exactly. The possibility that Obama himself is the 'false flag' so many have expressed concern about is very likely. Divide and conquer.

Even many on a website such as this are missing the entire picture.

reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 10:16 AM by gottago

Originally posted by jam321
If Obama goes after Bush, he is in for a war with the Republicans in Congress. They will scrutinized his every move and will try to impeach him for the smallest of things. Politics will be at an all time low. I got a feeling a lot of this is just wishful thinking.

And if they try that, you can write off the Republicans seeing power for a second generation. They could as well go into exile.

reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 03:39 PM by Anonymous ATS

Anyone who voted Obama into office will reap what they sew. As in a Socialist government. It's only been three days since his second official oath of office without a Bible and he's already signing executive orders not even he can answer questions to. Hold on to your wallets and your guns.

reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 05:02 PM by Angry Potato

I thought everyone on this board already knew that everything important is beyond the president. Obviously not.

reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 05:23 PM by Anonymous ATS

To bad Obama isn't forthcoming with his own stuff. Won't release names of people who donated millions of dollars to his campaign. Won't allow anyone to see his college papers, won't allow anyone to see his birth certificate. He's just another person trying to hide something. What it is we won't find out till it is too late. Everyone thinks he is some sort of "Messiah" that will deliver the US from hell. He may actually be leading the way into it. It will be many years before we can get out of the mess we got ourselves into. Obama won't be the one to get us out. The Democrats will just lead us further in with all of their spending.

reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 05:58 PM by shortywarn

Originally posted by Son Of Liberty
Wow. Maybe I was wrong about this guy.

Seems like he's doing a lot of good things, just on his first day.

i love ron paul and am conservative but,,,, i must agree

if he keeps this up,,, i will give him applause

all though it hit me,,,,,,this is just common sense,,, honest things

any idiot could be president and be considered GREAT,,,just by doing commonsense,,, practical things-------something no other prez's have been able or capable of doing

wow,,, honesty,,,responsibility, transparency, truth,,,,following rules,, constitution etc

not that hard if your not a corrupted washington big wig with no sense of commonfolk and realife,, everyday living

reply posted on 23-1-2009 @ 10:43 PM by mother1138

In the 2008 election cycle 95% of all political contributions made by trail lawyers went to the Democrat ticket. Now I see why. This will be a great big THANK YOU to them.

I can hear the paperwork being prepped for filing at the courthouses now.

reply posted on 24-1-2009 @ 09:50 AM by Aliensun

reply to post by Keyhole

Obama should first release his most "innocent" records, his birth certificate (not a "certificate of live birth--it's not the same), his school records in both Indonesia and the US, his dissertation, etc. Or is it far too late for these rather normal, innocuous things to be done?

reply posted on 24-1-2009 @ 09:57 AM by Anonymous ATS

reply to post by Keyhole

Obama wants full disclosure of President Bush's records. Why didn't Obama release ANY of hiw own records? Real birth certificate, college records, financial aid records, passport records, etc etc
Answer: Because he knows these records would reveal he is not a natural born American citizen. There are groups working to get these records revealed. When this happens, any documents this pretender signed will be null and void.

reply posted on 24-1-2009 @ 12:41 PM by Keyhole

I think Obama made the right decision doing this.

Recent history shows us how past presidents have tried to use "executive privilege", not for military or national security reasons, but just to cover things up that might embarrass them or their administration.

I don't agree with the title of this article below, I think some things really do need to be kept secret, but this quote below from the article kind of sums up why Obama has done this.

Obama Should Swear Off Executive Privilege

Subsequent presidents Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, and George H.W. Bush periodically invoked executive privilege, but it was the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations that really abused the idea.

Bill Clinton invoked executive privilege to keep the health care task forces held by his wife Hillary Clinton shielded from federal open meetings laws. He would again invoke the doctrine to stymie investigations into Hillary Clinton's firing of White House Travel Office employees, and then again to prevent his aides from testifying in the Monica Lewinsky case (he lost that particular fight in court).

George W. Bush moved early to shore up executive privilege, blocking efforts to investigate his predecessor Clinton's role in the fundraising scandal involving campaign contributions from non-U.S. citizens. He also blocked investigations into Clinton Attorney General Janet Reno. Bush's non-partisan deference to presidential power reaped benefits, as he'd go on to invoke executive privilege to thwart attempts by Congress to look into his own administration's scandals, including the U.S. attorney firings, years of missing White House emails, and the cover-up of the friendly fire death of U.S. Army Ranger and former NFL star Pat Tillman.

Do you really think these were invoked for national security reasonds?

Executive privilege invoked, but not for military or national security reasons over and over again.

What we see, over and over, is that the executive privilege doctrine is most often invoked to prevent congressional committees, independent counsel, and other oversight bodies from investigating possible legal and ethical breaches by members of the executive branch. It's not being used to promote candor and open dialogue among presidential advisers, but to prevent the public from learning about possible abuses of power by members of the administration, and from holding those members accountable.

This is why Obama has done this.

And, when his presidency is over, hopefully because of this, if Obama or a member of his administration does anything "wrong", we will be able to find out.

[edit on 1/24/2009 by Keyhole]

reply posted on 24-1-2009 @ 02:45 PM by Anonymous ATS

reply to post by damwel

They will do that anyway, I assure you. Don't you remember Clinton? Remember an impeachment over a lie about an extramarital affair? Pathetic, totally partisan.

The difference now is Obama doesn't have anything to hide (open government) whereas Bush hid everything. He had to, he was raking in a fortune at the expense of the nation.

I believe that was PURGERY under Oath no less.

Hide? He's just getting started and already behaving like an elitiest. All the Kood-Aid Drinkers are going to get educated in the next few months...lol

reply posted on 24-1-2009 @ 04:16 PM by moniker

Originally posted by kyred
reply to post by Keyhole

Well, what goes around comes around I have heard. Great, when the next president takes over he can expose Obama's secret files, too.

Yes. Isn't that a good thing?

reply posted on 28-1-2009 @ 07:15 AM by TiM3LoRd

hmmmmmm i dont know what to make of this

reply posted on 30-1-2009 @ 04:46 AM by TrueBrit

reply to post by Anonymous ATS

I believe that some of the people posting under anon in this thread , are anti disclosure. Unfortunately that makes them either stupid or sinister, and I dont much care for it.
Fact is, whatever Obama has done with his own records, these new measures and the ability to release files are absolutely required! Confidence in the government in America was so damned poor before he got elected, because everything that mattered a damn to the people (i.e. the behaviour of thier president and his staff, the particulars of the war in iraq , the level of corruption high up the chain) was kept from thier sight. Obama sees this , and he acts. I really dont see what your problem with that is. If my countries leader did the same thing, then I would be over the moon.
It is my belief , as I have stated all over this site, that all mankind have the RIGHT to all human knowledge, and NO man, or organisation has the right to stand in the way of that. It is the only way forward. If knowledge is truely power, then the only way to make every person equal, is for every person to be able to access all available information. Secrets are for dinosaurs , ignorant fools who look to the past with fondness and the future with fear.

reply posted on 30-1-2009 @ 05:43 AM by Nonchalant

Great, I suggest we flip straight to the chapter on 9/11 where he signed off on the crime of the century.

Only make sure you charge him & his crew in a state that supports capital punishment.

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