Obama to Bush: I Can Release Your Records. Don't Like It? Sue.

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posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 04:09 AM
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posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 04:13 AM
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obama had better watch not to get himself shot...

capping washington salaries, and withdrawing executive orders that are ultimatly protecting the top scum...

someone behind the curtains pull some strings quick,
your puppet may be trying to run free!



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 04:18 AM
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Obama, hope you're not playing a game. Maybe I was wrong about you.

Actions speak louder than words, and so far your actions 'sound' very positive.



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 04:22 AM
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If President Obama ever took any actions such as these, if this story is in fact true, then he would forever be making the greatest mistake of his career. Remember folks, what goes around, comes around, and that applies to President Obama as much as anyone else.



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 04:32 AM
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jdub sounds like a Bush lover so maybe he's getting upset that Obama may reveal some truths about him....Im from the UK and this pleases me too....I hope he doesnt try do too much too soon and plays everything cool...



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 04:42 AM
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[off-topic and irrelevant comments removed]

now that im done complaining about children back to the topic

obama is off to a good start, im glad things are going this way, but we need to not jump the gun with optimism, he has a lot to do if he wants to truly implement change, and personally i do care where he was born, because yes right now he is doing the job properly but its a dangerous slope if he truly wasnt born here, it opens the doors to serious issues during the following elections in the future of the USA, so we need to not forget about issues at hand just because hes a good magician with a good slight of hand, just because hes doing alot of good in one hand doesnt mean we should forget he has 2

i may be cynical in this way of thinking, but i think we need to not jump the gun and shower him with praise too early

[edit on 22-1-2009 by 12m8keall2c]



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 05:22 AM
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Yesterday someone on ATS reminded me not to judge Obama to soon. With the freezing of salary I kept skeptical in the light of the economic situation. This is something big. Although trials can take years with all procedures and lawyers?

If this is true and Obama keeps going this way you can guess the fed is next. And roundup of all thieves instigators of the generated crisis. That would be awesome, but very dangerous and not think the guilty are going down quiet.

The first steps are certainly good enough to appease the public. And make it hard to be against something unpopular which may follow soon after. According to NASA Obama has about 4 years to rescue the earth. So no time to waste.



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 05:27 AM
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This news gave me a hearty chuckle over my morning coffee, just thinking about the look on W.'s face. I guess he thought he'd scoot on off to Texas without a hitch.

What is worrisome is Obama's safety by opening this big, big can of worms.



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 05:41 AM
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"Remember the wolf in a sheep disguise only tries to lead the sheep into his own path; whatever that may be."

Just because he's doing "good" thing on his first day doesn't mean anything.

A lot of people can say Bush did "good" things when he said, "I'll go after the terrorists," and we saw how that ended up.



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 05:43 AM
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This is an excellent first move by Obama.

He's already delivering on his promises, and I hope that it continues. Of course, this puts him in greater risk though.

The problem with Bush was that he could find a way to make anything he wanted hidden a matter of "National Security". Anything that could cause dissent could be viewed as a risk to security. Anything that could potentially make any single American angry could put his safety at risk and therefore the security of the nation. This is why he got away with so much!

I give it six months before info is being sent out under the freedom of information (or your equivalent) and Bush's history comes back to bite him on the ass.

And rightly so. America is for the people, not the protection of the few. You gave Bush that job, and as an employee he has a duty to be open and honest with you. You paid him for 8 years to represent your country, the least he could have done was tell you the truth in several situations that deserved it.

I really hope Obama knocks the doors off the capital, and makes every American aware of the gross corruption expected to have been carried out by the Bush/Cheney regime.



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 05:44 AM
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Originally posted by jerico65
I wonder if Obama thinks this won't come to bite him on the ass when he's leaving office?

Exactly. It'll be interesting if the next POTUS after Obama opens up HIS administration for the world to see. Oh .. talk about fun!


BTW - the title of this is completely wrong. No where did Obama say to bush - 'I can release your records. Don't like it? Sue!'

Edited to add - I mean the article title - not the ATS title.



[edit on 1/22/2009 by FlyersFan]



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by Dramey
god this thread started out ok but then turned into the same thread as all the rest here on ats lately, nothing but a bunch of childish ignorant arguments

jesus when will the children go away and leave ats to the adults who can debate and post intellectually


i dont even post here anymore because thats all it is, a bunch of kids arguing stupidly

this site used to be great for news and knowledge but now its all just hidden amongst fear mongering and petty bickering



well said and apparently well needed....I am sure we have all visited and even posted at some of the other "conspiracy" websites and forums - I have - and I am also sure, that like me, you have found ATS a place where you have a better chance of engaging with "adults who can debate and post intellectually" then most any other place online..............having a better chance lately however is fading.........lets help keep ATS a place where people can share their ideas and perhaps even more a place where some might learn that wiki anything is not usually a good "source!"

on topic now - a good first day for obama and his team.....he has folks talking about what he is doing in a positive light.......how's that for change???



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 06:21 AM
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I believe a lot of the resistance and stonewalling during watergate was pre-resignation of the president, this release and records uncovering efforts are happening after the previous president left office, all this is doing essentially is accelerating the inevitable, also anyone that really believes that all of the covering up done was legal along with the Alberto Gonzales yassah boss mentality and actions is wrong, much of what they did was counter to the constitution and made up as they went along, new rules for their moment, I really applaud president Obama and his administration for possibly taking the first steps to bring the old president to justice and shine light on their wrongdoings in the public light, never forget, the president works for us as well as all elected public officials and he is not above the law and most certainly not a king!!!!



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 06:22 AM
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All this really does is return the levels of secrecy to where they were before GW. If I remember right, it was widely speculated that the main reason GW made this order was to keep things done under Reagan hidden. This is the big fear of the Bush clan and the neocons associated with them. Reagan was fairly gone long before the end of his second term, and the neocons did whatever they wanted.

This why conservatives do not like this change at all. Considering what the neocons did with Clinton, and the games they have played under GW, what went around is now coming around, and about time.

This is why is has been a very smart move for Obama to bring a great many or the Clinton people back, he needs people who can hit the ground running. GW and the neocons were so abusive, they even turned off many in the Militaries top brass. I don't think Obama will be as foolish as JFK, who seemed to walk openly to his own death. Any "Red Dwarf" fans out there?



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 06:27 AM
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Woah he's been a busy boy! i can now see why people like him lets hope he can continue doing things like this for at least a year bear in mind his first 100 days are vital so perhaps this is why he is seen positively i hope it isn't. I'm proud to be an ally of America if he continues like this he can actually CHANGE things. but we gotta see about his foreign policy,construction work etc etc before we jump the gun and go all Obama crazy. I just wish he keeps to his plan,,but eventually the corruption of power will enter him and ruin the great leader he can be.

but for now my opinion of Obama just went way up



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 06:54 AM
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I wonder if all the right-wing websites would take back what they said. You know, the ones that insinuated he was the Anti-Christ? I admit, having his car named "the Beast" was not helping his cause... but that's taking it a little too far... or is it? Everything he's done seems to be "too good to be true," I just hope what we see is a "sheep in wolf's clothing" rather than a "wolf in sheep's."

What I found the scariest though, was the fact that Robert F. Kennedy prophetized that in 40 years, we'd see a black man "achieve the same position that my brother (former President John F Kennedy) had.”

[edit on 22-1-2009 by IlluminatiKarate]



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by ZindoDoone
They tried this with Nixon and what they got was a warning that anything they release without proper court orders would be considered treason. No former President has ever had this happen. If they could not do it for Slick Willy they can't for Bush. They are treading on real dangerous ice here.
Zindo


True. I wonder if Obama thinks this won't come to bite him on the ass when he's leaving office?


Nah, he will just do like other libs (the clintonites) and steal or destroy anything incriminating.

Maybe they can get sandy burgler do help. He has experience in stealing incriminating documents or destroying them.



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by jam321

The people will not tolerate Georges crimes restricting Obama's will to show what we always knew, that we were lied to by the Bush admin.


First, not all people voted for Obama.

Second, we shouldn't forget that Congress passed an humongous bailout against the people's will. If they ignored the people on that, I am sure they would ignore any calls not to impeach Obama as retaliation for going after Bush.

I will say it again. If it is found that Obama or any of his people went after Bush, there will all out political civil war between the Dems and Reps for many years to come. Obama will probably make some inquires but they will slowly but truly die during the process or will be prolonged to the point that no one even cares anymore.

If Obama really felt Bush had committed crimes, he should have joined with the few Congressmen who did try to impeach Bush. The fact that he didn't speaks volumes itself.


I don't see the Republican senators or house members going to the wall to protect Bush. In the new atmosphere in DC, I think "token resistance" is the best Bush could hope for. About 75% of GOP office holders have adopted a hands-off approach to Obama so far. Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are no longer speaking for the GOP establishment, and the Palin crowd, as fiesty as they are, can't do squat without huge financial backing. The back-woods "patriots" are going to learn that gun shows and talk radio don't beat massive funding, and the GOP of the Fifties is back.



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by jam321
If Obama goes after Bush, he is in for a war with the Republicans in Congress. They will scrutinized his every move and will try to impeach him for the smallest of things. Politics will be at an all time low. I got a feeling a lot of this is just wishful thinking.


As if all Republics are such big friends with Bush right?
Are these the true patriots I see people talking about? Going after transparency is 'being in for war'?



posted on Jan, 22 2009 @ 07:24 AM
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Obama Prosecute bush = CIVIL WAR





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