Originally posted by paxnatus

Ya see, I said it earlier How is counseling on abortion as a family-planning option not the same as the one who provides abortion?

How can you not see that those are two seperate things? I can SPEAK to a friend, even counsel them on her personal legal options. I can counsel on abortion and adoption, birth control and abstinence. If I speak to someone about abortion, as a legal option, I am not yanking the baby out of her womb, I'm merely letting her know that it's there, and it's legal. Entirely different.

Question for all you Do Gooder fundamental types,

How many non aborted babies have you supported? You know the ones that would have been sent back to their maker before they were even developed?

Or is it the same rhetoric 9 months later to the single mom unable to cope with a new baby she was coerced into keeping to get you closer to your God for your selfless act?

How dare you!
Start supporting the millions of unwanted and abused, tortured children that you coned unfit Mothers into keeping with promises of moral support. You cant diaper and feed or council with that.

Stop being so judgemental about a woman's right to choose. Stop being so quick to decide who lives and dies, yes dies because for every child you 'save' for your own heavenly redemption, you also take the karmic responsibility for what happens to that child, do you even care? How often in your pious prayers do you even think about the little lost and tortured souls and what became of them or if they even survived?

THI ISSUE IS ABOUT SUPPLYING THE PILL AND EDUCATION, but as usual here come the judgemental do gooders to the scene, ready to go for the juggler and jump on the abortion band wagon, put down your pitch forks!

Repeat after me...

THIS IS A GOOD THING, because what happens to even the littlest of my fellow earthlings, happens to me... You ARE your brothers keeper.

just wanted to add my 2 cents, i think all this funding for any type of "family planning" for foriegn contries should be canned... keep the money here in the states...

Originally posted by paxnatus
Again, I say, abortion is not nor should it ever be a family planning OPTION.

But forcing your own ideals onto others is no problem eh?

Originally posted by XTexan
just wanted to add my 2 cents, i think all this funding for any type of "family planning" for foriegn contries should be canned... keep the money here in the states...

Now that's a concept I can get behind!

*no one liner here*

Originally posted by XTexan
i think all this funding for any type of "family planning" for foriegn contries should be canned... keep the money here in the states...

No matter what side of the abortion issue a person is on, that is something that we can probably all come together on. Or at least most of us. Spend American money HERE AT HOME where we need it. Our infrastucture and health care systems need the money. Our education system needs the money.

For crying out loud, dont' send it overseas to foreigners who just can't keep their pants zipped. KEEP THE $$$$ HERE.

Originally posted by Navieko

Originally posted by paxnatus
Again, I say, abortion is not nor should it ever be a family planning OPTION.

But forcing your own ideals onto others is no problem eh?

This program is doing the exact same thing, forcing pro-choice ideal's into cultures that often have religious oposition to it.

I can completely understand those against this funding for reasons to do with saving the American economy -- but if what Asmeone2 says is correct, than I think it's a problem that definitely deserves some attention.

Thnaks guys, I just seriously dont see why we (USA) have to be all in these other countries business. We can't figure out our own family planning policies we sure as poo shouldn't be trying to tell others what to do.

Originally posted by Navieko
I can completely understand those against this funding for reasons to do with saving the American economy -- but if what Asmeone2 says is correct, than I think it's a problem that definitely deserves some attention.

My first preference would be to keep the money home, but if we must send it out, I think deciding how to spend it should be up to the discretion of those who are receiving it, not politicians who will stay comfy in Washington and have no idea what the recipiant's needs are.

I am trying to find better links, to show how this ruling was misused by certain religious groups.

Originally posted by antar
Question for all you Do Gooder fundamental types,

How many non aborted babies have you supported? You know the ones that would have been sent back to their maker before they were even developed?

Or is it the same rhetoric 9 months later to the single mom unable to cope with a new baby she was coerced into keeping to get you closer to your God for your selfless act?

How dare you!
Start supporting the millions of unwanted and abused, tortured children that you coned unfit Mothers into keeping with promises of moral support. You cant diaper and feed or council with that.

Stop being so judgemental about a woman's right to choose. Stop being so quick to decide who lives and dies, yes dies because for every child you 'save' for your own heavenly redemption, you also take the karmic responsibility for what happens to that child, do you even care? How often in your pious prayers do you even think about the little lost and tortured souls and what became of them or if they even survived?

THI ISSUE IS ABOUT SUPPLYING THE PILL AND EDUCATION, but as usual here come the judgemental do gooders to the scene, ready to go for the juggler and jump on the abortion band wagon, put down your pitch forks!

Repeat after me...

THIS IS A GOOD THING, because what happens to even the littlest of my fellow earthlings, happens to me... You ARE your brothers keeper.

First take a deep breath and calm down. Go back when you are able and read the headline. This thread is not about family planning or adoption, it is
about abortion having one and or receiving counseling about abortion AS A FAMILY PLANNING OPTION.

Im for abortion...BUT the time has to be reduced imo,too much evidence is coming forward that the limit is too high.Then again what does that mean? does the mother go for the black market style abortion and risk her life? In a perfect world the time would be cut and if a woman didnt meet that ie too late they should have support from the government until she gives birth and during that time a suitable family would be found for the child...in a perfect world atleast.As for sex education i think it should go much deeper at a younger age,whether you like it or not our culture has changed and you need to equip children with all the information you can,they are not stupid it wont mentally scar them,hopefully it will make sure none of the above will happen on such a large scale in the future.

[edit on 21-1-2009 by Solomons]