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Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Really people, how on earth can you believe a man that claims he is the only one that can correctly translate ancient Sumerian tablets, with no formal education in ancient history. If his translastions were correct, then that mean all the other ligitimate, ancient biblical scholars in the world are incorrect, or misread the same tablets. Now in my opinion, thats apretty enormous call.
So Sitchins claim to fame, is apparently that "gods" from another planet, Nibiru, came to Earth 450,000 years ago, and created humans through the gentic engineering of female apes. He also claims the planet Nibiru, sits outside Pluto and orbits the sun every 3600 years. Because Nibiru sits so far out from the sun, its only source of heat comes from within, by the decay of radioactive materials. He also claims that human descendants of these "gods" killed themselves off 4000 years ago, with nuclear weapons, despite the fact that there is no evidence to sunstantiate this outrageous theory.
Sitchin alone can look at a Sumerian tablet and see that it depicts a man being subjected to radiation. He alone knows how to correctly translate ancient terms allowing him to discover such things as that the ancients made rockets (ibid., p. 46).* Yet, he doesn't seem to know that the seasons are caused by the earth's tilt, not by its distance from the sun.
Thats pretty good for someone who is apparently an educated man.
According to a real sumerian ancient text scholar,
"[Sitchin] demonstrates a consistent lack of appreciation of even some of the most basic fundamentals of Sumerian and Akkadian grammar, even to the extent of regularly failing to distinguish between the two entirely different languages, and mixing words from each in interpreting the syllables of longer compound words." This mixing of languages allows Sitchin to make amazing "discoveries."
Due to his arrogance, and claims of being the only one able to translate the tablets, he is shunned by other ancient scholars and stands alone with his belief about Nibiru (apart from the conspiracy theory community, and his followers)
So despite all this information discrediting Sitchin, why do people still believe in it?
And whats this about Nibiru only being visible from the Southern pole. Anyone, that knows basic astronomy knows that if something is visible at the southern most point of the globe, then it is visible from the entire southern hemisphere. Considering that none of the observatories and private astronomers have found anything to idicate an enormous planet (or star in some cases) is hurtling towards us, then still why is this considered a plausible theory? Also, some Nibiru'ers claim that it is hiding behind the sun, which is why we cant see it, again, this is impossible.
Another point to consider is the failed appearance of it in 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, and late 2008. If a prophecy fails to come true on more than one occasion, why continue to believe it?
So I dont understand why people are getting all worked up about it, there's no evidence, people are taking the word of an economist (Sitchin was an economist of all things), and worse of all negelecting all the evidence that points towards the Nibiru theory being unplausible.
Thoughts on this?
Just to add, the first link is from a real ancient text scholar, he has tax returns to prove it
admin edit: removed "not nice name" from title. No reason to sling names regardless of one's opinion of the person.
[edit on 1-21-2009 by Springer]
Originally posted by Essan
I still think the best bit is where the aliens spend hundreds of thousands of years digging for gold with stone tool and antler picks, then decide to genetically enhance the local apes - and get them to do the job for them using the selfsame tools.....
I mean: advanced genetics but can't even invent metal tools?
And as for having to build a pyramid as a signpost because they don;t know how to read maps or use a compass ....
Edit: oh, and the bit where the aliens live 3,600 years longer than humans because although they look like humans and are biologically the same as humans, they evolved on a planet that takes 3,600 years to orbit the sun .....
Still, if anyone want to live to be 300 just move to Mars
[edit on 21-1-2009 by Essan]
Originally posted by PoisonousPoison
how on earth can you believe a man that claims he is the only one that can correctly translate ancient Sumerian tablets, with no formal education in ancient history.
The red light flag in most people's minds should go up when something like that is taken into context about the person who's giving out information on the "Ancients." I suppose fame is just as high on the priori of people as greed [money itself] so he wanted to cash in on this idea, and being that 2012 was a ways away it would be perfect. Not only that, he could change the date on a Whim a few times when it didn't show up due to unforeseeable circumstances or something within' the universe .
Originally posted by Essan
Originally posted by WatchNLearn
WOW, which book(s) was all that in? Gee, I haven't managed to read any of those claims yet even though I have read about 8 of his books!
Please tell me the Title and page numbers would also be great.
You mean I've got to back and read through them all again to find the relevant references - how cruel are you?
Obviously none of it is specifically stated - but he does offer evidence of ancient mining in Africa carried out using stone tools as antlers and proof that his aliens operated mines there; he often states that the Giza pyramids were built for aircraft navigational purposes; and the longevity of his aliens because they live on a planet with a long orbit is also implicit more than once.
Oh, and I forgot the bit about the Antarctic ice sheet falling into the sea and causing a flood that buried all the aliens cities under hundreds of feet of silt ...... you know, the ice sheet from which we've extracted 900,000 years worth of ice cores ......
[edit on 21-1-2009 by Essan]
Originally posted by jaman
reply to post by MacroVisio
g the gold was used on their planet as i recall to be put into the atmosphere to shield the planet from the suns harmful rays and to impress ladies.na jus kidden about the ladies thing but its ironic we now use it to tint windows on spaceshuttles for same reason
Originally posted by PhyberDragon
So the fact that he IS one of the few people left on Earth who can read and translate these dead languages makes him a loon, huh.
Originally posted by enkira
reply to post by OzWeatherman
so sitchins books are just tall tales.no backing from the academes, no ph d certs and all that trappings.
Originally posted by SaviorComplex on page 7:
"What you are telling us is that you do not believe you should answer questions regarding the claims you have made. Thus far, you have avoided answering my questions ..."
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
What I find amazing is that people accepting other interpretations of these events as long as it is associated with a religion. Sitchin, one day will be recognised as one of our greatest scholars!
Originally posted by Annee on page 7:
Originally posted by enir nabu
again i say, the stuff Sitchin translates the Sumerian tablets to say make more sense to me as to where we come from, than the fables that the bible and all of those other religious books say.
when you couple a lot of what the Sumerians apparently depicted and wrote with a lot of other writings from people like David Icke, William Cooper, James Redfield, Daniken, etc.,...things that take place today all seem to make more sense. symbolism, esoteric knowledge, technology we have, missing link, etc.,
just have to use your 3rd eye sometimes.
"Can I just steal this and make it my own?
Exactly! Some people just have a "knowing" a 3rd eye connection - that sees beyond black and white.
Can I explain it? NO - but having had "experiences" myself - I know they are also not black and white - and must be interpreted. That is why I say "I believe ME and my own insight"...."