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Originally posted by CoolBlackHole
Originally posted by Annee on page 7:
Originally posted by enir nabu
again i say, the stuff Sitchin translates the Sumerian tablets to say make more sense to me as to where we come from, than the fables that the bible and all of those other religious books say.
when you couple a lot of what the Sumerians apparently depicted and wrote with a lot of other writings from people like David Icke, William Cooper, James Redfield, Daniken, etc.,...things that take place today all seem to make more sense. symbolism, esoteric knowledge, technology we have, missing link, etc.,
just have to use your 3rd eye sometimes.
"Can I just steal this and make it my own?
Exactly! Some people just have a "knowing" a 3rd eye connection - that sees beyond black and white.
Can I explain it? NO - but having had "experiences" myself - I know they are also not black and white - and must be interpreted. That is why I say "I believe ME and my own insight"...."
It’s amazing how one can start connecting more and more dots when reading certain authors. And let me again clarify that this refers to the main points of these authors, not to each and every tiny detail they wrote. Every scholar/author makes some small mistakes. And of course “sceptics” can then stick at some picked out trifles and allege an author was “wrong”. But that’s inept. The question is, are the main insights of authors correct or not. And indeed that's what they really seem to be in a high degree with Sitchin. Let’s for instance take the Nibiru issue. As to that Sitchin’s important testimonies are not Nibiru’s exact dates, coordinates, or like, but the principal and shocking message, that our genes were destructively manipulated and influenced by another race.
Sasha Lessin, Ph. D. - based on Study of Zecharia Sitchin's ...
[edit on 23-1-2009 by CoolBlackHole]
Originally posted by cogburn
reply to post by Drea2up
I couldn't agree more. Sitchin survived for a long time because of the obscurity of both his publications (not being all that mainstream) and the rarity of documented experts on the matter. I'm one of those that took it as plausible for a very long time.
After the publication of Sitchin's first works, it took nearly 30 years for academia to produce a Sumerian language scholar that has a collection of tin-foil hats. Once that happened, the floor dropped out on Sitchin's research. You don't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of times this has happened in the field of academic research. It's just how it goes when your research is sloppy.
All Nibiru-mania traces its roots to Sitchin. This also encompasses any 2012 predictions that include the arrival of Planet X/Nibiru/Orcus or whatever else you want to call it.
If I had my way, any such Nibiru discussions that trace their roots back to Sitchin's works should have a big fat [HOAX] slapped on the topic title.
[edit on 1-2-2009 by cogburn]
Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Really people, how on earth can you believe a man that claims he is the only one that can correctly translate ancient Sumerian tablets, with no formal education in ancient history. If his translastions were correct, then that mean all the other ligitimate, ancient biblical scholars in the world are incorrect, or misread the same tablets. Now in my opinion, thats apretty enormous call.
So Sitchins claim to fame, is apparently that "gods" from another planet, Nibiru, came to Earth 450,000 years ago, and created humans through the gentic engineering of female apes. He also claims the planet Nibiru, sits outside Pluto and orbits the sun every 3600 years. Because Nibiru sits so far out from the sun, its only source of heat comes from within, by the decay of radioactive materials. He also claims that human descendants of these "gods" killed themselves off 4000 years ago, with nuclear weapons, despite the fact that there is no evidence to sunstantiate this outrageous theory.
Sitchin alone can look at a Sumerian tablet and see that it depicts a man being subjected to radiation. He alone knows how to correctly translate ancient terms allowing him to discover such things as that the ancients made rockets (ibid., p. 46).* Yet, he doesn't seem to know that the seasons are caused by the earth's tilt, not by its distance from the sun.
Thats pretty good for someone who is apparently an educated man.
According to a real sumerian ancient text scholar,
"[Sitchin] demonstrates a consistent lack of appreciation of even some of the most basic fundamentals of Sumerian and Akkadian grammar, even to the extent of regularly failing to distinguish between the two entirely different languages, and mixing words from each in interpreting the syllables of longer compound words." This mixing of languages allows Sitchin to make amazing "discoveries."
Due to his arrogance, and claims of being the only one able to translate the tablets, he is shunned by other ancient scholars and stands alone with his belief about Nibiru (apart from the conspiracy theory community, and his followers)
So despite all this information discrediting Sitchin, why do people still believe in it?
And whats this about Nibiru only being visible from the Southern pole. Anyone, that knows basic astronomy knows that if something is visible at the southern most point of the globe, then it is visible from the entire southern hemisphere. Considering that none of the observatories and private astronomers have found anything to idicate an enormous planet (or star in some cases) is hurtling towards us, then still why is this considered a plausible theory? Also, some Nibiru'ers claim that it is hiding behind the sun, which is why we cant see it, again, this is impossible.
Another point to consider is the failed appearance of it in 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, and late 2008. If a prophecy fails to come true on more than one occasion, why continue to believe it?
So I dont understand why people are getting all worked up about it, there's no evidence, people are taking the word of an economist (Sitchin was an economist of all things), and worse of all negelecting all the evidence that points towards the Nibiru theory being unplausible.
Thoughts on this?
Just to add, the first link is from a real ancient text scholar, he has tax returns to prove it
admin edit: removed "not nice name" from title. No reason to sling names regardless of one's opinion of the person.
[edit on 1-21-2009 by Springer]