reply to post by Fiverz
On the flip side I wonder how many people in favour of this do anything as selfless as volunteer work, or spend quality time with their kids (sorry TV
time doesn't count), or even have kids. I dare you to tell me that these two forms of "volunteering" are the same thing, you'd just prove you have
no experience of both types. One is actually volunteering and the other is not. I do have experience of both, if you want to know the difference just
Don't bring up the 1930s as an example for this because what is being proposed now did not happen then. Would people generally perform as well and
help each other out today? No people have changed and so have our freedoms since then (like being able to discipline your child).
You yourself are failing to look at the bigger picture, by favouring a lazy quick fix easy way out "solution" that could very easily turn into
something very ugly. You don't see yourself as being shortsighted but you are, in this case.
Originally posted by alyosha1981
Yes actually it is, the "end of story" part implies that nothing more can be done thus defeat. People are "free" to raise their children the fact
that some laws protect children's right should not be misconstrued as loss of freedom.
Sure disregard what I'm saying and counter me using one idiom I used several posts ago, out of context too might I add! That end of story part was
referring to parents' right to raise their children however they see fit, and only that. NOT that nothing more can be done to improve society and so
"People are allowed to raise their children however they wish. End of story." From there, there are several things to do, but that parental right is
a must. People need to take responsibility for their own children, not hand that responsibility over. People have been giving away responsibility bit
by bit over the past few decades and is what has caused this problem. This is the fuel for the fire, and you would only be tossing more on.
reply to post by In nothing we trust
I find it positively delightful that you keep calling it volunteering. Let me shed some light for you and your witless headlines:
"I say we volunteer everyone to go fight in Iraq."
Are you thinking that's called a conscription/draft? ...Bingo! I think it's about time for a vocabulary lesson.
--- What is a draft?
- To select from a group for some usually compulsory service: drafted into the army.
--- What is volunteering?
- To perform or offer to perform a service of one's own free will.
Do any of you see the difference yet or do these concepts still go over your head? If anyone doesn't know what free will means I urge them to look it
up right now. -_-