America once again shows lack of class, page 9
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reply posted on 21-1-2009 @ 07:55 AM by Little Insanity
reply to post by Bakane



You are right that all the blame shouldn't be carried by the Bush. We need to see that the american people should share in his failure. We've put these people in places of power with a blank check. When the poo hits the fan we do nothing. Are leaders not supposed to lead by example? Whenever I talk to people about this I ask them if they think washington politics is corrupt. A majority say yes. What does that say about us, the average person. If our leaders are not the reflection of their followers then are we a reflection of them? We put them in. We kept them in.

Just food for thought.


reply posted on 21-1-2009 @ 07:56 AM by azzllin
To be ashamed because these evil good for nothings got boo's from the crowd is every persons right.

But stop for a second and have a thought, not for the many many people who have died because of these peoples ideals and policies, but for yourselves, you could easily be hiding in your basement about now, waiting for the dust to settle before you can leave on a hunt for food and water, because this man was bordering on world destruction because of his crap.

Also does it really matter who was pulling his strings? if he wanted so much to care for the American people, their rights, and their lively hood, then his heart had it been pure in his work, would have died before allowing others to manipulate the world as he tried to do, I didnt see him with signs of torture that made him do what he did, did anyone else?

So accept the booing as the lesser of many much worse evils that could have come from the last 8 years, thank your blessings, to use bush's own words, if your not with us your against us, that little statement killed a hell of a lot of people, do you think their families became upset? me either, with a little hindsight, a giant 20 foot solid bronze boot, on a wire, primed to hit him in the head on stage would have been to good for the bastard if you ask me, but you didn't so that's alright then.

Don't feel ashamed for America for booing, applaud it, because at last America is waking up to the corruption these people propagated, sadly I fear the bush legacy hasn't finished yet, now America will discover what has been hidden from it by the bush admin, just how bad is it? time will tell.

I see some people just wont let the Obama bashing drop, *like the Obama birth certificate* old news done and gone, get over it, the man is your president now, let him at least have a go before you stick your foot too far down your own throat, now that would be embarrassing huh?


reply posted on 21-1-2009 @ 08:04 AM by questioningall
Let's go back a little and hear the boo's at Bush's inauguration in 2005:



also lets see this other dandy of boo's



What is a shame is this thread, you are putting down people for voicing their disapproval of a man that has taken down the U.S.

People are showing their frustration and disgust at a man who for 8 years kept us all down! That is what you call a peaceful show of disapproval, and that is what the U.S. is about, being able to voice how you feel.

Go ahead call me low class - but my anger and frustration has been bottled up and now the happiness at the horrible era as now passed! I will show my anger and I will fight for a trial of that man and his cronies who have taken the U.S. down an immoral low road.

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reply posted on 21-1-2009 @ 08:05 AM by detachedindividual
reply to post by jsobecky



I couldn't disagree with you more, as I often find in reading your posts.

I swear you must have been living in a cave for the last 8 years!


These two men caused an international breakdown in respect for America. They were warmongering, profiteering, corrupt creatures lining their own pockets while the American people were silenced and lied to repeatedly.

Just looking at the attempted protests in recent months in America shows how they would have treated any dissenting voices, had any group tried to organize.

They were running your nation similarly to a dictatorship, only without the honesty to call it that.

The people spoke, after years of not being allowed to or being too scared to they voiced their opinion. The only ones to blame for that reaction are Bush and Cheney.
If they had ran America properly, with decency and respect for the people, they would have been cheered. The fact that they weren't says a lot about the damage they did to America.

If I were you, I wouldn't feel ashamed of the Americans who booed, I'd feel ashamed that America allowed leaders who garnered that reaction to stay in power for so long.

They deserved that response for doing the damage they've done. If they didn't want to be booed, they shouldn't have invaded Iraq based on lies, Invaded Afghanistan based on lies, withdrew many rights from American people, responded to disasters inadequately, whitewashed the 9/11 investigation, destroyed international respect for their nation... I could go on.

If Obama gains that reaction when he leaves office, he's done just as badly and should be shown to have done so.

After 8 years of seeing no dissent against your leaders for the actions they carried out in your name, I was really proud to see people sticking up for themselves and having a voice.

The only thing I'm disappointed about is that the American people didn't have the balls to shout this protest in similar numbers when it really mattered.


reply posted on 21-1-2009 @ 08:13 AM by Benevolent Heretic
It was a very uncomfortable and embarrassing moment and I highly disapproved of the disrespect shown the office and tradition of a peaceful passing of the torch.

Originally posted by jsobecky
What a total lack of class. With the world watching, Americans had to act like a bunch of immature adolescents.


I agree. Some Americans did. They are a small group and while I disagree with the choice to express themselves just then in that way, it was their right as Americans to do so.

But I felt sorry for Bush. I saw that it "stung" him. His best days have been recently, as he has handled this transition with more grace than he managed to muster during the previous 8 years. Unfortunately, it's not enough to allay the hatred and anger that people feel for him. I understand that.


An historic day, ruined by idiots.


Why you would let one instant "ruin the day" for you is beyond me. It was a bad moment and it passed. The day was not ruined for the vast majority of the country.

Originally posted by jsobecky
I decided to change my mind and give Obama a chance to prove himself.


I don't believe that for a moment. Not an instant. This thread is a transparent attempt to shame Obama supporters once again. Nothing more. You can't convince me that you suddenly let go of the animosity that you've been showing for the past couple of years because of one morning of listening to pundits, and now the evil Obama supporters who booed have changed your mind again. Please. You insult us.

I would have had more respect if you had come right out and attacked Obama supporters like you usually do instead of making up this scenario that you saw the light and decided to give Obama a chance. The assertion is completely hollow.


reply posted on 21-1-2009 @ 08:18 AM by detachedindividual
Originally posted by Ridhya
It was the same speech as George Bush's... he didnt mention any change he repeated the same song Bush had for the last 8 years. But because it was Obama saying the words everyone ate it up! Im glad Jon Stewart caught that, it had ridiculous parallels.

Oh, and at John McCains speech he wished Obama good luck and the whole audience booed! It looks more like the democrats just got revenge to me..?


I'm sorry but you do know you are completely wrong don't you?

What Obama speech did you watch? Because I watched the one where he stated that the people need to take action to change their nation. I watched the one where Obama stated that military might is not a substitute for discussion. I watched the one where he promised equality, social responsibility and a reform of government.

I have NEVER seen or heard Bush mention any of these things.

In the last 8 years I have seen Bush ranting on about nothing but war, destruction, blame, terrorism, fear...
And it was all uninspired, repetitive and carefully designed to make Americans easily controlled.

Bush worked hard to detach people from knowing their government beyond what was deliberately controlled. He spent the last 8 years hiding the facts and glossing over them with talk about terrorists and what you should be scared of, what they were protecting you from.

He used terrorism as a tool to do whatever he liked in the interests of himself, his friends and family and business investments.

While Obama's speech was more pessimistic and honest than I had expected on the day of his taking office, I was glad to see that he was passionate, inspiring, hopeful and HONEST. All of the things that Bush most certainly was not.


reply posted on 21-1-2009 @ 08:30 AM by PammyK
reply to post by jsobecky

I must be hard of hearing! I watched it and did not hear any booing.





reply posted on 21-1-2009 @ 08:36 AM by questioningall
I found another video of the boos from yesterday - it is from the perspective of being in the crowd - and they start singing "goodbye"!

I love it!! It puts a HUGE smile on my face. it will definitely be a favorite for me under youtube!



Oh yet another video from out in the crowd of the boos!

Jeez I might just start a boo video thread for Bush!




Oh, but lets not leave Cheney out! Here is one just for him! Didn't want him to feel neglected from this thread.




reply posted on 21-1-2009 @ 08:44 AM by hotbakedtater
reply to post by sos37


Actually I said no such thing. I never commented on how I feel about the congress and senate because that is off topic. I may be shallow in your opinion, but I am deep enough to know a bad evil leader when I see one.


reply posted on 21-1-2009 @ 08:50 AM by hotbakedtater
reply to post by fooffstarr


Here is what I am responding to:

"Hate Bush all you like, but at least have some respect for the position he filled."

I do respect the position he filled, HE is the one who in my opinion, did not respect the position he filled.


reply posted on 21-1-2009 @ 08:56 AM by hotbakedtater
reply to post by seagull



But here is what I think a lot of people do not understand about this situation. Bush was there in front of the crowd to boo at, congress etc was not paraded out for a chance to boo at. So why do some posters who feel it was bad taste/low class to boo the outgoing president keep raising the straw man of congress and its blame/share? It really does not have any bearing on why I booed my TV and was so HAPPY to see this man go. None. I judge Bush on his actions, and I conclude he is a bad man.


reply posted on 21-1-2009 @ 08:56 AM by questioningall
reply to post by hotbakedtater




I have no respect, admiration only contempt for that man. My anger is immense for what he and his administration did!

Respect?

being President by voter fraud in both elections?

He did not get that position except by fraud, which is what his Presidency was....nothing but one big fraud on the American people and world - including the millions who have died due to his FRAUD!

NO respect here - or ever - only complete disdain and disgust and absolute contempt!






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