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America once again shows lack of class

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posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 11:43 AM
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reply to post by Gears Of War
 


And you should be imprisoned for saying that about a president...Idiot!




posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by questioningall
 



That piece of dirt - killed all those people in the World Trade Center - he then took our rights away - he listened to our phone calls, read our emails - tortured people, had millions killed with his lies!


And so you are told...and therefore believe all the above to be true. Yet, in reality you have not one shred of personal proof that any of this transpired.


There is more evidence that it was an inside govt. job than there is that Bin Laden did it. I have spent hours looking into 911 and I am totally conveniced that Bush was behind it.

Oh, so it was ok to torture people?
it was ok to listen to our phone calls without a judges approval?

All things he lied about first, than finally admitted.

So it was ok for a President to lie to us? Because that is PROVEN! Including taking us to war - and firing anyone who did not make the intelligence the way he and Cheney wanted to see it!

Please....too bad for all of you...who are still blind and insulted by the boos!

I am hoping for more than boos for him - at some time in the future!

I can only hope for a trial and end result as Saddam Hussein!

I am still celebrating and will continue to do so!



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 11:49 AM
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Sorry OP but too show approval of Any kinda whether ceremonial or not too a pair that single handedly set our Nation back possibly 20-50 years in world relations,economics and not too mention the WMD/Iraq BS they Fed us.
Nope. They deserve Nothing.
In fact The Bush/Cheney Fat Cat consortium Should have too pay the American People back many $$$$$$ for all that they Cost the US.
Bush will Certainly go down as an absolute Failure as history goes on bar None.
On a side Note I watched a PBS documentary showing the Inner WhiteHouse workings/going's on' this last year under King Bush and My God do they all live like and also look like they are 1700's European Ruling Class.
Such lavish gall was disturbing IMO especially while so many in the USA are losing everything they own daily.



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Jester
I have my reasons but I will not support Obama. I do believe that obama will be unable to protect americans like bush did and will cause terrorist to sucessfully attack america. Wonder what people will say then.


I sure hope you are wrong but I'll have to agree with you.
To answer your question I can tell what they'll say.

They'll say Bush stirred the hornet's nest.



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Its interesting. Conspiracy-Theory-Sites usually go against the majority. In hating Bush they go with the majority.



Agreed. A very odd an unexpected thing to see and not expected. The pop cultural conformity is disconcerting.



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by sos37
 



Yes congress has the power. But who convinced Congress to go to war. Who convinced Congress that the bailout is needed?

Bush at the very least has been convincing. While Congress actually voted, it was Bush who was setting the agenda, and filling them with false information to get what he wanted.

And Congresse's approval ratings are low for listening to him.


Oh no you don't! I'm not going to let you distort the facts just so you can justify your hatred for Bush. Congress didn't sit back and listen to only Bush when it came to those things. When it came to the war, Congress listened to MANY people and examined a lot of evidence before they made a decision. They heard from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, they saw the VERY SAME intelligence reports that Bush read, and were privvy to the same historical reports of Saddam using chemical weapons against the Kurds, including one attack that killed over 5,000 people. Even Colin Powell back in 2002 called for "regime change" in Iraq!

Now if you're saying that Congress, who has the very same intelligence reports in front of them, cannot make a decision for themselves with the same info Bush has on hand, then why the hell do you guys keep re-electing the same people to those seats? Isn't that the best evidence of incompetence at work? Or are you simply turning yet another blind eye to the obvious???

As for the bailout, it wasn't only Bush pushing for the bailout, Sir! Obama was pushing for it right behind him! But you also had Warren Buffet warning Congress to pass a bailout or face a meltdown:


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Billionaire Warren Buffett told congressional negotiators that if they can't agree on a proposed financial bailout, the nation will face "its biggest financial meltdown in American history," two sources familiar with the talks said.

www.cnn.com...

You also had Fed. Reserve Board Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson who pushed Congress to pass a bailout.

Sorry, but the blame CANNOT be put solely on Bush. The only way you can possibly justify doing so is if you think irrationally!

[edit on 21-1-2009 by sos37]



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 11:54 AM
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Americans have simply elected a socialist parasite. Hes a classic progressive liberal. He said it all in his speech.

Transforming "education", creating jobs, government regulation of the free market, bla bla bla. This is nothing but the tried blatherings of liberal Marxist professors that were spewing 30 years ago.

Nothing new here but the latest wave of the bull...t.

Some of you younger posters really need to understand that you have no perspective that 30 years can provide. You have been brainwashed into thinking your on to something new, catching a new wave. This has all been played out for years, nothing new.

The only thing new is the "New Age" that Obama mentioned twice and made no effort to define. In this regard he is a classic politician. Beware of any politician that talks these fancy phrases without definition. To you the listener it means "The music was whatever was the song what it was". He doesn't have to be clear.

"The question we ask today is not if our government is to big or to small but does it work".

"Whether it helps families find job at a decent wage.."

This blow is so old it goes back to the 60's. Its about running up the debt per international bankers by way of social programs.



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Jester
I have my reasons but I will not support Obama. I do believe that obama will be unable to protect americans like bush did and will cause terrorist to sucessfully attack america. Wonder what people will say then.


Bush didn't protect Americans. He killed them.
At best he allowed 9/11 to happen unknowingly. Which I doubt.

"Bin Laden Determined To Strike in the U.S." The PDB said.
And Bush looked at the person who handed him the brief and said, "fine, you've covered your ass."
And the worst attack on American soil in history happened.
And anthrax went through the U.S. Postal System, killing even more innocents.

Yes... he kept America safe.
Probably an easy task considering he and his puppet masters were the attackers to begin with.



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 11:54 AM
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OP you are a prime example of 1 of many americans who are still sound asleep beside the media box in their comfort bubble. You are ashamed of americans because they booed Bush and Cheney? They are the biggest terrorists around!

You know how much money they pocketed from the war in Iraq?
You know how much the world hates america because of our ex-"so called leaders" actions abroad? We have gained back some respect in the world by voting in Obama.

I am ashamed that Bush and Cheney are not being punished by Americans for their war criminal actions. Profiting from killing Americans at home on 9/11 to lead to war in iraq to get the big pot of oil. In fact Bush made so much money that he is the first ex-pres to be denied secret service after 10 yrs.. instead he will have to pay for it. Because he has robbed americans of the morales and $$$.

I am ashamed that Americans only booed Bush and Cheney...



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Jester

Originally posted by Nola213
yes you terrible Americans....

Be more European, and piss and moan and kill eachother and burn down stadiums over frigging soccer games!

Now THAT'S Class!

So they boo'd the guy a little, boo-frigging hoo


so you want us to be more like you europeans and be spinless when it comes to standing up to russia?


What?

No I am american, am If I was there, I woulda boo'd Bush as well. But the title to the thread is a bit of a shot to me personjally.

How's this America shows no class....again? Since when? I think Americans show plenty of class in thier lives in general. I was just bringing up sports as one area where americans are probably the most classy in all the countries of the world. we don't kill opposing fans, we shake thier hands.

Opoosing teams after playoff games, losers and winners join hands in prayers circles. They don't burn down a stadium ect,ect.

But if anything America has been looked upon as a warmongering country, and THAT is because of Bush and co. So that's why I believe he was boo'd.

Either was it's not a big deal.

But whats with the "again"? in the title,what other class-less terrible act have us americans done. Maybe an american was caught whistling at a pretty girl at a beach????

OH NO, Make a Thread, quick!!!!

This is silly, is the point of my post. A few thousand people booing George Bush makes america show no class again?? yea, uhhhh, ok.



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 11:57 AM
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OP you are a prime example of 1 of many americans who are still sound asleep beside the media box in their comfort bubble. You are ashamed of americans because they booed Bush and Cheney? They are the biggest terrorists around!

You know how much money they pocketed from the war in Iraq?
You know how much the world hates america because of our ex-"so called leaders" actions abroad? We have gained back some respect in the world by voting in Obama.

I am ashamed that Bush and Cheney are not being punished by Americans for their war criminal actions. Profiting from killing Americans at home on 9/11 to lead to war in iraq to get the big pot of oil. In fact Bush made so much money that he is the first ex-pres to be denied secret service after 10 yrs.. instead he will have to pay for it. Because he has robbed americans of the morales and $$$.

I am ashamed that Americans only booed Bush and Cheney...



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 11:57 AM
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oh yes and obama will fly in with a cap and beat up the NWO & Lizard Men of 2012 & Satan hahaha.....



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Angus123
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The rest of the world saw Americans boo an unapologetic criminal.
They needed to see that, lest they think the entire country is insane.
And BTW... remember during the '04 campaign when Bush saw protesters as he went by in his campaign bus?
Well he flipped them off. Yeah. That's class.


Got a link to a news story or a video for this? I don't recall hearing about it.



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
NOw also keep in mind, out of two million people who were in DC yesterday:

There were no arrests.

Thirty children got lost and were promptly reunited with their families.

There were only 250 incidents reported to the health care facilities. Most of them hypothermia and dehydration.

Hardly a mosh pit.


Now tell me where else you can have two million people gather with no arrests, no crushes, no real injuries, nothing.

I think that speaks volumes about America's behavior yesterday.


You should start a thread about how wonderful the people were yesterday!

I did not know about how peaceful it was yesterday, until you posted this!

It shows how the people were there for a celebration of new - and how classy they all acted!

The people who keep bashing those there and those of us saying - YES to the boos, are ones who will forever keep their eyes closed to what Bush really was.... yet - by there being no problems at what was possibly the largest gathering of people in the history of the United States - won't acknowledge that fact.

The only point I would have thought would have actually been low class...would have been if, when Obama turned to Bush to "Thank him for his honorable service to the country" during his speech. Then it would not have been appropriate to boo.....but at that moment there was only ....silence. Which was Perfect! SILENCE!



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 12:01 PM
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And we have nothing to worry about now that obama will deliver us from evil correct? We have a new prez now and its not bush so enough with the bush crap already.



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 12:02 PM
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I'll tell ya what i think is classless-spending millions on a party for a new president when this country is "hurting". I could care less about the booing.

[edit on 21-1-2009 by antonia]

[edit on 21-1-2009 by antonia]



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 12:03 PM
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It was in poor taste for what was done. It shows a lack of class in the individuals who took part in it. As I read some of these post, with the exception of a few, I think there is a lack of understanding how things in government get done in this country.

The president needs the vote and support of Congress to get things done. If you choose to believe the spineless answers you hear from your representatives in government who voted in favor of the Bush policies then so be it. I on the other hand hold the President, the House and the Senate accountable for the breakdown of the system of check and balances.



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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I will not question your right to celebrate.

9/11 inside job. What can I say 50/50 shot. I am not entitled to the secret info we have yet to see, hear, or read.

was ok to torture people? - Probably not. Once again, I am not entitled to see the reason they felt it was necessary to torture them in the first place. Now as far as what the guards did, those are covered under the UCMJ. If those guards felt an unlawful command was given they had every right to disobey those orders.

ok to listen to our phone calls without a judges approval? - This one did irk me until Obama and Company gave them immunity. I figure if Obama felt the need to vote yes then there had to have been a good justification for it. Once again, I have no accesss to intel to see whether this event actually prevented a terrorist attack.

ok for a President to lie to us?-- I reckon you are talking about the WMD's. I wonder why so many Democrats like Al Gore and Pelosi, and Clinton had the same info as Bush but nobody ever claimed that they lied.


who are still blind and insulted by the boos


I can see and I see it for what it is. A Few Obama supporters who were cheering for their guy and booing the exiting party. If you stick around you can voice your opinion in 2012 or 2016 when it is Obama's turn to get booed. Just a part of the game.

My friend, You may now continue to celebrate and boo away as you please. I take no offense and expect it as part of the political process.



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
Perhaps all conservatives should show a little class and do what they call on all liberals to do and support the President even though he is of a different party.

Or will we have a new class of posters, the "OBAMA HATERS"

I think they already exist as evidenced by this thread.

class indeed......

hypocrisy much....

[edit on 21-1-2009 by whaaa]


The same class you showed President Bush?


Get lost pal.



posted on Jan, 21 2009 @ 12:08 PM
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I knid of agree with you here jsobecky.

Regardless of what he has done, the world was watching, including myself - I've been one of Bush's biggest critics, but I was a little embarressed at the message that booing sent out.

IMO a SLOW handclap would have been a lot more dignified and would have still shown what people at the ceremony thought of him.

On a slightly different note, a lot of friends have been praising Obama even before he took office.

My response has been "let's wait and see" - he talks the talk, let's see if he walks the walk and can truly make the US a better place for ALL, as well as improving the battered image in the international community.



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