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posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 09:50 AM
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Right now the IDF attacking Hamas is all you hear. Before it was America attacking Iraq. But where those two groups kill a few hundred, or thousand, people, what about the people of the region? They claim "peace" but are more violent then the Jews and Americans combined. The Sunni, Shiite, and Kurds are mortal enemies. It makes the Catholic and Protestant tiffs seem like childsplay.

More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined.


Islamic terrorists murder more people everyday than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years.

More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.


www.thereligionofpeace.com...




posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 10:11 AM
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Oh. and here I was expecting talk about how most of their cultures treat their wives.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 10:14 AM
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Oh they have a great pic of a woman being beaten, and a child being chained so it would obey. Look through, they have all kinds of stuff.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 10:50 AM
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I was always under the impression that it was the Americans who killed their own on 9/11 and framed it on Muslims.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 10:52 AM
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Muslims never carried out september 11th. Thats just what they want you to think. Congrats, you've been duped like most of the world.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 10:56 AM
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I once thought that to, but then realized these idiots couldn't carry a bucket of water let alone an attack like that and keep it secret. Seriously, I was a supporter of the idea that it was the Bush Admin. But I realized that they just sucked. That when given the information in a memo that detailed every thing they needed too know to stop it... they went on vacation. Look at how they messed every thing up. It's kind of hard to believe these idiots pulled it off.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by mr-lizard
 


I once thought that to, but then realized these idiots couldn't carry a bucket of water let alone an attack like that and keep it secret. Seriously, I was a supporter of the idea that it was the Bush Admin. But I realized that they just sucked. That when given the information in a memo that detailed every thing they needed too know to stop it... they went on vacation. Look at how they messed every thing up. It's kind of hard to believe these idiots pulled it off.


But since 9/11 the word 'muslim' has become synonymous with terrorism, yet only a tiny percentage of these fanatics are the cause of such problems and are breaking true Islamic law by hurting and killing.

Basically, true Islam forbids the killing of innocents.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 11:00 AM
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And then there's the belief that it was actually Israel that plotted, planned and carried out the attacks on 9/11 and framed it on the Muslims.

Makes more sense doesn't it. The Jews had everything to gain, the muslims had nothing.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 11:03 AM
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Depends on the nation. Iran hates us, and the West. Except for the royal family the Saudis hate us. Iraqis hate us, Hamas hates us. Sure some like most of the Kuwaitis still like, or are neutral. But still, there is no way these idiots pulled off any thing. If they did the JFK assassination the driver would have been shot in the leg and Kennedy would have lived. If these people tried to pull off the Lincoln assassination Lincoln's wife would have been shot in the arm and Lincoln probably would have ran for office a third and maybe even fourth time.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 11:18 AM
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But since 9/11 the word 'muslim' has become synonymous with terrorism, yet only a tiny percentage of these fanatics are the cause of such problems and are breaking true Islamic law by hurting and killing.

Basically, true Islam forbids the killing of innocents.


Only you and I are not innocents under the definition.

Islam is not synonomous with terrorism. However, to ignore that many terrorists working on a political and religious domination are currently members of Islam would be foolish.

See how that works. Not all Christians are Catholics, but all Catholics are Christian. Not all Islam are terrorists, but you cannot be in Islam and critize or work against your brother in Islam in conjection with the non-Islamic individual.

The leaders of the Islamic World have an agenda, and they use terroist actions in many parts of the World and in their homelands. Occassionally, that has spilled into the First World. Usually the keep their work closer to home, or in areas of interest that are rich in the resources or power they are trying to accumulate. Such as Africa.

Neither side is incompetent. Plans and risk assessements don't always work out clearly.

There is an agenda behind the political leaders of Islam. They are quite clear in telling you what it is. That is an Pan-Islamic State based on Sharia and Islam. And the economic might for a few leaders. Not on equality. Not on democracy, though they might occassionally tolerate some very modified forms of it.

You guys really need to delve a bit deeper. Motives are there, and they have a purpose.

Those leaders of Islam want a big power block. The area they want it in consolidates a very important section of the planet. Just because it isn't HERE doens't mean it isn't important. Even crucial to World trade.

America has to deal with the idea that of protecting rights, making people jobs, and a tendency to Isolationism that is very defeatist to any long term stability. Just because you WANT to pretend that the world outside your borders doesn't matter and can't hurt you if you ignore it doesn't make it true.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 11:33 AM
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btw.imb.org...

Here is a map of the current Islamic nations. Remember when looking at this map that people naturally tend to think that areas further away and less important to them are smaller. Russia is the largest country in the World. Africa is FAR larger than most people in the First World tend to think it is.

The Islamic Terrorists in the Horn of Africa and the Maghreb clearly state that they are attacking their governments because they are resisting the Islamic State. This is being misinterpreted as them saying that they are wanting to make their governments Islam, which is true. However, they specifically say "The Islamic State."

The areas you are hearing about the most fighting in are areas where they would have difficulty consolidating their power to create a large and coherent economic power block. India for example is between them and their Islannd Nations. The Phillipines is inconveniently Christian in its placement.

The Canal that makes trade routes better is right smack in the middle of the whole thing.

The resources in the Horn and Maghreb of Africa are immense, and currenlty mostly unattainable due to .....terrorism and the instability it creates. These nations in the Horn are also rich in both types of uranium used for nuclear projects. Such as the uranium found in the two bombs that hit Japan.

Hey, Australia do you REALLY want to be cut off from the rest of the First World? All your trade routes controlled by an Islamic power block?

THIS is what they are fighting for. This is their goal. This pie is sweet enough to entice even the most recaltraint man to the pot.

You are not fit to rule. They believe that. You think that you should not care about that. But they believe that they ARE fit to rule. While you might not want Dominion over them, THEY do believe that they are ENTITLED to Dominion over you.

Look deeper people. There is more going on than you think, and you cannot dismiss people based on your prejudices.

Almost all the most important things done in the World and in history were done by a small driven group of people. Never underestimate that in, others or yourself. A small group inside of another group with a driven purpose can make a majority.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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What exactly is this thread about? We all know terrorists exist. So what's the general point of this thread?



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by _Phoenix_
What exactly is this thread about? We all know terrorists exist. So what's the general point of this thread?


Ohh your general narrow minded bashathon,where people that have no clue about the wider world come together, pretend they do then give each other stars.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 11:40 AM
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That people talk about the Jews killing Muslims. Or America killing Muslims. But they can only dream to kill as many Muslims as the Muslims kill.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by GamerGal
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That people talk about the Jews killing Muslims. Or America killing Muslims. But they can only dream to kill as many Muslims as the Muslims kill.

And your point is? Sounds like your playing a game. I hope your point is that all sides are wrong.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 11:49 AM
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America wasn't wrong to invade Afganistan after 9/11. Israel isn't wrong to attack Hamas after it fires over 3,000 missiles a year. The Muslims? Murder others for singing at a wedding, or for premarital sex, or for not marrying a 12 year old girl.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 11:51 AM
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The muslims are the bad guys now?


Not all Palestinians (which is what I am assuming you are talking about in this thread, where you break down everything into muslims vs jews and christians) are muslim. Are the Christian Palestinians who defend themselves (or heck, even the ones who toss fireworks into Israel), terrorists, or is there a different word for them? What about the Israelis who kill the innocent Christian Palestinians? Are those Israelis worthy of punishment, while the rest are okay?


It is depressing how this is turned into a religious thing. It is depressing how religion is being used as justification (both from sides of the Israeli and their American backers, and from the Palestinian side) for this. Does it matter what the religion of the innocents who are being killed is?

[edit on 20-1-2009 by babloyi]



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by GamerGal
America wasn't wrong to invade Afganistan after 9/11. Israel isn't wrong to attack Hamas after it fires over 3,000 missiles a year. The Muslims? Murder others for singing at a wedding, or for premarital sex, or for not marrying a 12 year old girl.

Riiiiight, the muslims? What do you mean by that? So is this just another anti muslim thread like hundreds of others on this site?



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 11:52 AM
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Doesn't matter if "all sides are wrong."

What matters is what type of policitial system would you like to have? Because, cutting yours off at the knees so that you can be "fair" to violent idiots isn't exactly in your best intersts.



posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 12:02 PM
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If you want just Palestinian/Hamas go here... www.abovetopsecret.com... or here... www.abovetopsecret.com... for Hamas killing Palestinians.





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