I am still undecided on Billy. I think of all UFO cases I have looked at, Meier's is the most frustrating. Like everyone I too cannot believe that
the ray-gun is real and some of those UFO pics look too fake, but then again there are some pics which are very impressive. Let's not forget that
Marcel Vogel has said that the metal sample Meier gave him could not be reproduced on this Earth. The UFO sound recording has also not been
reproduced. Moreover, he is supported by some of my most trusted sources: Disclosure Project and Phill Schnieder.
So I am not sure what is going on with Billy. Either the fake-looking pics are legit or they are fake, but not all his stuff is fake. See, this is why
it is frustrating.
Its been proven that they are fake.. there are even pictures of the objects he used for the photos and books that the dinosaur pics were taken
Seriously. If he was telling the truth.. why fake anything?
I would like to see those picutures before I conclude they are fake. I find photographic evidence to the weakest kind of evidence in these cases
because they always look inconclusive.
Anyway why would Meier fake some of his photos? I was watching a video on Meier on Youtube where a very sincere speaker is presenting his evidence,
where even he thinks some of Meiers photos maybe fake. Apparently, since the contacts ended, no more evidence was forthcoming, so either Meier or his
associates felt the need to fake some evidence to show the contacts were still going on. Apparently, the whole Meier thing and his followers became
very messy and political in the end and it all became very ugly and Meier's information was taken over by corporate structures within the
I have seen some of Meiers videos and the many photos which show the UFO very high in the sky and they are quite compelling. So I am still undeceded
on him. I sometimes move more towards belief and sometimes more to doubt. This is why it is a frustrating case.
He probably fell victim to the media by the people around him trying to feel special.
I'm not saying he's for real, because i simply do not know, but IMH it is very easy for "the in-crowd" to make anyone with ufo experiences look
like a nut or hoaxer.
Originally posted by blupblup
Also, try and make it through this without laughing.
Interesting... but truly funny.
On a prehistoric planet.....
[edit on 20/1/09 by blupblup]
Hmm Well after seeing that im even more convinced hes a fraud, although some of those space photos are pretty neat. However considering i saw a doco
decades ago where a guy that made space photos for a living made amazing alien moon shots with nothing but a well cooked bread roll and well placed
lighting... and his shots wherent chronically out of focus like billies.
But after seeing that photo of a Iguanadon (it is an Iguanadon since the thumb spine is clearly visible in even that blurred photo) I can
categorically state all his dino planet shots are fake... since the Iguanadon was always displayed for a very long time in museums with its skeleton
in an upright walking stance (as was T-Rex displayed) up until not to long ago (20 years or so) since it wasnt until then that people realized that
the tail bones when being displayed with the entire skeletons had been un-naturally bent to achieve an upright posture way back in the day. I saw this
brought up first in a doco about dinosaurs about 15 years ago and it was amazing to see the horribly bent tail in the displayed skeletons. It sort of
hit you like "Wow I never even noticed it before how wrong it looks!".
The fact billy's Iguanadon is shown to have the now well known incorrectly (man made) posture (a posture its actual skeleton, due to the tail
vertebra. Can not actually assume in reality) shows the photo is fake and the dino is a fake based on old (or at the time of photography)
ergo it is fake so therefore so are all the other related 'prehistory vacation' photos are ALSO fake.
Mentions at the bottom about the change in accepted posture thanks to more complete skeletons and a better understanding of dino movement. Pitty it
doesnt mention when that new idea about its locomotion was put forward, either way Billys is clearly based on the older wrong information hence a
fake. Really Billys is even MORE wrong than the old posture since his almost has a complete vertical spine which the Iguanadon just cant assume.
Billys dinos posture reminds me of the old Kids books about dinos and the old dino toys we used to get in the 80's. ie with lots of artistic
liberties and license incorporated into em.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
Apparently, since the contacts ended, no more evidence was forthcoming, so either Meier or his associates felt the need to fake some evidence to show
the contacts were still going on. Apparently, the whole Meier thing and his followers became very messy and political in the end and it all became
very ugly and Meier's information was taken over by corporate structures within the organization.
[edit on 30-3-2009 by Indigo_Child]
Unfortunately Meiers should have kept his integrity if in fact he did have geniune contact. The fact he appears to have gone along with it would show
to me the color of his strips which is the ultimate downfall in his case. Perhaps he had one or two really excellent sightings and maybe even a
contact, but ended up having it giving him a god complex... might explain why the real sightings and contacts might have dried up (If they happened).
'hey Zorbo nice going on that one, I thought you vetted our human contacts', 'oh shut it Toth, hes got only one arm, I felt sorry for the
Basically saying none of this would have happened in a geniune contact case (ie Followers, in fighting, profiteering) .
Good to see that your looking at him more critically now Indigo . Doesnt mean stop believing, never do that. But maintaining a little skepticism is
an excellent temper to finding the real truth in everything.
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