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White House press secretary Ari Fleischer told reporters yesterday said the headline on the document was, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike the United States." But sources who have read the memo said the headline ended with the phrase "in U.S."
Now, on August 6th, the President received a presidential daily briefing which was not a warning briefing, but an analytic report. This analytic report, which did not have warning information in it of the kind that said, they are talking about an attack against so forth or so on, it was an analytic report that talked about UBL's methods of operation, talked about what he had done historically, in 1997, in 1998. It mentioned hijacking, but hijacking in the traditional sense, and in a sense, said that the most important and most likely thing was that they would take over an airliner, holding passengers and demand the release of one of their operatives. And the blind sheikh was mentioned by name as -- even though he's not an operative of al Qaeda, but as somebody who might be bargained in this way.
Originally posted by Phoenix
Pretty much shows that "regular" hijackings with hostage taking was the expected possibility - not airplanes as missiles like some would have us believe the Bush admin knew of but didn't.
"We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a (-censored-) service in 1998 saying that bin Ladin wanted to hijack a US aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Shaykh" 'Umar 'Abd aI-Rahman and other US-held extremists," said the memo.
Originally posted by Seekerof
As such mOjOm, was there even a crystal ball that could have been used to predict and then prevent 9/11 from happening?
Both parties, Democratic and Republican, have openly admitted before the 9/11 Commision that such an act could not have been prevented, correct?
I also think that your argument, "My point is that there is enough of a clue in that memo to be sufficient", can likewise be applied to the previous administration in that there was 'enough of a clue' to indicate that the possibility of a terrorist attack could happen within the US? The previous administration had roughly 8 years to do something versus roughly 8 months? Despite this, neither administration or preceeding administrations prior to Clinton, had access to a crystal ball.
Instead of there being Clairvoyance, Complacency comes to mind.
[Edited on 10-4-2004 by Seekerof]
Mr. HOLLINGS: Now, they say...we didn't know anything about a plane going into a building.
Well, in December 1994, the al-Qaida hijacked an Air France plane
that was headed into the Eiffel Tower. Who has not heard of flying a
plane into a structure?
In 1995, the CIA was hot on the Philippines and thwarted the blowup
or the crashing of eight planes at one particular time. They learned of the plan to do what? To crash a plane into the CIA building. That was back 6 years before 9/11.
And then, in January of 2000, in Malaysia, there was an article with respect to al-Qaida.
(The following excerpts are quoted from the article mentioned above, as it was printed in the Record.)
"To bolster their case, FBI officials have now prepared a
detailed chart showing how agents could have uncovered the
terrorist plot if they had learned about Almihdhar and
Alhazmi sooner, given their frequent contact with at least
five of the other hijackers. ``There's no question we could
have tied all 19 hijackers together,'' the official said.
Almihdhar and Alhazmi, parading across
America in plain sight, could not have been easier to find.
Newsweek has learned that when Almihdhar's visa expired, the
State Department, not knowing any better, simply issued him a
new one in June 2001--even though by then the CIA had linked
him to one of the suspected bombers of the USS Cole in
Originally posted by Valhall
Seems to me the memo states that they
Now, no "semantics" involved here. My question is simple...
WTF more were they supposed to do?
[Edited on 4-11-2004 by Valhall]
Originally posted by Valhall
But you can't put the general populace on alert for a long-standing, amorphous threat. Since 9/11 they have put us on alert for "ill-defined threats" and you can search the pages of this site alone to find out how quickly people started bitching and whining about the incessant elevated threat levels and "endless ill-defined threats".
For once I would like to see some of you folks admit that it doesn't matter WHAT the government does, you WON'T be happy, and you WILL blame them for everything little and BIG thing that doesn't go your way.
Several U.S. officials said there was no warning in the days before the attacks that a major operation was in the works. "In terms of specific warning that something of this nature was to occur, no," one official said.
But journalists with access to bin Laden said he and his followers openly boasted in recent months that they were preparing for attacks against the United States in retaliation for American support of Israel. Abdel-Bari Atwan, editor of the the al Quds al Arabi newspaper in London, said he was convinced that Islamic fundamentalists aligned with bin Laden were "almost certainly" behind the attacks.
Since 1996, he has been living under protection of the fundamentalist Taliban regime in Afghanistan in a remote mountain redoubt. He has previously been linked to terrorists who attempted to destroy the World Trade Center in 1993. He has also been indicted for the deadly 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya and was linked to last October's attack on the USS Cole in Aden, Yemen, which killed 17 American servicemen........
Instead, U.S. officials said, most signs quickly pointed to bin Laden. In addition to being a suspect in the Cole bombing, bin Laden was indicted in New York in December 2000 in connection with the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania on Aug. 7, 1998, in which 224 people were killed and more than 4,000 injured.
"Murad narrated to us about a plan by the Ramzi cell in the continental U.S. to hijack a commercial plane and ram it into the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, and also the Pentagon," said Rodolfo Mendoza, a Philippine intelligence investigator.
Philippine investigators also found evidence targeting commercial towers in San Francisco, Chicago and New York City.
They said they passed that information on to the FBI in 1995, but it's not clear what was done with it.
WASHINGTON -- Two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, an analysis prepared for U.S. intelligence warned that Osama bin Laden's terrorists could hijack an airliner and fly it into government buildings like the Pentagon......
Former President Clinton, golfing in Hawaii, played down the intelligence value of the 1999 report.