Communism is Unconstitutional!

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posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 09:10 PM
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Thank God


Hey so what do our resident commies think of that fact?

Primarily it is upheld in Amendment 4 but also various parts of the Articles.

Sincerely,
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posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 09:16 PM
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BUt yet it isnt illegal to have a communist party that confuses me???



posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 09:57 PM
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Well I suppose it makes sense, if you were to restrict Communism's freedom of speech, than no one would ever be informed on it to possibly vote to ratify the constitution to be changed so that communism can be allowed...


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posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 10:03 PM
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If human nature allowed communism to work correctly, Russia would be a better place.



posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 10:06 PM
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Good point Knuckles.

Communism in theory would be utopia. Human greed prevents that so in practice, Communism doesn't work.

-Mal



posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 10:13 PM
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Exactly my friend.


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posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by Malsua

Good point Knuckles.

Communism in theory would be utopia. Human greed prevents that so in practice, Communism doesn't work.

-Mal


IDD!! I was trying to say that in the socialism thread but that MT69 Dude made me quit posting in that thread.


[Edited on 23-1-2003 by B]



posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 10:29 PM
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That sucks. Were you post-spamming?



posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 10:35 PM
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Post spamming??? now you wouldn't know anything about that knuckles would you..


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posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by Knuckles
That sucks. Were you post-spamming?


Not that I know of. The person wich made my stop post was just narrowminded & rude! He didn't even take the possibility to consider me toughts and to react on it. Really read the thread and you'll see what I mean
I'm an openminded person & I like to discus possibilities but he didn't



posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 11:14 PM
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I'll also comment that Capitalism is a better plan.

The only reason that socialism can exist is that countries like the USA have armies that prevent socialist counties from getting taken over since they have no means by which to protect themselves. Canada is a case in point. If the USA wasn't armed to the teeth, Canada would have to spend more than a few percentages of their budget on self protection.

Yes I know...Canadians will be incensed by this...fact remains...without the US to their southern border, their gov't would collapse because they couldn't afford their socialist gov't and a need for strong military to prevent being overrun. This applies to socialism everywhere. It doesn't work in a world where terrority is coveted. If you can't protect it one way or another, people will take it. (Oh, and peacenicks..back off about Iraqi oil...the U.S. annouced today protectionisms about the oil reserves, the US isn't about to steal anyone's oil, it mostly goes to France, Russia and Germany...gee the most anti war folks, go figure.)


-Mal



posted on Jan, 23 2003 @ 08:43 AM
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"communism is unconstitutional" -- what do I think of that?

Of COURSE it's "unconstitutional" because we have a constitution that sets up a republic. Therefore, Monarchy is unconstitutional as is Theocracy, Anarchy, Feudalism, Oligarchy, Plutocracy, Magocracy, Dictatorship, Polity, Ochlocracy, Fascism, Polity, totalitarianism, Provincial Governance, Parlimentary government, Heterarchy, Imperialism, Diarchy, Albocracy, Angelocracy (no, not making that one up), -- AND pure Democracy as well as another hundred or so types of governance (yes, really) that you could care to name.

The only government system available under the Constitution is that of a Republic. Everything else is technically "unconstitutional." Does it mean that it's illegal? Not really. Can we vote to change to another form of government if everyone wanted that? Absolutely.


This isn't a terribly profound statement. Under a Communist government, a Republic (or the other forms of government mentioned there) are "unconstitutional." Under a Theocracy, Republics and other forms of government are "unconstitutional." Under Great Britain's laws, a Republic is "unconstitutional."

I thought the point was rather self-evident.

[Edited on 23-1-2003 by Byrd]



posted on Jan, 23 2003 @ 08:48 AM
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"Communism is Unconstitutional! Thank God Hey so what do our resident commies think of that fact?"

think, "so what" I'm not bound by your constitution.
you can restrict your political freedoms as much as you like, I'm happy living in a country where I have the freedom to choose.


B

posted on Jan, 23 2003 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by Malsua
(Oh, and peacenicks..back off about Iraqi oil...the U.S. annouced today protectionisms about the oil reserves, the US isn't about to steal anyone's oil, it mostly goes to France, Russia and Germany...gee the most anti war folks, go figure.)

But if it isn't about the oil then it's about the "dictator" right?????????

Well eeeerm last time I've checked there was still a whoooooooooooooole list with countries with dictators... Why not go there first?

And don't start with Iraq has weapons of mass destruction... DAMN YOU GUYS PROBABLY HAVE THE MOST WEAPON ON THIS ENTIRE PLANET!!! Who says you guys aren't a threat??? I know it sounds ridiculous but WHO DOES???

And may I remind you that you've already invaded Iraq? Goddamned, daddy Bush had to finish what he started! But noooo he ran away and left Saddam in power, not very efficient imho... Look at the consequences now, America is again gonna have to spend a lot of money to throw over the dictatorship, you could've used it to throw over another dictatorship you know, but maybe in those country's there isn't enough oil or other resources


And to stay on topic Communism never had the chance to evolve! Keep that in mind! Communism gradly changed in a Dictatorship so it never could evolve. Perhaps, I DO SAY PERHAPS!!!, if Communism was a bit with mixed with TRUE democracy (let the people decide everything in cooperation with the gouvernment) then MAYBE it would work. But ofcourse then again I'm only a dreamer



posted on Jan, 23 2003 @ 10:06 AM
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must be something in your water.... first of all we dont have a socialist gov't, we have a capitalist gov't. and if u actuallly looked into the matter of why our army sucks is because we dont give a # about your problems. no one has any problems with canada so why should we go sticking our noses in # that isnt any of our business? and back when canadians did care about war you'd see that we did have a better army than the united states. you know the days back when it wasnt about nukes and # it was about man to man combat. thats when war meant something. now its just about a bunch of pussies trying to increase their ego's.


B

posted on Jan, 23 2003 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by decifer
you know the days back when it wasnt about nukes and # it was about man to man combat. thats when war meant something. now its just about a bunch of pussies trying to increase their ego's.


HEAR HEAR!!!! NICE TALKING DECIFER!!!

They should throw Bush & Saddam in a boksing ring & let them fight themselves

I'm sick of being cattle for politicians



posted on Jan, 23 2003 @ 10:34 AM
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Bush would loose in such a match...Saddam has much more efficient "military background" than the Shrub ever dreamed of having...

Just check on the Shrub's records during his "term of service" that he tried to keep hidden until after the election...



posted on Jan, 23 2003 @ 11:24 AM
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What's wrong with communism? I am all for it. social and capitalism are just forms of government so that greedy people can live the way they want to.



posted on Jan, 29 2003 @ 05:50 PM
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Amendment IV - Search and seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.



Originally posted by FreeMason
Communism is Unconstitutional!
Primarily it is upheld in Amendment 4 but also various parts of the Articles.


it's just silly to jump to that conclusion... the current constitution is only adaptable to your representative democracy, as Byrd made it clear.
we have our own constitution...
www.cpusa.org...

but in any case... privacy can be contrary to the collective will of the people under any gov't.
the new homeland security programs are a complete attack against our civil rights... however, the gov't finds it necessary for the sake of peace & order, which is constantly threatened by the attacks of individuals.

overall, it seems apparent that people are still brainwashed from the mccarthyist era...
we are still convinced that the outcomes of the 'self-proclaimed' socialist nations of the past were the actual outcomes of marxism.
and even those who don't believe this... they believe communism doesn't have a chance due to human greed. which is not true at all, they only think this way because that is the condition forced upon them under capitalism... a type of 'eat or be eaten' mentality.
when you encounter socialism, you will see that type of attitude is not in anyway visible... because everyone's needs are met. competition, therefore, will be replaced with harmony.



posted on Jan, 29 2003 @ 11:04 PM
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i've said it before, i'll say it again. If communism worked why did the soviet union colapse?? i'll tell you. because comunism is a great idea, but it doesn't work. the only way for it to work is if everyone can be satisfied with mediocrity. sure some of the people can be happy with that but the rest of us will get sick and tired of supporting the lowlife scumbags that are happy with half ass work.





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