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reply posted on 20-1-2009 @ 12:07 PM by truthquest
Originally posted by tide88
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I have not be effected by anything that Bush has put into law. You say he destroyed my rights? What rights are those? What has changed in your life that is different today then it was 20 years ago. My life and rights are exactly the same. And btw there is no proof that the NWO even exists. You don't prove something wrong that has never proven to be right. It is like saying aliens exist because there is no proof the dont exist. But by all means, if have proof, please post it. And you can wish all you want about the USA and its downward spiral, but it isnt going to happen. BTW as per my prediction about about the NWO and Obama and anti christ threads, there are already threads starting today on this. Guess I was wrong. I said two weeks. It was one day. What a joke.


A lot has changed since Bush took office. I notice there are security cameras everywhere on the roadways where I live these days. When Bush took office there were ZERO cameras on the intersections in my area, which is suburban. Basically a lot of things that "you are complete kook conspiracy theorist to believe would ever happen" before Bush took office, are now a reality.

Since Bush took office, I've been probably been getting spied on a lot more, just like you. Since Bush took office, the world has changed from basically loving the USA, with the most famous example being the article French person written "I am an American" after 9/11, to a nation where the world hates the USA, with the most famous example being the article by the same French person writing "I am not an American" shortly after Bush started shooting at anything that moved overseas and had a patch of oil underneath.

Also, 9/11 happened under his watch. 9/11 may not have affected you in any way at all but I'll tell you it has effected me more than any other event. So in that sense Bush has personally effected me a hell of lot more than I imagined any president could.

I refer you to the Patriot Act, along with any passed versions of that make thinking certain ways or expressing certain ideas a crime. I'll be honest, I don't have a list for you ready to go of Bush laws that have effected my life. Maybe I should have done that, and I probably will with Obama since he'll be just as much of a jerk I suspect. But perhaps unlike you my life is a lot about OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES. So if something effects someone else then I take personal offense as an American citizen who cares about this country.

So, I don't believe its fair at all to say "oh it does not specifically effect you it only effected thousands of others". Well as it happens I do have empathy and when a fellow human is suffering than I may not be particularly happy about it either. Bush has effected everyone in the United States.

[edit on 20-1-2009 by truthquest]


reply posted on 20-1-2009 @ 12:54 PM by YoungStalin
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Yeah the threads about him not giving up his power all were put up after starwars episode 3 came out


reply posted on 20-1-2009 @ 02:35 PM by tide88
Originally posted by truthquest



A lot has changed since Bush took office. I notice there are security cameras everywhere on the roadways where I live these days. When Bush took office there were ZERO cameras on the intersections in my area, which is suburban. Basically a lot of things that "you are complete kook conspiracy theorist to believe would ever happen" before Bush took office, are now a reality.

Since Bush took office, I've been probably been getting spied on a lot more, just like you. Since Bush took office, the world has changed from basically loving the USA, with the most famous example being the article French person written "I am an American" after 9/11, to a nation where the world hates the USA, with the most famous example being the article by the same French person writing "I am not an American" shortly after Bush started shooting at anything that moved overseas and had a patch of oil underneath.

Also, 9/11 happened under his watch. 9/11 may not have affected you in any way at all but I'll tell you it has effected me more than any other event. So in that sense Bush has personally effected me a hell of lot more than I imagined any president could.

I refer you to the Patriot Act, along with any passed versions of that make thinking certain ways or expressing certain ideas a crime. I'll be honest, I don't have a list for you ready to go of Bush laws that have effected my life. Maybe I should have done that, and I probably will with Obama since he'll be just as much of a jerk I suspect. But perhaps unlike you my life is a lot about OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES. So if something effects someone else then I take personal offense as an American citizen who cares about this country.

So, I don't believe its fair at all to say "oh it does not specifically effect you it only effected thousands of others". Well as it happens I do have empathy and when a fellow human is suffering than I may not be particularly happy about it either. Bush has effected everyone in the United States.

[edit on 20-1-2009 by truthquest]


So what there are more camera for surveillance. How have those cameras affected your life. Who cares if they are taping you. As long as you are abiding the law it doesnt matter. Those camera's have done a lot more good then harm. Please, give me one example where surveillance cameras affected some innocent person. Okay so you are so worried about other people. Where has the patriot act hurt those other people. I cant find one person I know and havent heard about one innocent person that it has affected. And I am sure it has affected some innocent people, but how many lives have been saved. How many terrorist attacks has it prevented. And to blame Bush for 911 is rediculous. Unless you are one of those loons who think he planned it. He wasn't even in office for 6 months when it happened. No matter who was president the same probably would have happened. But I am sure you are one of those people who blame others for the problems you have, and blaming Bush probably just makes you feel better. BTW cant wait to see the new Obama threads in the months to come.

[edit on 20-1-2009 by tide88]


reply posted on 20-1-2009 @ 05:03 PM by kyred
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Okay, I guess I can take off my tin foil hat. No, wait. I need to put it back on because Obama might be the antichrist.




reply posted on 20-1-2009 @ 05:09 PM by coastlinekid
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"As long as you are abiding the law it doesnt matter"

Yikes,... sounds scary to me...

Not a road we as a country should continue down...




reply posted on 20-1-2009 @ 05:23 PM by loam
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I'm not a liberal, and to say I wasn't concerned would be a lie.

Frankly, laughing at vigilance in this environment, where much has changed concerning the manner of our governance, smacks of reckless self-assurance, imo.

With at least 6000 years of human efforts before us, the fact we prevail in our freedoms is a miracle all by itself.

Think about that.


[edit on 20-1-2009 by loam]


reply posted on 20-1-2009 @ 05:33 PM by tide88
Originally posted by coastlinekid
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"As long as you are abiding the law it doesnt matter"

Yikes,... sounds scary to me...

Not a road we as a country should continue down...


The point is we have plenty of freedoms left. And for all the laws that the patriot act has added I cant find one person it has had a negative effect on. Now I am sure there are some, but as I said before there probably are more positive things to come out of it then negative. And the so called horror stories that sites such as infowars post are not that bad. I like the one that is copywrite infringment on the rubix cube.
Homeland Security Agents Visit Toy Store Wow that patriot act sure is taking away people's rights.
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