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Originally posted by redwolf.of.odin
all so on the main topic i agree that most people in the world seek a inlightenment in one form or another. but i do not think this is a new think i think it is something we have been doing for all of recorded time. mans search for enlightenment pretty much started when we used tools for the first time. the conception of human thought.
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by Ant4AU
There is a differance though.... One of our loops is based on real research and explorations... the other is based on one book that tells you to belive it or go to hell.
The earth is not 6000 years old.... Noahs ark is NOT FEASIBLE AT ALL.
Fertile soil will reap the finest harvest, but uncultivated will produce the rankest of weeds.
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by John Matrix
You sure are inventive when it comes to rationalizing your delusions.
Maybe you should turn that energy towards how there is no god. Turn that logic to a real explination.
Originally posted by Gears Of War
No
Mankind simply has a more powerful brain, we have developed more, we have reasoning and thought capabilities, we don't simply function on genetic survival thoughts as such.
You can't compare beavers and cows to humans...
Mankind gets bored, they invent, they think, have vivid imaginations and struggle with their own existence... they get scared so they create a savior to make themselves feel better...
[edit on 19-1-2009 by Gears Of War]
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by John Matrix
Can you not do such a thing? You are so creative... yet you dare not turn that eye towards your own folly? What an amazing cage you have all built for yourself. A prison whos bars have been hardened by ignorance and electrified by blind faith... locked from the inside. Im sure you and your kind will be burning witches in no time to apease your god.
Originally posted by Ant4AU
reply to post by Wertdagf
Just because you can’t put faith in God doesn’t mean someone else can’t. I don’t know what happened to make you so anti God. I do not see how I am imprisoned. I chose to live a moral life. So if that means I am imprisoned then I guess I am.
It was the radicals and the fundamentalists that had the witch burnings and started the crusades. It was the corrupt man who realized that he could make a buck off of people using religion. It was the corrupt individuals that lead the masses to believe that only with the help of a priest or pastor that one could find understanding of the scriptures and redemption. Then “free thinking” Christians started to study on their own and realized the follies in mainstream religion.
Originally posted by Gears Of War
No
Mankind simply has a more powerful brain, we have developed more, we have reasoning and thought capabilities, we don't simply function on genetic survival thoughts as such.
You can't compare beavers and cows to humans...
Mankind gets bored, they invent, they think, have vivid imaginations and struggle with their own existence... they get scared so they create a savior to make themselves feel better...
[edit on 19-1-2009 by Gears Of War]
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by John Matrix
Infinity veiwed from outside of time would have a pattern, or design. That design would be god. My personality... my very thoughts are shaped by the pattern of infinty that i am living in. I am a sum result of my expreiances and thoughts, which are in turn the sum result of the design of infinity. I used to veiw myself as a person with everything grown by myself on the inside, but now i see myself as a sum result of everything givin from the outside. Not an image or an item... but an outline that can expand beyond myself and into infinity.
God is causality..... He doesnt grant your wishes... he doesnt forgive your sins. God isnt a he, she, or it. God is nothing more than the 3d fractal.
Originally posted by thomas_
I'm not even get into the religious stuff. But "more powerful brain" and all the traces mentioned by you don't mean much on a larger picture.
The universe always stays on balance whether you, me and everyone else likes it or not.
Everything that we take as progress automatically generates a regressive state in other matters. If you search for something very hard you might get it but once you do you may realize that you lost something along the way. That's why all this struggle.
Everything that we do (create, invent) to move us forward in one regard automatically moves us backwards on other regards.
Animals in the other hand can be considered smarter then humans in some aspects since they manage (know how) to live in perfect balance. They don't need the desire to be anything else aside what they already are. They just live.
While humans are constantly searching for something in the extreme (eventually reaching them at certain times) keeping the mere illusion of "moving forward" while in fact we aren't moving at all.
That doesn't mean that I think we all should be living in caves, walking around naked and eating raw food, but I'm certain that we haven't found the balance of existence yet. And we may never find it since we are not looking for it.
I think that this was exactly what Buddha, Christ and many others were talking about, walking the middle path.