Originally posted by redwolf.of.odin
all so on the main topic i agree that most people in the world seek a inlightenment in one form or another. but i do not think this is a new think i think it is something we have been doing for all of recorded time. mans search for enlightenment pretty much started when we used tools for the first time. the conception of human thought.

Could this incurable desire to search be the result of a deep need to be restored to a higher state that we once had but then lost?

Yeah turn your mind away from the thousands of years of human experience, understanding and reason
Use your intellect to disprove your own history, culture and ancestry for vain fiction
Create your own reality; see the world in new eyes
Sounds like the tripe of one with a fallen depraved mind
Socrates made an astonishingly accurate statement (a couple of millennia ago) in regards to the “modern” mind
Fertile soil will reap the finest harvest, but uncultivated will produce the rankest of weeds.

Originally posted by Gears Of War
No

Mankind simply has a more powerful brain, we have developed more, we have reasoning and thought capabilities, we don't simply function on genetic survival thoughts as such.


You can't compare beavers and cows to humans...

Mankind gets bored, they invent, they think, have vivid imaginations and struggle with their own existence... they get scared so they create a savior to make themselves feel better...

[edit on 19-1-2009 by Gears Of War]

Mankind does invent His saviors, but Is there a Savior that created mankind, and then came to save mankind after the Great Fall of mankind ?

Is there anyone that sees mankinds restless pursuit of attaining a higher state of being, as evidence for His once having had a Divine Spirit that was Lost at the Great Fall of both Men and Angels?

Could Christ be the redeemer of that Spirit and the Savior of your Soul?
By Soul I am meaning our heart and mind.

Originally posted by Gears Of War
No

Mankind simply has a more powerful brain, we have developed more, we have reasoning and thought capabilities, we don't simply function on genetic survival thoughts as such.


You can't compare beavers and cows to humans...

Mankind gets bored, they invent, they think, have vivid imaginations and struggle with their own existence... they get scared so they create a savior to make themselves feel better...

[edit on 19-1-2009 by Gears Of War]

I'm not even get into the religious stuff. But "more powerful brain" and all the traces mentioned by you don't mean much on a larger picture.

The universe always stays on balance whether you, me and everyone else likes it or not.

Everything that we take as progress automatically generates a regressive state in other matters. If you search for something very hard you might get it but once you do you may realize that you lost something along the way. That's why all this struggle.

Everything that we do (create, invent) to move us forward in one regard automatically moves us backwards on other regards.

Animals in the other hand can be considered smarter then humans in some aspects since they manage (know how) to live in perfect balance. They don't need the desire to be anything else aside what they already are. They just live.

While humans are constantly searching for something in the extreme (eventually reaching them at certain times) keeping the mere illusion of "moving forward" while in fact we aren't moving at all.

That doesn't mean that I think we all should be living in caves, walking around naked and eating raw food, but I'm certain that we haven't found the balance of existence yet. And we may never find it since we are not looking for it.

I think that this was exactly what Buddha, Christ and many others were talking about, walking the middle path.

Originally posted by thomas_
I'm not even get into the religious stuff. But "more powerful brain" and all the traces mentioned by you don't mean much on a larger picture.

The universe always stays on balance whether you, me and everyone else likes it or not.

Everything that we take as progress automatically generates a regressive state in other matters. If you search for something very hard you might get it but once you do you may realize that you lost something along the way. That's why all this struggle.

Everything that we do (create, invent) to move us forward in one regard automatically moves us backwards on other regards.

Animals in the other hand can be considered smarter then humans in some aspects since they manage (know how) to live in perfect balance. They don't need the desire to be anything else aside what they already are. They just live.

While humans are constantly searching for something in the extreme (eventually reaching them at certain times) keeping the mere illusion of "moving forward" while in fact we aren't moving at all.

That doesn't mean that I think we all should be living in caves, walking around naked and eating raw food, but I'm certain that we haven't found the balance of existence yet. And we may never find it since we are not looking for it.

I think that this was exactly what Buddha, Christ and many others were talking about, walking the middle path.

I appreciate your comments. Our perspective grows.

Could it not be the Word sown in our hearts that cries out from the depths of our soul for want of a rebirth of the Spirit that was lost at the Fall?



[edit on 20-1-2009 by John Matrix]