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Will We Have Another Civil War and/or A Racial War in American Under Obama?

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posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 01:37 PM

Originally posted by bpg131313
IF something is to happen here in the US, I hope that all the people realize this fact and focus their attention where it needs to be focused on. I hope the middle class and poor will not attack one another as that will be antithetical to everything they desire.

They won't. They will unite. It will be a revolution against the elite not a civil war against our neighbors.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 01:39 PM
I see it like this, if Obama would have lost the election, there would have been civil war or mass civil unrest.

I believe that "they" (Shadow Gov, Liberal Elite, etc) thought if they could get Obama elected, he could be a pawn. Perhaps you noticed, many liberals are already angry at some of the things Obama is saying and deciding to do.

If God forbid something does happen to Obama while in office you can bet there will be major civil unrest.

It will also be extremely difficult to determine who is actually behind it as well.

Perhaps as a white man I should just move to Alaska now.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 01:52 PM
A revolution is a sudden change from one constitution to another. Evolving with a purpose in mind as it were. Here we are not talking about that at all. We are talking about organized mayhem and gratuitous hate and revenge killings. The citizens have become sheep.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 02:03 PM
reply to post by cbianchi513

how stupid are you to use wikipedia as your primary source for defense....

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 02:27 PM
well since obama is doing things that lincoln did maybe he will go to a play and get shot. if he is shot the shooter (like most) will then be killed by someone else, that someone else is then killed and so on. it is how the govt kills people.
if a race war does happen here are some good places to hide
1. in the mountains of tennessee
2. with the arabs in michigan
3. in canada
4 in puerto rico
never hide in mexico they exspect that

[edit on 19-1-2009 by kyoushi]

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 02:33 PM

Originally posted by The Parallelogram
Where the hell was this paranoid-schizophrenic fear of the police state for the last EIGHT DAMN YEARS while we had a president in office who was actively engaged in the dismantling of the constitution?


Have you not bee paying attention?

ATS is chock full of the Facsist GWB and his takeover of the constitution and trampling of this or that threads, every single day there were 100 new threads on GWB's Police State, GWB causing WWIII, Famine, wiping out blacks, stealing money, hoarding oil.. blah blah blah on and on it went.

According to ATS'er GWB has already declared matial law and taken a third term, we are all starving and we are in the midst of a civil war.. haven't you noticed?

Fact: "Police State" was the most mentioned term on ATS for the last 5 years.

Back me up MODS..

eGads man, where the hell were YOU?

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 02:34 PM
reply to post by LucidDreamer85

Can you see yourself killing three men coming onto your property in uniform to collect your guns? It's coming!
First it will be your guns, then your food and then your kids!
It's happening in other countries now. Look at how they are handling food shortages. Making new laws all the time for the fear and folks.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 02:44 PM
reply to post by redhead57

While I can appreciate what you are saying about another race war, I am angry at this conman for another reason. We have come a long way for rights and equality in America. Not perfect, but we are going places. Now, some illegal alien from Kenya is trashing all that, and is about to ignite more racism and hatred, back to square one. I hope it does not happen that way, but if he is assasinated before his actions become obvious to all that he is a Communist, or a Muslim, or just a bad person, then he will become a martyr. If he is 'removed' after his crimes are well known, then he will become a despicable criminal who was killed. The best option is for him to just be impeached, and live out his remaining days in infamy, somewhere in exile, like in Kenya. I publically call for his immediate impeachment! How's that for a record? A call for impeachment before his inauguration.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Alpha_Magnum
A revolution is a sudden change from one constitution to another. Evolving with a purpose in mind as it were. Here we are not talking about that at all. We are talking about organized mayhem and gratuitous hate and revenge killings. The citizens have become sheep.

   /ˌrɛvəˈluʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [rev-uh-loo-shuhn] Show IPA Pronunciation
1. an overthrow or repudiation and the thorough replacement of an established government or political system by the people governed.
2. Sociology. a radical and pervasive change in society and the social structure, esp. one made suddenly and often accompanied by violence. Compare social evolution.
3. a sudden, complete or marked change in something: the present revolution in church architecture.

Has nothing to do with a constitution. But could involved a constitution. As far as a purpose in mind, that would come quite quickly as soon as the people become so uncomfortable that they can't stand it.

Read Causes of the French Revolution

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 02:57 PM
reply to post by Iamonlyhuman

A revolution (from the Latin revolutio, "a turn around") is a fundamental change in power or organizational structures that takes place in a relatively short period of time. Aristotle described two types of political revolution:

1.Complete change from one constitution to another
2.Modification of an existing constitution.

Here the citizens will not have this idea in mind. It has nothing to do with the US Constitution when that is referred to above. The fact is the industrial age is just about over now. We will DEVOLVE not EVOLVE. The mad race to oblivion is ON! People in the USA already fight each day for resources. See if any new natural gas wells are due to come on line for heat and power.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 02:58 PM
To original poster:

Very good observations. I think you're absolutely right.

What's sad is the victimization here of black people into thinking 'their time has come' - meanwhile - they are just going to be used by the NWO to join Obama's Brigade - they will get all puffed up about their newfound power because of their black king - and you will soon see "climate cops" (aka Obamanoids) knocking on your door to check out your carbon usage.

It's sad for everyone all the way around - black people, white people, everyone.

in response to the poster re: 2A
And yeah, the 2nd Amendment calls for the PERSONAL right to bear arms, not just militias. And who do you think militias consist of? Individual people - DUH.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 02:59 PM
With Obama referring to Lincoln as much as he as and wanting to perform a more perfect "Union" it only means one things total complete control of all government as in state rights go out the window.

The civil war was fought over states rights vs. federal government rights. That is how the federal government has more power today than what was ever granted by the US Constitution.

So technically speaking the US Constitution went out the window back when the Civil War was fought and the Feds won.

Ever heard the saying, "The South Will Rise Again"? That is what it is about nothing to do with race it has everything to do with control and who should be in control.

Although the KKK has perverted that saying and it is now synonymous with white supremacists.

There will be another Civil war don't know when it will take place, but there will be another one.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 03:02 PM
In my opinion the British banking system and socialism in general maybe at war with America and those that appease these interests. Obama looks like Adolf hitler looked when he first came into office, charismatic, opposed to the "old way" and promising "change". To what maybe the question. Does he side with the National Socialism of the United NAtions and has plans to impose it upon us ala Linicoln upon the South through force as needed? If he attempts gun confiscation it will be worse than Mao in my opinon, and we will never live free again. European interests have been itching to disarm us for decades. One wonders though if we might go the way of Switzerland and being forced to be members of militias that are pro government defense? I don't know, how they will wreck economic freedom and blame libertarianism for the whole thing and get away with it, there are too many voices that will be heard in opposition. Unless, they censor and block internet use and destroy civility by using government staged terror to implement a kinid of martial law, they already have turned DC into a police state....what that says maybe that they have no faith in themselves and in the people, a real man of courage would not worry of security and if he had right ideas would need none. I think he maybe a phony. Only someone afraid of people would seperate himself from them, since he has ideas that offend and distrub many people he must be kept at a distance, that doesn't give one a sense of security or even freedom, that means at the least he maybe up to bad things, as Bush was as well and kept insulated from the world. It maybe like the pope and his pope mobile...where maybe his faith in God to protect himself from harm? Answer he has none, he really can't depend on his belief to wholly protect him from harm, since he engages in oversight of criminal actions and also complies with murder of countless people through his actions, same with any leader, they are all guilty of murder, hence the fear of being murdered and the doubt of one's true intentions by the people, sad but true. People are not to be trusted and that certainly applies to Obama as anyone else. But overall maybe the bloodletting will not occur as bad as in the past, but don't let your guard down. Also, try not to get paranoid by all this, I think these people have always been somewhat sociopathic, especially the ones that write books about themselves and promise to change the world, they can be extremely dangerous and since Biden said to be prepared ,then we can likely expect a tradgedy and it to be used to take away freedom from us and gover more power to him and his friends, that might cause your civil war, especially if a real threat can be manufactured like movie, as Bush and friends did with ease, now with Obama it will be like second nature.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 03:05 PM
reply to post by Alpha_Magnum

You need to go back to the first page to my post about what a revolution is and read it.

[edit on 19/1/09 by Pfeil]

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 03:15 PM
reply to post by Gregarious

Grow up!!!! If this man was not a citizen this would have been made clear long ago. Your racism is screaming so loud, your point it is muted!

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 03:45 PM
I'm just happy to be over here is Australia, where the closest we get to a civil war is bogans/rednecks rioting in housing estates.

I don't like Obama. I like the way he speaks, and what he supposedly stands for, but when push comes to shove, I think he will be the same as the last President, and the one before... and the one before that.

However, the last thing I want to see is his assassination. I watched his victory of election speech live, fearing the worst would happen. It didn't.

I'll be up at 3am here tomorrow morning to watch his Inauguration. The biggest security event in US history, it seems, but searching people in crowds and blocking off streets still wouldn't stop a sniper-esque event like what happened with JFK.

If Obama does get killed (and I really really really hope nothing happens to the man) I'm pretty sure many black Americans and Obamarites would riot.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 03:51 PM

Originally posted by moonrat
All you gun nuts are the same.

The second amendment doesn't actually say that the individual has a right to bear arms.

What it says (or means) is that a 'militia' that might form in the defense of the USA, has the right to bear arms.

Very big difference.

Try reading the document.

Try reading the Federalist Papers. They give a clear picture of what the right to keep and bear means. Keep in you home and bare if necessary in citizen formed militia. Nothing to do with storing weapons in an armory or waiting for official approval of your formation. Although conduct under these conditions should be well regulated, not breaking into homes and running wild in a lawless mob. Thats all that means.

But no I don't see a civil war but a war of words and ideological thought.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 04:04 PM
reply to post by Amelie

That may be where Obamas civilian security forces come into play.They are to be as well trained,funded and armed as the military.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 04:11 PM
reply to post by moonrat

Maybe you should reread it and look at the punctuation.Also you might check on how the SCOTUS ruled about the individual rights to arms.

The anti gun crowd are just like atheist in a fox hole.When they come under fire their out look changes.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 04:14 PM

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