Before you go to work you need to know this...

In response to the "before you watch more porn" thread I have decided to make this undertaking for the benefit of any wage-slaves (and I do mean SLAVES) who might be interested in perusing a post of substance and relevance.

Let us consider the western money market's exploitation and degradation of the third world. Does the name Sierra Leone mean anything to you? Rwanda? Sudan?

What about Iraq then? surely some of you CNN watching fools have heard of Iraq, in fact you probably convinced your own children that it would be a great idea to join the military so that they could die in Iraq and ensure that your Wall St portfolio would go up a 0.25 cents.

Let us consider Israel and the confagiration surrounding that dirty little escapade.

Isn't it true that Israel is almost exclusively supplied by the military/industrial complex otherwise known as the USA?

Isn't it true that without an ongoing conflict in this region the USA yould lose billions of dollars in defence contracts?

WHO GAINS?

Let us consider the attrocious and exploitative wage system in the USA. Is it really any surprise that people being paid $10US/hr are defaulting on their mortgages when credit is so readily available.

You are being enslaved.

I will tell you right now that I have nothing against the CITIZENS of the USA per se but I believe it is time for them to WAKE UP and take a good hard look at what is/has; being/been done in their name. In fact the Western world in general, who follows the USA in such a lemming, like manner should also take a good look at itself, my own country especially.

Take a look at SWEDEN, there's a good role model.


And yet people wish to criticize porn and say how degrading it is. How pathetic. So typical of the religios (Catholic) types to point out human barbarity in one respect and yet deny that and of the very HUMAN characters that make up their mythology should posess and HUMAN traits.



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Originally posted by JimmyBlonde
And yet people wish to criticize porn and say how degrading it is. How pathetic.

There was thread on here the other day with concerns if ConAgra Foods had Peanut Butter Salmonella, i actually thought that was pretty pathetic...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

but honestly I, an American, do agree with you (to a certain degree) our lovely system does produce debt, which in a sense could be slavery. I was just curious if your country had religion in it? I mean the way you sound, it would really put you in the whole guilty by association deal at the end of your spiel if it did, don't you think?

Well stated!

I agree with you on this one with being a wage slave. The only problem is how do you convince a society to realize that their entire culture/societal beliefs are based on a lie(i.e. working to fund wars in other countries while we go broke)?

I love how any time I would bring up the issue people stop listening. Especially if I mention not particularly supporting the military(as a whole, not individuals who serve thinking they 'make a difference').

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reply to post by JimmyBlonde

Does the name Sierra Leone mean anything to you? Rwanda? Sudan?

Actually yes it does. What of it? I find it ironic that you mention the evils of enslavement but give Sierra Leone as an example of Western degradation.

Check your history friend - very bad example.

There was thread on here the other day with concerns if ConAgra Foods had Peanut Butter Salmonella, i actually thought that was pretty pathetic...
www.abovetopsecret.com...


That was slightly uncalled for, but true...

However, I also an American agree, though I have no proof to back either side of the story, it does seem to be that way. And I'm not quite sure how to feel about that

Americans are bombarded with debt. From marketing the latest ipod, to the hottest cars, all that is needed is plastic or a loan. A home is no longer a home but equity that can be risked for more loans! People who don't use credit are counseled to get a credit card and start debt for themselves or they will not be able to get a loan.......what happened to a good payment history?

Money is created by debt, money has no value, no substance. People are so caught up in the hype, they live far beyond their means at the behest of the market, now the market is suffering as we all are.

Great post.

Originally posted by vonspurter


Actually yes it does. What of it? I find it ironic that you mention the evils of enslavement but give Sierra Leone as an example of Western degradation.

Check your history friend - very bad example.

I'm not quite sure what you are getting at with this von but I am interested to know why you site SL as a bad example. History would seem to back me up on this.

Would you care to elaborate?

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Yes of course. Sierra Leone was the place where the British returned previously enslaved Africans from Europe to freedom. From that time the British Navy used it as a base to capture slave ships en-route to Europe and again set the slaves free.
This is why the main port town is called Freetown.

Sorry, I was referring to the recent exploitation, direct or by association of market forces, of SL for it's various valuable commodities.

It would seem that western demand for SL resources has caused a lot of trouble in that region.

Certainly the reaction to this exploitation by the west on a local level in SL is abysmal and worthy of some scorn also but it remains a reaction.

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Having been there during the brief conflict in 2000 I know that the locals welcomed us, as they do the UN peacekeeping force that are there now. Yes, exploitation of their resources (diamonds) is probably the main agenda and that as you say goes on throughout Africa and the Middle East therefore I'm not disagreeing with you.

My thoughts are the West will start eying Africa more closely. The UK I believe is gearing itself up for a scuffle with Mugabe - not because of his atrocities although that will be the excuse. More of a land grab exercise - we need their resources and a valid excuse to use force to get them.

I'm sure they did welcome you.

UN peace keepers would have been a welcome sight after being raviged by government and rebel factions for the past decade.

There are still a lot of stones moving through London and Amsterdam and onto the American market that once lay in the red soil of SL. It wan't the native demand for resorces that caused the conflict there, it was outside pressure. Puppet govenments sponsered by rival factions.

There are two sides to every coin and I would like to make it clear that I am critiquing Western economic policy here, not just that of the US although the success of the US seems to result in it's dictating a lot of economic policy, even countires like Japan are also a part of this although Japan could hardly be considered as being a traditionally western country.

Even here in Australia we exploit hte East Timorese and Papua New Guineans along with the Indonesians. We send peace keepers into these regions when things get hot too but it doesn't mean that we and our insatiable appetite for resources aren't a large part of the problem.

So is your point that credit is bad and a trap? If that's a case...people need to own up and not use it when not needed.

I have no credit cards...still get fine loans on cars and furniture and everything. I have a great payment history and thus I have had no issues

By the way...not the best way to wake us up...don't start by insulting us

-Kyo

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You will find that there are more of us "awake" than your accounting for. And your going to find that there is a process, a democratic process that must be followed to bring a change. That process is well underway.

It is not easy to uproot a deceptive government that has buried its roots so deep that it will take more than just chopping off the top, we have to dig deep to remove that rotten root.

Rome was not built in a day. And the US government legalized criminal structure was also not built in a day. Thus it will take more than a day to clean out the "rats in the house".



Cheers!!!!

Who says I am trying to insult you?

The post is about exploitation everywhere, from the guy who gets his hand cut off in the Congo to the guy who has to pay 40% tax on his minimum wage job.

The reference to credit was just another example of exploitation, not the main thrust of the post.

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Unfortunately the cancer of this "Legalised criminal structure" as you so eloquently term it has spread to other parts of the world.

(Yes some bits of the world aren't quite America yet)

If this is a transitional period we should be stepping up the pressure and not backing it off.

calling us CNN watching fools and such is what I was getting at

-Kyo