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Gates: Don't test Obama administration

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posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 12:00 AM

Gates: Don't test Obama administration

US Defense Secretary speaks before Persian Gulf leaders in Bahrain, warns terrorists: 'Anyone who thought upcoming months present opportunities to 'test' new administration is sorely mistaken', adds US seeking to change Iran's behavior

In my opinion Gaza is a diversion allowing NATO/USA to reposition them selves in the main oil shipping routes of the Middle East while the world is focused on Gaza and the Obama victory.

It is a diversion similar to the Pirate diversion which provided cover for a build up within the shipping lanes off of the coast of Africa which allows the use of the Suez Canal.

The plight that could bring America to its knees would be a form of a Oil Embargo (or major shipping issues in the MI Persian Gulf).

As we know, container ships are anchored at ports all around the world. Could this be because they suspect that the high seas may soon erupt into chaos? Is this why the bankers are not allowing letters of Credit to be approved as they understand that the high seas have moved into an area of risk which most insurers/bankers consider uncertain?

Risk can no longer be measured as we have world wide conflict on the precipice of our times.

Industry sources said they have never seen rates fall so low. "This is a whole new ball game," said one trader.

The Baltic Dry Index (BDI) which measures freight rates for bulk commodities such as iron ore and grains crashed several months ago, falling 96pc. The BDI – though a useful early-warning index – is highly volatile and exaggerates apparent ups and downs in trade. However, the latest phase of the shipping crisis is different. It has spread to core trade of finished industrial goods, the lifeblood of the world economy.

Trade data from Asia's export tigers has been disastrous over recent weeks, reflecting the collapse in US, UK and European markets.

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"I was there religiously," said Hurtado, who joined a throng of hopefuls every morning at a sprawling open-air hiring yard near the ports. Three or four days of work a week was the norm.

Not anymore.

Early one recent morning, Hurtado, 27, was at the same hiring spot. The workload was light even for the union dockworkers who are always chosen first. For Hurtado, there was "nothing. I haven't worked in a month."

I have been watching certain areas of the world but one that has recently come to back into my field of view is the islands of Abu Musa and Qeshm.

Abu Musa, an island in the Persian Gulf, is claimed by both Iran and the United Arab Emirates (UAE). The island is valued by these two countries for economic, security, and environmental reasons. One significant feature about this island is that it is potentially full of oil reserves. Currently, oil is being extracted from a field close to the shores of Abu Musa. The dispute over the island is unresolved and could ignite an international crisis at some point in the future. In addition to the conflict, there are also environmental concerns that are associated with Abu Musa. If there were to be an oil spill on or around this island it could have grave consequences on the environment and the nearby animal life. Therefore, the dispute over Abu Musa will be examined for its importance in trade, environmental, and security issues.

When Iraq made threatening moves toward Kuwait in October 1994, Iran increased its military presence on Abu Musa. Although, when the crisis subsided, Iranian troops remained on the island. Then in 1995, Iran increased its troops to 4,000 from 700 in just five months and deployed SA-6 surface-to-air missiles, 155- millimeter artillery, and "Seersucker" anti-ship missiles. In addition, Secretary of Defense Perry noted that Iran had deployed chemical weapons in the Gulf.(8) Iran opened an airport on Abu Musa in March 1996 and there are reports that it also plans to build a port.(9)

The UAE has been careful to maintain some contact with Iran because of the large number of Iranian expatriates in the UAE and because of Iran's proximity. The UAE has urged Iran to agree to taking the dispute to the International Court of Justice in The Hague. Iran has responded by stating that its sovereignty over the islands is not negotiable, although it has called for bilateral talks with the UAE to clear up any "misunderstandings

If you look at the point off of UAE this is the area which the islands are situated.


Qeshm (Persian: قشم - pronounced kē´shm is an island situated in the Strait of Hormuz off the south coast of Iran and east of the Persian Gulf (26°50′N 56°0′E / 26.833, 56). Qeshm Island is located a few kilometers off the southern coast of Iran, opposite the port cities of Bandar Abbas and Bandar Khamir. The island, which hosts a 300 square kilometer free zone jurisdiction, is 135 km long, and lies strategically in the Strait of Hormuz, just 60 kilometers from the Omani port of Khosab and about 180 kilometers from the UAE port of Rashia. The island, at its widest point, located near the center of the island, spans 40 kilometers. Similarly, at it narrowest point, the island spans 9.4 kilometers. The island has a surface are of 1491 square kilometers and is 2.5 times the size of Bahrain and 3 times the size of Singapore. Qeshm city, located at the easternmost point of the island is 22 kilometers from Bandar Abbas while the closest point of the island is but two kilometers from the mainland.

Map link

The idea connects the conflicts we now see near the Caspian Basin.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 12:15 AM
If you carefully look at the Pakistan/Afghanistan Theatre, the Kashmir Theatre and the Iraq Theatre we can plainly see that the Caspian Basin is the big prize for the winner.

The country of Georgia ties in the Caspian Basin area as well.

The world's second largest oil reserves are in Turkmenistan and the surrounding regions of the Caspian Basin. Familiarize yourself with this region. In brief: Afghanistan is the bridge between Turkmenistan and Pakistan's Indian Ocean ports. The Taliban denied US oil companies a contract to build an oil and natural gas pipeline across Afghanistan, granting it instead to the Bridas Oil Corp. of Argentina.
The US gov't had plans in place prior to 9/11 for invading Afghanistan, largely to steal the country for their pipeline. The Pentagon is now building US military bases across the country in a path which would allow Chevron, BP, Mobil, etc to be guarded by US troops. Such collusion between government and big business is FASCISM.
You won't find much if anything about this in the mainstream media, but Karl Schwarz, former beltway Repulican of HW Bush and WBush, got sufficiently disgusted with the administrations' covert and disgusting GREED and abandoned the administration. His information is crucial to understanding the groundwork of our massive Middle Eastern military presence.

The Caspian Basin is a depression in Central Asia, it’s actually 28 meters below sea level, at the bottom of which sits the Caspian Sea, the world’s largest endorheic body of water, meaning that it doesn’t empty into another body of water.

Having once been primarily within the bounds of the Soviet Union before it collapsed, the Caspian is now bounded by five countries; Russia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, and Iran. Sitting in a dry, arid, salty region in between the deserts of the Central Asian Steppe, the rocky Caucasus Mountains, and the Iranian Plateau, the Caspian has long been a highway linking three important regions; Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. The area has been ruled by the Greeks, the Persians, the Mongols, The Seljuk Turks, and Soviet Russia and the peoples in the area, though rooted in very old tribes, reflect the mixed character of these cultural influences.

So why is it so important now?

One of the Caspian regions distinguishing traits, historically, is that it has been inextricably linked with oil. Rich with petrochemicals, the area has had petroleum extraction activity since the 9th century AD, when the inhabitants refined surface tar into naphtha, a solvent and light burning fuel. The Russians built the first petrol refinery at Baku, Azerbaijan in 1861, at which time the regions oil fields produced 90% of the world’s oil. It is widely accepted that during WWII, Hitler’s disastrous invasion of Stalingrad was a desperate attempt to gain access to the oilfields of Baku, in order to replenish the Third Reich’s dwindling petrol supplies. This would make the Caspian the target of the world’s first real ‘oil war’ (or perhaps more correctly ‘oil battle’), a seemingly ironic and prescient distinction, as it could possibly be the object of the next as well.

If the Middle East is the world’s oil pump, the Caspian Basin is it’s emergency gas can. The Caspian currently has the largest untapped oil reserves left in the world, though by no means the largest left. However, many of the deposits are still completely un-pumped, and are therefore easily extracted using primary extraction techniques which require very low amounts of energy to bring out of the ground. This means that Caspian oil is cheap oil.

Here is a link to study the geographical position of the 4 theatres mentioned above.

As the players continue to manoeuvre it reminds me a lot of World War two when the Japanese had to open another front with the USA in order to be sure that rich energy resources would be at their disposal.

Eighteen months earlier, President Franklin D. Roosevelt had transferred the United States Fleet to Pearl Harbor as a presumed deterrent to Japanese agression. The Japanese military, deeply engaged in the seemingly endless war it had started against China in mid-1937, badly needed oil and other raw materials. Commercial access to these was gradually curtailed as the conquests continued. In July 1941 the Western powers effectively halted trade with Japan. From then on, as the desperate Japanese schemed to seize the oil and mineral-rich East Indies and Southeast Asia, a Pacific war was virtually inevitable.

I see a few things playing out but the most dangerous would be an open conflict in the Persian Gulf over the various claims of the two islands Abu Musa and Qeshm.

I wonder if this will be part of the looming crisis referred to us by Powell and Biden?

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 12:20 AM

My observations of the Caspian Basin conflicts coupled with rumors of a form of an Persian Gulf shipping problem may allow the US/NATO to want to gain control of the two islands under the guise of fighting for the UAE.

This would force Russia to become involved in the Caspian Basin as well as the Persian Gulf as they would want to maintain control over reserves as the Persian Gulf scenario plays out.

[edit on 19-1-2009 by whiteraven]

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 12:28 AM
Just one question; why is that Americans always think that the world are after them and want to attack them and steal their freedoms?

Answer to the obvious; because many/most Americans are brainwashed by their media to believe that there is a mythical terrorist threat.

Newsflash, the U.S is no where near any of the "alleged" terror factions they claim to be fighting. It would be impossible for anyone to launch a missile or whatnot from the middle east all the way to north America.

And BTW, stop using the 9/11 excuse or justification for the all blood thirsty war the U.S in engaged in. Nobody really knows for sure that 9/11 was done by alleged Islamist hijackers, infact.. if you research the case(and I know this comment will go without notice) you'll find that there is more evidence to the contrary than to support the original story. And NO, I'm not referring you to zeitgeist as 'research'. I mean do your own research.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 12:37 AM
This thread revolves around the idea of certain rich oil reserves, refineries, pipelines and who ends up in control of the prize.

Terrorism is a diversion for oil.

Russia, China and the US all want the control of Persian Gulf Shipping as well as the Caspian Basin.

Read the study reveals the potential conflicts we now see erupting.

The Caspian Sea is the largest land-locked body of water in the world and is surrounded by
Iran, Azerbaijan, Russia, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan – the Caspian basin countries. (See
Maps, Appendix 2) In 2000 the international importance of the Caspian basin was set out in
a report by a bipartisan group of influential Americans entitled “America’s National
.... The most promising new source of world [energy] supplies is the Caspian region,
which appears to contain the largest petroleum reserves discovered since the North
Sea. This geopolitical crossroad, which includes Iran, Russia, and a number of newlyindependent
states struggling with post-Soviet modernization and dangers of Islamic
extremism, demands more attention by American policymakers.1
In addition, separatist disputes and more recently nuclear ambitions have emerged as factors
of pressing significance at that “geopolitical crossroad”. The conjunction of these elements,
it is argued, makes the region susceptible to instability.
The competing interests of the littoral states and the larger international considerations is
evident on the Sea itself, which though traditionally dominated by Russia’s Caspian Flotilla,
was used for joint US-Azerbaijan exercises involving Azerbaijan patrol boats in 2003 and
2004. As one observer put it, “Russia as the major power broker in the Caspian Sea, clearly
sees itself - not the USA - as bearing the security burden. Certainly Iran would prefer a
Caspian dominated by Russia to further US encroachment in the region.”2
Azerbaijan, Russia, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan are all successor states to the Soviet Union
and, together with Iran, have a claim to the hydrocarbon (oil and gas) resources under the sea
bed as well as to their own ‘on-shore’ reserves.
Iran is the only one of the five with access to the Persian Gulf and Arabian Sea ports,
although, since the mid 1990s it has been subject to a US embargo under the Iran and Libya
Sanctions Act, which has hindered its development and integration into the global economy,
and affected its regional political relations.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 02:54 AM
gates is correct, i saw it myself those whom are inclined to senseless war are taking advantage of the change in political power in the usa,between terms and the beggining of a new presidency.
the isrealis chose to attack now as its between terms when the powerstructeres are in fluctuation, not very kind of a so called ally of the usa.

this to me suggests even the bush administration were holding back the isrealis ,or the the bush admin were to afraid of the political backlash resulting from the isreali's senseless behaviour.

expect alot of extemists sects such as those in iran and isreal(not the nations themselves and its people we must remember that) to provoke the new presidency.there fond of bush,he gave them a reason , a cause act in volitile and agressive sects such as hezbollah etc may seek to stoke the flames with obama,they do not want a peaceful administration...they seek to goad the west into acting agressivly , to being the bogey man that consilidates their extreme viewpoint and powerbase.

the same is true on our side , some activly stoke hatred against islam,distort the reality of the situation in order to justify hostilities against islamic nations...its a two way street,both sides are guilty of unwarranted and unfair agression now and histroricly, but both guilty sides only blame the other and ignore thier own culpable actions.

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 07:44 AM
Without spelling it out all together the Gaza conflict acted as a diversion for another action.

I cannot fill in the blanks up until a Persian Gulf and Caspian Basin theatre opens.

Some European scholars believe Hitlers move toward Stalingrad was to secure Caspian Basin Energy reserves. The idea holds water as those who say that Hitler's invasion was the act of self involved maniac in the Russian Front does not stand up to careful investigation.

When Georgia attacked certain disputed regions on the Russian border this gave us an idea where the next step in the gambit will be carried out.

With Gaza now on hold we need to look at what plays took place in this chess game in which winner takes all.

Instead, the Bush administration perpetrated a scam. It used the system it set up to dispense reconstruction aid to both the countries it "liberated," Afghanistan and Iraq, to transfer American taxpayer dollars from the national treasury directly into the pockets of private war profiteers. Think of Halliburton, Bechtel, and Blackwater in Iraq; Louis Berger Group, Bearing Point, and DynCorp International in Afghanistan. They're all in it together. So far, the Bush administration has bamboozled Americans about its shady aid program. Nobody talks about it. Yet the aid scam, which would be a scandal if it weren't so profitable for so many, explains far more than does troop strength about why, today, we are on the verge of watching the whole Afghan enterprise go belly up.

What's worse, there's no reason to expect that things will change significantly on Barack Obama's watch. During the election campaign, he called repeatedly for more troops for "the right war" in Afghanistan (while pledging to draw-down U.S. forces in Iraq), but he has yet to say a significant word about the reconstruction mission. While many aid workers in that country remain full of good intentions, the delivery systems for and uses of U.S. aid have been so thoroughly corrupted that we can only expect more of the same—unless Obama cleans house fast. But given the monumental problems on his plate, how likely is that?

The Jolly Privateers

[edit on 19-1-2009 by whiteraven]

posted on Jan, 19 2009 @ 08:01 AM
Do not forget that the Saudi's/Arabs are not friends with Iran.

UAE, a westernized influence and Saudia Arabia both have agendas influenced via deep Western Ideas. (think Oxford)

These folks have ties with some Iranian thinkers who have taken advantage of the kind of education oil money buys.

This connection and the gambit in play is a winner take all scenario as everybody understands that America is at a crossroads.

I hope and pray President Obama and VP Biden are able to come to terms with however the situation comes to light.

I think everybody can see why a surge is needed in Afghanistan.
(unless your a peacenik as I am.. adopt the ideas of peace)

Note ..if we pulled all of our troops out of the Middle East right now what would take place in the Middle East? My guess would be more war and economic chaos....even without any US involvement. Peace is not on the horizon...anybody else see a different outcome..can anybody justify pulling US/NATO troops out of these areas because if we do I see chaos in the area.

Unless the whole world decides to give up control of these rich energy resources I cannot see peace.

[edit on 19-1-2009 by whiteraven]

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