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Unfortunately, every time there is something up there that is not quickly identified, people want to believe it is extraterrestrial in nature. More often than not, it has an explanation that is down to earth. The idea is to find the truth, even if it is something we do not want to hear. In this case, it is the flares.
Originally posted by kidflash2008
I also find it strange that there are many videos and pictures of the later sighting, but none of the alleged boomerang that appeared earlier.
Unfortunately, every time there is something up there that is not quickly identified, people want to believe it is extraterrestrial in nature.
The idea is to find the truth, even if it is something we do not want to hear. In this case, it is the flares.
No one disputes that flares were dropped, but there were 2 separate events, and people say the first one was a huge boomerang shaped craft. Are you saying there was only one event, the flares?
Originally posted by atsbeliever
Of course he will, he's a skeptic. He has blinkers on, he will refuse to look/read about ANY other event or testimony from that night, he's found the data that satisfys HIS view of the universe, which is a very lonely one. End of story there mate...
Originally posted by converge
Originally posted by atsbeliever
Of course he will, he's a skeptic. He has blinkers on, he will refuse to look/read about ANY other event or testimony from that night, he's found the data that satisfys HIS view of the universe, which is a very lonely one. End of story there mate...
That's not skepticism, what you described is more like pseudoskepticism, but let's the man respond for himself shall we?
Originally posted by Topol-M
The next day, intelligence units at both Luke and Davis-Monthan were abuzz. No one knew what had occurred, other than something physical was in the sky, an intercept was attempted, and there were thousands of eye-witness accounts (many of these being the flares). Orders were apparently given for a flare-drop near Phoenix by a unit returning from the Goldwater range. This was considered highly odd to say the least, as that order was given while the main event was unfolding. These aircraft were likely A-10’s.
Originally posted by observe50
Why has it taken you so long to come forward with this and especially why at this particular time?
[edit on 20-1-2009 by observe50]
Originally posted by converge
Thank you Topol for sharing your account of this event
I really appreciate it because I think this was a legitimate incident and also evidence of a cover-up of some sort, and whatever information we can get hopefully helps us trying to figure out what the hell is going on.
I find this somewhat contradictory though. You say no one knew what had occurred, but someone ordered a flare drop, and judging from the footage the pattern of the flare drop was rather curious to say the least, telling me that someone knew exactly what they were doing.
Could it be that officially no one know what had occurred, but behind the scenes someone did know what had happened? Or perhaps you and people of your rank didn't have access or need to know and that's the story you were given too?
Also, I think it would be really important to figure out who exactly order those flares to be dropped. Do you really have no idea who ordered it?
Just as a side note, you speak of "intelligence units". Are these intelligence units part of any Air Force agency like the AF ISR, AF OSI, or something like that? Or just 'regular' units that each base has? I admittedly know little about this, so my question might not make any sense.
Originally posted by observe50
Why has it taken you so long to come forward with this and especially why at this particular time?
No ill intent just curious?