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posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 08:29 AM
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I was on the phone to a buddy on OZ tonight and he has this strange yet inventive idea that he would like to run with.

Due to his dislike for secret societies and all the encompass, he feels that he should expose those who attend these societies and lodges around Australia.

His Grand plan is photograph people coming and going from lodges and publish their photographs on an internet site , categorized by location and state.

The plan is to stake out lodges from non trespassing position and get as many photographs of the members as possible so that they can be easily identified.

WHY? I asked .. he said that (a) it's a way of breaking down their system and identifying key members from your local community (b) exposing those who operate under secrecy (c) he wants to be a sh$t stir disrupt their veil of secrecy.

What do you think? I think he'll get beat up or have his house set on fire but I think it would be a hell of a laugh and I do like what he stands for .... he hope that people from everywhere will help contribute and submit their photo's

Like JFK said "The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society" ... look where is got him!!





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posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 09:34 AM
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That's a great idea! If any of them go after him he can always claim self defense


He should make it global, I could put up pictures of the masonic lodge in lynn valley (British Columbia)

I don't know the time and day these masons come out of the woodwork to attend their lame clubs though. Probably on a symbolic good luck magick day, as idiotic as it sounds.



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 09:51 AM
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Every time i hear that guy speak.

I cry


what a #up world we live in when honesty gets ur head blow off...

makes me SICK..

S+F



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 09:52 AM
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but my picture is up at my lodge website... it was last time i checked- it isn't secret.
No.671 California



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 10:18 AM
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The Masons are a dying breed. Anytime a "secret" society holds public recruitment drives and gasp, has "nonwhite" members, it's a sign of the end. These guys are as irrelevant as the KKK and the American Communist Party.



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 10:24 AM
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Smells like a witchhunt to me.

It seems quite pointless, as everyone knows who the local masons are anyway. You can sit outside their quite public lodge in your town center, and watch the parade of police, local government officials, and business owners go in and out.

Instead of wasting your time harassing innocent people, why not concentrate on some bigger investigation? One of the big things Masons here are known for is fixing the government bids for work (this is only minority, most Masons are nice people, just a few use their position in this way). Investigate the bidding for gov contracts in your town, even if the Masons aren't involved, theirs usually some collusion between the businesses involved, you could actually discover a real crime, rather than waste time harassing indiscriminately a group of people, of whom 99% are totally law abiding, charitable members of the community.



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 10:26 AM
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[but my picture is up at my lodge website... it was last time i checked- it isn't secret. No.671 California ]

Agreed, the imagery isn't secret- the world is filled with them- even if the Masons didn't create it in the first place- the Eye of Horus, all seeing eye, pyramids, sun globe... in movies, in logos, everywhere!

That's not secret, but their agenda is secret! The meetings are secret, their links and control over society is secret, the only thing that isn't secret is the imagery, the imagery they are rubbing our noses into.



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by secretagent woooman
reply to post by fiorano
 

The Masons are a dying breed. Anytime a "secret" society holds public recruitment drives and gasp, has "nonwhite" members, it's a sign of the end. These guys are as irrelevant as the KKK and the American Communist Party.


You are sadly misinformed. Again masonry is not a secret society. And Freemasonry has been integrated since the 1700's



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 12:37 PM
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It's only in the States Masonry had much of a problem with race.

Anyway, I was wondering when you are going to register for the NWO, OP.

Misinformation, spying and cataloging individuals and removing their right of privacy it seems so many people hold dear. Sweet!
Yet you will justify it 'cause you just don't feel safe unless the Masons are known and accounted for.

As for JFK's speech at the time, it had nothing to do with Secret Societies, the entire spech shows it was directed to the press at the time.



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 12:49 PM
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As a mason, I wholly endorse this. Such a witch hunt and misguided propaganda campaign would do wonders for getting people to join freemasonry, and it would help inform the public that there are some very real and very dangerous anti-masons out there who are seeking to turn back our privacy rights to Pre-WWII Germany.

Go for it!

I normally don't ally myself with the ACLU, but I am sure their lawyers would absolutely *love* this. I'd be willing to contribute and fund raise for the legal defense of the masons you "expose". Please do let us know what the website is.

[edit on 18-1-2009 by LowLevelMason]



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by secretagent woooman
reply to post by fiorano
 

The Masons are a dying breed. Anytime a "secret" society holds public recruitment drives and gasp, has "nonwhite" members, it's a sign of the end. These guys are as irrelevant as the KKK and the American Communist Party.


While freemasonry is undoubtedly irrelevant in the conspiracy theorist list of "groups out to rule the world" list, its not because its dying out. Lodges are thriving and growing like never seen before. I'd love to know this "public recruitment drive" since there is no such thing allowed.

Also, of course it has non-white members, its a fraternity. Race doesn't matter.



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by LowLevelMason
Also, of course it has non-white members, its a fraternity. Race doesn't matter.


Seconded. The sitting Master in my Lodge is Afro-Canadian and at his installation last month, aside from the expected turn-out from our Lodge and others in our district, we had about a half-dozen members from a Prince Hall Lodge in Scarborough whose Lodge we've visited from time to time.

I can only speak for my experiences but accusations by non-Masons of on-going systemic racism just don't hold water. That's like telling people from the States that there'll never, ever be a black presi.......ah never mind.



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 01:19 PM
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To all the misinformed *Snip* on here, Masons are a secret society, it's the reason why my dad could not become a Mason, in the A of G, you cannot be part of a secret society and the Masons are a secret society.

The pastor of the church my parents go to used to be a 33rd or 32nd degree Mason (can't remember exactly what degree it is), he told me that they are a secret society and that many of there practices are of an ancient origin, rooted in satanic symbolism, such as "as is above, so is below" and many others which have there origins with the "Benay Elohim", AKA "The Shining Ones".

I also have a LOT of Masons in my family and they're all pretty much a bunch of rich "holes from a buttocks".

-Lahara



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posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 01:21 PM
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To LowLevelMason.

Although I understand it is frowned upon or forbidden by many masons to recruit, it does happen.



This video is pretty funny to me, it seems to be made by or in the style of the Scientology videos.



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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^^Well that seems to be a problem with your family. masonry has nothing to do with that



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by TheRandom1
To all the misinformed *Snip* on here, Masons are a secret society, it's the reason why my dad could not become a Mason, in the A of G, you cannot be part of a secret society and the Masons are a secret society.


Oh I know, masons are so secret. Our lodge buildings have huge signs announcing meeting times, members publicly announce their membership, and the leaders of lodges with websites have their names, contact information, and biographies up for all to see. Thats secret right there.

I have no idea what the A of G is but they clearly have failed to do their research.


Originally posted by TheRandom1
The pastor of the church my parents go to used to be a 33rd or 32nd degree Mason (can't remember exactly what degree it is), he told me that they are a secret society and that many of there practices are of an ancient origin, rooted in satanic symbolism, such as "as is above, so is below" and many others which have there origins with the "Benay Elohim", AKA "The Shining Ones".


Uh-huh. Do you believe everything your pastor tells you? The only thing satanic about freemasonry is the fervor at which anti-masons bash it. There is no real satanic symbolism in freemasonry.


Originally posted by TheRandom1
I also have a LOT of Masons in my family and they're all pretty much a bunch of rich "holes from a buttocks".


How nice of you to judge all of freemasonry because you have some in your family.

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[edit on 18/1/2009 by Sauron]



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 01:41 PM
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Uh-huh. Do you believe everything your pastor tells you? The only thing satanic about freemasonry is the fervor at which anti-masons bash it. There is no real satanic symbolism in freemasonry.


Yes, there is, and I believe what a former Mason told me because he is a trusted friend, those are very rare in my opinion, he has proved his trustworthiness.

You however pretend that Masons do no wrong ever, but I on the other hand am critical of every group, especially the ones I am associated with.

Masons are some of the best deflectors I've seen, they are great liars.

-Lahara

[edit to add quote so you can't spin what I said]

[edit on 18-1-2009 by TheRandom1]



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by TheRandom1
Yes, there is, and I believe what a former Mason told me because he is a trusted friend, those are very rare in my opinion, he has proved his trustworthiness.


Well I'll trust the fact that I AM a mason and that I have actually done the research and not taken whatever I am told as the truth. You were told lies - and he may have indeed believed them and not known they were lies - but they were lies nonetheless.


Originally posted by TheRandom1
You however pretend that Masons do no wrong ever, but I on the other hand am critical of every group, especially the ones I am associated with.

Masons are some of the best deflectors I've seen, they are great liars.


Thanks for calling millions of people liars after you just explicitly lied and tried to spread misinformation. I have never said masons do no wrong, I've in fact said the exact opposite. You do far more to recruit people for freemasonry against little dictators like you than I could ever do.



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 01:46 PM
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People fail to realize that Freemasons are still humans. We sin just like anyone else, but that does not make the organization a bad thing. EVERYONE screws up from time to time. Can you specifically point out the satanic symbols to me.



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 02:20 PM
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Your friend sounds pathetic.


Originally posted by jpvskyfreak
His Grand plan is photograph people coming and going from lodges and publish their photographs on an internet site, categorized by location and state.

This could be considered harassment. Doesn't Australia have something like a unauthorized photography posting law? In it I believe it includes photographs taken during the act of stalking or harassment which this would clearly be.


Originally posted by jpvskyfreak
WHY? I asked .. he said that (a) it's a way of breaking down their system and identifying key members from your local community (b) exposing those who operate under secrecy (c) he wants to be a sh$t stir disrupt their veil of secrecy.

Well, a) breaking what system? We don't hide where we meet, obviously since he knows where they meet. b) Many don't hide their membership. c) Does he plan on breaking inside? Otherwise he will disrupt nothing since they meet behind closed doors.


Originally posted by jpvskyfreakWhat do you think? I think he'll get beat up or have his house set on fire but I think it would be a hell of a laugh and I do like what he stands for

He may be told to leave or quit harassing. If anything I'd call the cops on him or put a restraining order on him.





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