In Philadelphia This Morning, Obama to Call for "A New Declaration of Independence", page 2
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reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 02:06 PM by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by Ahabstar
reply to
post by redhatty



Feb 17 will do that for quite a number of people; if the numbers are correct, millions are not fully prepared for the digital switch.

Now be sure to thank the gov't for lending a helping hand.


I hear Obama doesn't want this to happen.


reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 02:20 PM by redhatty
reply to post by Ahabstar



What there are actually millions that don't subscribe to cable or microwave tv? No way!

What about the converter box coupons that have been sent to the oh so many households that do use rabbit ears?

But of course, as Obama takes on the Roosevelt fireside chat routine via TV, he wants to be sure everyone can see and hear him, won't he?

Well there's always YouTube


reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 02:25 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by redhatty




Red, my husband is a Vietnam Vet,we are getting older now, what the heck we are old, now he works hard and watches westerns all night, it is an escape,

I on the other hand would like to help some how.



reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 02:33 PM by redhatty
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



sounds like he is saying that the Constitution reflected the flaw of allowing people to be considered property, specifically African people, and that flaw continues to this day.

Last I checked we no longer allow slavery - only the Federal Government does as it relates to the Citizens of this country.

We are all nothing more than chattel, worthless eaters who are only here to work and provide funding for the Federal machine to keep running.

Amazing isn't it? we have a president who thinks the flaws in the thinking of the culture at the time still exist today. I guess Harvard never bothered teaching him that there were many other countries at that time that also condoned slavery. That is was ultimately outlawed, and we now have laws in effect to ensure that no discrimination should be involved in just about anything.

So what flaw is still in effect today?


reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 02:40 PM by Ahabstar
reply to post by redhatty



I have neither cable nor satellite, my over the air reception is so poor that I effectively do not have TV. Feb 17 will just another day for me. Now I do have a 32" LCD that I can watch digital broadcast, it serves as my monitor as I sit in my easy chair and type away on a wireless KB. Quite nice for playing video games and watching DVD's as well.

For the past five years since moving here, I get my news from both the radio (AM local talk) and the internet. For music I use internet radio. Broadband is via 3G card in the laptop by Sprint, which is less expensive than Roadrunner from Time-Warner.

These are luxuries that can be done without should economic factors demand it. But I will always have radio available and can always read books and magazines.

And yes Stormdancer, Obama wants to push back the switch date. He claims so people have more time to convert, personally I feel it is to avoid an angry mob when the TV's go off and people have to turn to their neighbors for socializing. Would hate for angry groups of people to get together and talk without the distraction of who is dancing with which star or whatever passes for entertainment today.

Too bad the Super Bowl is on Feb 1 and not Feb 22 as that could be rather interesting (for social observation purposes, of course)


reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 02:45 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Ahabstar





And yes Stormdancer, Obama wants to push back the switch date. He claims so people have more time to convert, personally I feel it is to avoid an angry mob when the TV's go off and people have to turn to their neighbors for socializing. Would hate for angry groups of people to get together and talk without the distraction of who is dancing with which star or whatever passes for entertainment today.


Not far from what I was thinking.


reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 02:49 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by wheresthetruth






The change I am speaking of is a change in the activity of the people and how they see their nation, their leaders and their country. With so many lacking the will to stand up, this change will not come quickly or quietly, but will be necessary to wake the few by the many and bring with it a storm of change for a nation that is long overdue.


There is no doubt we have been heading in the wrong direction for a long time .

Change is coming but it wont be pretty.

I can forsee a time that we may have little access to forums like these.


reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 02:54 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by dooper





And if he doesn't, and this continues, the states may have to declare their independence once again.



OH MY god, dooper,
Those were my thoughts exactly before I even read the Obama speech, I am a firm believe in synchronicity

[edit on 023131p://bSaturday2009 by Stormdancer777]


reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 03:02 PM by Ahabstar
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



I would agree that the EC is a flaw in that winning only eleven states can produce a victory regardless of the total popular vote. But I also see why the EC needs to remain in place.

I mean could you imagine the outcry should an undesirable candidate to many but yet just happens to be charismatic enough to sway the populace into believing what amounts to little more than campaign promises to be pushed back and forgotten once the election is won and we are left with a rudderless boat, adrift in a morass of reactionary and ineffective solutions to a major problem?

No we need the EC to cast their votes to prevent such a circumstance. We just need them to be free to vote according to best intentions instead of letting the winning party of that state send the electors.

Think that was a dig directly at Obama? Nope, it applies to a great number of presidents.

edit because it takes eleven states, not elven states

[edit on 17-1-2009 by Ahabstar]
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